From: Jim Alexander Date: Sat Feb 3, 2001 3:16 am Subject: Comments on Don's CD's Don Harden wrote: >... Send your reactions as they occur to you. It helps to know what everyone likes. That way, I'll know more about what I should be putting on future CDs. --------------------------------- Well, here's a thought that occurred to me as I was listening to your (my?) copy of LIVE MEN TELL TALES. One of the characters-- Magda-- refers to the entity represented by our friends at World Securities as "Probe". Now we all know from SEARCH 101 class that the corporation was never referred to in that way, by the people who worked there. "Probe Division" I believe, is as close as they got. However, I remember (though the specific instances escape me) that other characters in the episodes have, on occasion, referred to "Probe", as Magda did. I just looked up the line in my script, and it reads: MAGDA: "Bianco is one of their top agents. If he were killed too, Probe would do everything in their power to get ot the bottom of it!" Comments, gents? Is this a discrepancy??? Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Feb 3, 2001 3:27 am Subject: on Live Men Tell Tales From: Dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Feb 3, 2001 3:25 am Subject: on Live Men Tell Tales To: probecontrol@d... In a message dated 2/2/01 10:19:34 PM EST, probecontrol@dynasty.net writes: MAGDA: "Bianco is one of their top agents. If he were killed too, Probe would do everything in their power to get ot the bottom of it!" Comments, gents? Is this a discrepancy??? Jim: As always, an interesting observation. My take on it would be that she hung around Probe agent Peter Kubica quite a bit, then she was dating Bianco. She probably felt comfortable discussing Probe in shorthand with them. Remember the scene where Bianco & Magda met? Bianco tries to be smooth and deceptive by handing her his fake Omega business card. She cuts directly to the chase and tells him, "Of course that's just a cover, you're a Probe agent, aren't you?" Don H. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Feb 3, 2001 7:40 am Subject: Gold Machine & Let Us Prey airport set On 1/30/01 at 2:46pm dmanmetz wrote: <<< ...in act I of "The Gold Machine" I thought that the setting looked familiar when Lockwood comes down the stairs of the airport to meet his Limo driver. These are the same airport stairs that Bianco comes hobbling down to meet Anjanette the "tag" (the very end) of "Let us Prey"... >>> Thanks to Chris for the above. Below are some grabs which help illustrate his point. The stairs look to be the same in both episodes, although the lighting is different and is shot at somewhat of a different angle. I hadn't quite noticed this one before. If anyone has any requests for comparison shots of SEARCH scenes so that they can be compared side by side, send your request to this mailing list. I'll try to find whatever it is. Don H. From: Jim Alexander Date: Sat Feb 3, 2001 8:08 am Subject: SEARCH dubs for listmembers Jim Alexander here. Don Harden and I would like to make sure that we've covered everyone who has requested episode dubs from us. Paul Linfoot, our newest member from the Great Britain will be taken care of post-haste... and we believe that he will make us "current". Anyone else that has requested dubs, and hasn't been responded to, please feel free to contact us. Since I had some Address Book trouble, and since there was also a changeover from eGroups to Yahoo, we'd like to make sure everyone is "up to speed" and "on board". Thanks! Jim-- probecontrol@dynasty.net Don-- dghprobe3@aol.com From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Sun Feb 4, 2001 12:02 am Subject: Angel Tompkins "Hot News" Okay, I usually don't read the stuff, but I was standing in a long line at Wal-Mart, and picked up the latest Nation Enquirer Issue (Hollywood's Secret Sex Club is the cover). While I was thumbing through it, I saw on page 34 & 35 that Angel Tompkins is writing a tell all book on affair with late night talk show host king, Johnny Carson! Apprently, she had an affair with Carson around the time she was doing Search. It even mentions that she did a magazine interview for her new TV series "Search", "she foolishly acknowledges she is seeing Johnny Carson" at that time. That interview caused the break up with Carson. The article later talks about her affair with Henry Kissinger. It also has a present picture of what the actress looks like today. No clue when the book is coming out, but let's hope she has some good stuff to tell us about Search in her book. Chris From: Jim Alexander Date: Sun Feb 4, 2001 12:21 am Subject: Angel Tompkins "Hot News" >... Okay, I usually don't read the stuff, but I was standing in a long line at Wal-Mart, and picked up the latest Nation Enquirer Issue (Hollywood's Secret Sex Club is the cover). While I was thumbing through it, I saw on page 34 & 35 that Angel Tompkins is writing a tell all book on affair with late night talk show host king, Johnny Carson! (snip) No clue when the book is coming out, but let's hope she has some good stuff to tell us about Search in her book. ---------------------------- Very cool news! Thanks Chris! -- Looking forward to it already! How FORTUNATE for us that you happened to be "thumbing through" that publication that you usually don't read!!! ;) Jim Alexander probecontrol@d... From: A Taylor Date: Sun Feb 4, 2001 12:55 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Digest Number 135 Hi all- I just won a copy of the Feb. 1972 issue of PLayboy off of ebay which includes a pictorial of Angel Tompkins. Has anyone else seen this? Besides Johnny Carson, I mean... ;) Anthony From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Feb 6, 2001 6:17 am Subject: Harbison & Vollmer's Building Harbison & Vollmer's Building by Don Harden While we're on the subject of the re-use of SEARCH sets, here is one my brother Tom noticed. The building exteriors that were used for General Harbison's headquarters in "The Packagers" were the same as the ones used for much of Herr Vollmer's bank in "Numbered for Death," although the lighting and angles are different. The pictures on the lower left are from "Packagers" and the ones on the right are from "Numbered." From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Feb 7, 2001 5:21 am Subject: Random Thoughts on "The 24 Carat Hit" Random Thoughts on "The 24 Carat Hit" by Don Harden According to TV GUIDE, "internal problems for SEARCH. A wounded agent is on a vendetta to kill the thugs who kidnapped his daughter and murdered his wife." This was the first of the last eight mid- season pickup episodes. Another Bianco episode in which he gets to barge into several scenes and either threaten people or beat them up. This is a dark and brooding episode with a slow pace until the last act. Ed Bain's distrust of Bianco slows the episode until it looks like he's starting to trust him again. But it's only a ruse as Bain knocks Bianco out after Bianco rescues him from a booby-trapped room. When Bianco is knocked out, he is in the process of pouring himself a drink. For some reason, he holds onto the wine bottle as he falls to the floor. Not much humor in this episode, which detracts from it. One thing that helps is the presence of noted comic actor Wally Cox, but his scene is brief. This episode has a number of good guest stars (such as Nehemiah Persoff, George Murdoch and William Smith) and the plot is muscle bound. It just takes awhile for it to flex and unfold. Plus, we've already seen this sort of thing on other police/detective shows. Bianco ends up saving Ed and his daughter, but I suspect the audience got weary toward the end. By this point in the series, "Search" appeared to be moving toward doing regular crime and gangster stories. I mean, such stories have their place, but they were clearly moving away from the high tech emphasis of the earlier "Search" episodes. One reason for this was probably due to the fact that Robert Justman left the show at the midseason point to be replaced by Anthony Spinner, who earlier worked with "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." But this makes things even stranger. Spinner's "U.N.C.L.E" show was lively and fun while his "Search" episodes were rather standard and drab. But another more likely reason for the emphasis in mobster stories was the highly successful release of the movie "The Godfather" in 1972. (This episode also features Lenny Montana, who appeared in "Godfather.") Then again, as Jay Leno would say, I might be way outta line with all this. "Search" started off as a sort of high tech fun tribute to James Bond and Dick Tracy and ended as a somewhat lower tech but rather standard detective show. Hopefully we will one day know for sure why these changes were made. After all, it has been said that the big race in Hollywood is to see who is the first to be second. ========================================================== Previous reviews by Don Harden: "Probe/Search" pilot movie http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/114 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/120 "The Murrow Disappearance" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/306 "The Gold Machine" (Jim's audio tape) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/302 "Moonrock" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/385 "One of Our Probes is Missing" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/365 "Flight to Nowhere" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/115 "Suffer My Child" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/153 From: Date: Mon Feb 12, 2001 5:45 pm Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /ob.JPG Uploaded by : ataylor@m... Description : Hugh O'Brien publicity photo I have never seen. From ebay. You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/ob.JPG To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, ataylor@m... From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Feb 13, 2001 2:49 am Subject: Scanner vital signs technology--today! New Scientist magazine has an article on an interesting aspect of cellphones which relates to the technology of the scanner as shown on SEARCH. It seems that the technology of reading vital signs at a distance is with us today, although it would need some fine tuning to apply it to cellphones. ================================================== NEW SCIENTIST Tip Sheet for Feb 10, 2001 This week sees the start of a brand new 4-page section in the magazine: FRONTIERS - Emerging Technologies: CALLS FROM THE HEART Cellphone signals could tell rescue workers vital information about the health of victims trapped inside collapsed buildings. US Scientists have discovered that cellphones can broadcast information about your heartbeat and breathing rate - just by dialling your phone. (Page 20) http://www.newswise.com/articles/2001/2/10FEB.NSC.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mobile monitor - Cellphone signals can monitor the state of your health Exclusive from New Scientist magazine 1900 GMT, 7 February 2001 Nicola Jones The signal from your cellphone reveals your pulse and breathing rate, according to a remarkable discovery at Bell Labs in New Jersey. This occurs even without you answering your phone, meaning survivors of earthquakes and other disasters could be identified. The Bell Labs engineers, led by husband-and-wife team Victor Lubecke and Olga Boric-Lubecke, noticed that some of the microwaves transmitted by a cellphone's antenna bounce back to the phone from the chest, heart and lungs of the person using it. Because those organs are moving, the frequency of the reflected radiationis Doppler shifted by a tiny amount. If the lung is expanding, theradiation bouncing off it is pushed closer together, slightly raising its frequency. A contracting lung lowers the frequency. The variation is tiny: just one hertz in a billion. Bell Labs - owned by Lucent Technologies - now plans to modify the mobile phone with a circuit that detects the Doppler shift in the reflected signal picked up by its antenna. The phone then sends this information on to the base station, where further signal processing extracts the user's vital signs. "We're talking about very low-frequency signals. They're easy to separate from a voice," says Lubecke. To pick up the reflected signals, the cellphone has to be held steady for a few seconds, says Lubecke. Which is just what will happen if its owner is trapped or unconscious. Doctors could also use the Bell Labs technology routinely to monitor your heart or breathing, just by phoning your mobile. Lubecke has been working with James Lin from the University of Illinois in Chicago to test his ideas. The researchers used a radio with similar frequency and power to a typical mobile phone to demonstrate the effect in their lab. Now they are building a prototype detector. Interference pattern Today's cellphone networks treat the interference information as unwanted noise and discard it. For the new system to work, the network will have to be modified to retain and interpret the signals, says Lubecke. This could be as simple as a software change. The phone must be switched on, but you don't have to answer it for the system to work. Just making it ring generates enough of a signal to allow the heart and lung data to be piggybacked onto the signal that tells the caller your phone is ringing. Lubecke says chest movement is easiest to detect, along with heart rate. Later, he hopes to be able to tease out information about the strength of heartbeats, too. Other experts say the technology faces major challenges. Alan Preece, who investigates mobile phone health effects at the University of Bristol, says that the heartbeat signal would be so much weaker than the main signal that it risks being swamped. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Feb 13, 2001 3:28 am Subject: Angel Tompkins celebrity photo online The Celebrity Pictures website carries a photo of Angel Tompkins which can be accessed via the link below. (For the edification of Yahoo and associates, this is a G-rated portrait type shot.) http://www.celebritypictures.com/Pictures/AngelTompkins/angel1.jpg (If the above link is not clickable, just left click as you highlight it. Then right click and select "copy." Then "paste" it into your browser window and click your browser. Newbies will appreciate this tip. It took me a little practice when I first started going online.) To search from their home page, it is: http://www.celebritypictures.com From: A Taylor Date: Tue Feb 13, 2001 10:58 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Digest Number 139 probe_control@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:49:16 EST > From: dghprobe3@a... > Subject: Scanner vital signs technology--today! > > New Scientist magazine has an article on an interesting aspect of cellphones > which relates to the technology of the scanner as shown on SEARCH. It seems > that the technology of reading vital signs at a distance is with us today, > although it would need some fine tuning to apply it to cellphones. > Hmmm... so my post about applying SEARCH technology to investigations from a month or two ago becomes even more relevent. Thanks for posting this Don. AT From: wilsomark@w... Date: Wed Feb 14, 2001 4:38 pm Subject: Search Tapes Wow! Never did I expect to see a group discussing Search/Probe...one of my favorite shows of all time! I would love to purchase tapes of the show, who can help? Also, I have been hunting for the Theme song on the web...anyone have that in mpg3 or wav format? Thanks! From: "Joseuph Christopher" Date: Thu Feb 15, 2001 2:08 am Subject: Search/Probe Episodes Hello everyone, If anyone is willing to trade or sell the episodes of search or probe starring Tony Franciosa, please let me know. My mother-in-law is a fan of his, and collects his stuff. Thanks for reading this post:*) brian From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Feb 15, 2001 4:53 am Subject: Re: Search Tapes (correct soundamerica link) --- In probe_control@y..., wilsomark@w... wrote: > Wow! Never did I expect to see a group discussing Search/Probe... > one of my favorite shows of all time! I would love to purchase > tapes of the show, who can help? Also, I have been hunting for the > Theme song on the web...anyone have that in mpg3 or wav format? =============================================== Hi wilsomark: Don Harden with the SEARCH Yahoo Group. There is a place on the web that has some SEARCH theme music. Go to: http://soundamerica.com Hit the "THEMES" button to the left, then find the "Television" category. Find the shows named "S" and scroll down till you find SEARCH. There will be four different files there. The first will be opening credits, then a closing credits, then two SEARCH network ID stingers. (If you go down farther than that, you'll get into "Search for Tomorrow" theme music.) Soundamerica has announced that they will be shutting down soon, so everyone get your WAV files while you can. If John (actingman) or others in the group has some MP3 files, let us know how we can get them. Also, if you would be interested, John and I have audio CD-R's of the five or six SEARCH episodes we don't have on video. These are from tapes I made in 1972-73 when NBC ran them! The sound is actually quite good and are enjoyable on their own level not unlike an audiobook. Jim Alexander and I have the best generation video copies of about 17 of the episodes. Usually folks get Jim's batch first since he has the earlier episodes. They get my batch second because I have most of the later episodes. Let us know which episodes you want. Welcome to the group! Thanks and take care! (Then again, once you get the videos, you can make your own WAV files of the SEARCH theme.) From: "Mark Wilson" Date: Thu Feb 15, 2001 9:27 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: Search Tapes (correct soundamerica link) Thanks! I found the site, downloaded the wav files and heard something I haven't heard since 1972 or 3. AWESOME! I'd like to purchase all the episodes! --Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:53 PM Subject: [probe_control] Re: Search Tapes (correct soundamerica link) > --- In probe_control@y..., wilsomark@w... wrote: > > Wow! Never did I expect to see a group discussing Search/Probe... > > one of my favorite shows of all time! I would love to purchase > > tapes of the show, who can help? Also, I have been hunting for the > > Theme song on the web...anyone have that in mpg3 or wav format? > =============================================== > > Hi wilsomark: Don Harden with the SEARCH Yahoo Group. There is a > place on the web that has some SEARCH theme music. Go to: > > http://soundamerica.com > > Hit the "THEMES" button to the left, then find the "Television" > category. Find the shows named "S" and scroll down till you find > SEARCH. There will be four different files there. The first will be > opening credits, then a closing credits, then two SEARCH network ID > stingers. (If you go down farther than that, you'll get into "Search > for Tomorrow" theme music.) > > Soundamerica has announced that they will be shutting down soon, so > everyone get your WAV files while you can. > > If John (actingman) or others in the group has some MP3 files, let us > know how we can get them. > > Also, if you would be interested, John and I have audio CD-R's of the > five or six SEARCH episodes we don't have on video. These are from > tapes I made in 1972-73 when NBC ran them! The sound is actually > quite good and are enjoyable on their own level not unlike an > audiobook. > > Jim Alexander and I have the best generation video copies of about 17 > of the episodes. Usually folks get Jim's batch first since he has > the earlier episodes. They get my batch second because I have most > of the later episodes. Let us know which episodes you want. Welcome > to the group! Thanks and take care! > > (Then again, once you get the videos, you can make your own WAV files > of the SEARCH theme.) From: actingman@i... Date: Thu Feb 15, 2001 6:39 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: Search Tapes (correct soundamerica link) So you folks know...the Search themes on Soundamerica are ones that I made from our copies of Let Us Prey...which were perfect for this task, since they are complete NBC prints with no voice-overs on the end, and they have the two station break bumpers. So Soundamerica has the opening theme, the two bumpers, and the closing theme. At 01:27 PM 2/15/01 -0800, you wrote: >Thanks! I found the site, downloaded the wav files and heard something I >haven't heard since 1972 or 3. AWESOME! > >I'd like to purchase all the episodes! > >--Mark > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:53 PM >Subject: [probe_control] Re: Search Tapes (correct soundamerica link) From: Bryan Date: Thu Feb 15, 2001 6:55 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: Search Tapes (correct soundamerica link) I will commit to getting the theme and other Search sounds on the website within the next week. > > So you folks know...the Search themes on Soundamerica are ones that I made > from our copies of Let Us Prey...which were perfect for this task, since > they are complete NBC prints with no voice-overs on the end, and they have > the two station break bumpers. > > So Soundamerica has the opening theme, the two bumpers, and the closing theme. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Feb 17, 2001 6:15 pm Subject: Join Burgess Meredith (1950 ad) Here's something a little different. When we watch the 1972 SEARCH episodes, we are looking back some 29 years. Well, 22 years before that, TIME Magazine ran an ad featuring a young Burgess Meredith (see attachment below). From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Feb 18, 2001 2:46 am Subject: Re: Join Burgess Meredith (1950 ad) Hi folks, Don again. Jim Alexander asked me where I found the 1950 Burgess Meredith ad. I bought one of those bound volumes of TIME Magazine on eBay. It's a library discard full of issues from 1950. I was looking for something else in them and lo and behold, there appears this ad featuring a young Cam. What's also interesting is that this would have been how Cam looked during the time of the Korean War, as indicated by Ralph Byron in "Moment of Madness." Toward the end of that episode, there is actually a photo of a young Cam with his unit in Korea seen briefly in Probe Control. That may very likely have been from Burgess Meredith's private collection of photos from his military service. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Mon Feb 19, 2001 4:10 am Subject: Warner Bros Studio Tours Hi folks: Don again. In the course of looking up other things, I found a webpage devoted to Warner Brothers (the studio which produced SEARCH) and their VIP tours: http://www.seeing-stars.com/StudioTours/WarnerBrosTour.shtml There are a lot of photos along with a fairly lengthy text. SEARCH is not mentioned, of course, but there is a lot of other history described. If anyone on the mailing list is planning a trip to Los Angeles in the near future, this tour might be worth considering. There is another page related to this one at: http://www.seeing-stars.com/Studios/WarnerBrosStudios.shtml One of the items mentioned on this page is the following: "For a number of years, Warners shared their Burbank Studios with Columbia Pictures. But Columbia (now part of Sony Pictures) has now moved out of Burbank, and into the old M-G-M Studios in Culver City, leaving Warner Bros as sole owner of the Burbank lot." The item about Warners sharing their Burbank Studios with Columbia squares with what SEARCH writer Judy Burns mentioned about her episode ("The Bullet") being filmed at Columbia Ranch. So far I haven't found anything concerning the use of "The Partridge Family" house and neighborhood in "Countdown to Panic," but I'll keep trying. :-) From: "Dynasty Online Amy Alexander" Date: Tue Feb 20, 2001 5:11 am Subject: Entire Search run from Stephen? Don't believe so... Jeff Sage wrote: >i think i saw that a guy named stephen russo is selling the entire series. >you can write to him at: stephen russo > p.o. box 150 > revere branch > boston, ma > 02151-0001 >do me a favor. if you order the tapes let me know what the quality is >like. i'm trying to find my updated catelog. because i think the old >e-mail address on the catelog i'm looking at is no longer valid. but you >can try that too. it is videmail@webtv.net >hope this helps. let me know. ----------------------------- and then actingman responded: Let's all write to him...especially you Jim. He might remember you. John ---------------------------- Heh-heh. Not sure whether John's being serious or not, but... 1) I am in semi-constant contact with Russo, and have been for, I guess, maybe 15 years. As a matter of fact, I got a box of about 25 tapes in from him just last week. 2) As far as I know, Stephen does NOT have the "entire" run of SEARCH. The Pilot copy he offers came from me, and he only has SEARCH in his catalogue because I requested that he get them-- a few months after I did (and this was many, many years ago), he got some episodes from "his Australian source", and has offered those episodes ever in his catalogue ever since. Most of the SEARCH episodes I have in my collection were copies from Stephen. I will be more than happy to check with Stephen just to make sure that he has NOT gotten any new SEARCH episodes in in the meantime (and forgotten to tell me about them). As a matter of fact, I wrote him about a different matter about 2 days ago, and have not yet heard back from him. I say "semi-constant contact" above because Stephen usually takes about 6 months (or longer) to complete a video transaction (but DOES always come through), and averages one response for every three e-mails. On the other hand, his video offerings are not only of (usually) superior quality-- he has some dag-gone RARE stuff! Stephen's correct e-mail address is: Videmail@webtv.net Again-- I'll write to him and check to see if there are any "new" SEARCH additions, but I expect the answer to be "no" (though no one wishes he offered all the episodes more than me!) :) Jim probecontrol@dynasty.net From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Feb 20, 2001 5:51 pm Subject: How we might find more SEARCH episodes In a message 2/20/01 12:15:31 AM EST, probecontrol@dynasty.net writes: Jeff Sage wrote: >i think i saw that a guy named stephen russo is selling the entire series. Hi folks, Don again. The key to the above is "I THINK I SAW..." That's how these dad-blamed rumors git started nowadays, as Walter Brennan would say. At present, WE offer more episodes than Stephen Russo. If you include the audio CDs, we do indeed have "the entire series." To shake out the last five or six episodes on video, we may have to put want ads in one of the Armed Forces-type newspapers asking that anyone who videotaped SEARCH off the Armed Forces Network or FEN-Misawa during the 70's or 80's get in touch with us. Or--try to find similar-type mailing lists online and make posts there. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Feb 21, 2001 2:05 am Subject: The Golden Age of Surveillance Hi folks: As we watch the SEARCH episodes, we marvel at the technological possibilities presented in the fictional adventures of Probe. However, if Probe Control really existed in our present-day world as part of a private corporation like World Securities, would it be constantly besieged and/or finally destroyed by endless privacy lawsuits? The CBS News website explored this aspect of modern-day surveillance in an article at this link: http://www.cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,272897-412,00.shtml (Because their links don't last long and because this subject impinges on a key aspect of the SEARCH format, the article appears below.) NEW YORK, Feb. 18, 2001 It's increasingly true that Big Brother may indeed be watching you, for a variety of reasons. (CBS) The debate over ever-more sophisticated ways of snooping on the public at home, at work, and at play is beginning to move onto the desks of lawyers and lawmakers. The U.S. Supreme Court is to hear this week a case on whether police violated the constitutional rights of an Oregon man who was arrested after authorities using heat-detection equipment to secretly monitor his house found the pattern that led them to believe he was growing marijuana indoors. Lawmakers are also feeling the heat, from a new group called the Privacy Coalition, which is an alliance of groups from all over the political spectrum, from the American Civil Liberties Union and the Electronic Privacy Information Center to the United Auto Workers union and the conservative group Eagle Forum. The Coalition is challenging state and national lawmakers to sign a pledge to work to restrict surveillance technologies such as those used for locational tracking, video surveillance, electronic profiling, and workplace monitoring and work to promote privacy-enhancing technologies that limit the collection of personal information. In most cases, that would mean new laws, and even some of the minds behind the new "search, watch and identify" technologies agree that some legal protections might be in order. At least 19 bills seeking to address privacy issues have been introduced in the new Congress, at least 74 privacy bills are under consideration by state lawmakers in California, New York, Pennsylvania and Texas, and privacy issues are being studied by a number of government agencies. Much of the controversy has focused on biometrics - the science of using physical measurements to identify individuals - such as the Facefinder video surveillance tool tested at this year's Super Bowl in Tampa. The technology is based on the theory that every person's face is a slight spatial deviation on 128 facial types, each of which is represented in a numerical code that can be quickly compared with the faces in a database of thousands. Law enforcement officials argue that the comparison of the surveillance photos taken of the 100,000 fans at the Super Bowl to mugshots on file was no more intrusive than the routine video surveillance Americans encounter each day in stores, banks, office buildings and apartment buildings. Critics disagree, saying the biometric face-recognition system essentially puts everyone in a police lineup. "When the government does it, they ought to be doing it under the basis of reasonable suspicion that some crime is taking place," argues ACLU associate director Barry Steinhardt, in an interview with CBS News Correspondent John Roberts. Bob Buckhorn, Tampa City Councilman, says they did have a good reason. He says the Super Bowl clearly was "an easy target for somebody, if they were inclined to commit a terrorist act. I think that supercedes the arguments the ACLU has made." Advocates of biometrics also argue that its technology is actually less invasive than others used by governments and law enforcement, because there is no need to provide vast amounts of financial and other personal data. "With our system, we do a quick match, which lasts about a second, and then it's (the data) is completely dropped," explains Tom Colatosti, of Viisage Technology, the maker of the biometric surveillance system used at the Super Bowl. "We think it's very passive... It's certainly less intrusive than going to an airport and having someone check your luggage." Facefinder was developed by Viisage in partnership with Raytheon Co. and Graphco Technologies. Graphco's vice president for marketing, Barry Hodge, acknowledges that there is a need for caution. "There needs to be a really open, positive public forum... as to what extent we as individuals are willing to compromise our personal privacy for public safety," says Hodge. "It's like any other tool, some of which are very, very positive and some of which could be very damaging if misused." Biometric systems are now being tested at airports and are being studied for use on driver's licenses and government employee ID cards, on the theory that they would be less prone to fraud. It's also been suggested that they should be used at the polls, to prevent the voter irregularities that made so many headlines this past fall. In Yemen, Biometric ID cards using fingerprint templates are now being phased in, with some 3,000 cards issued last fall, and the expectation of millions of cards being in use within the next few years. While law enforcement use of video scrutiny is controversial, private industry has been using it for years. One such use is the network of 700 cameras used to search for suspicious characters at the Trump Marina Casino in Atlantic City, zooming in on individual faces and then comparing them to pictures of specific individuals already on file. "This system can scan about 10 thousand images in about 1.5 seconds," says Charles Guenther, the casino's director of surveillance. "We think the technology is here and it's here to stay. It's only going to get better." Other private industry uses of biometrics include scans of the iris for personal identification and a plan by BMW to use fingerprint sensor technology as a security lock in addition to car keys. The fingerprint sensor would also be able to deliver the driver's preferences on things such as seat height, mirror adjustments, and even choice of radio station. From: "Dynasty Online Amy Alexander" Date: Wed Feb 21, 2001 6:36 pm Subject: All the SEARCH episodes from Stephen Russo? Gentlemen-- Here is the message I received from Stephen Russo after I asked him about any new SEARCH acquisitions.. ------------- >... No, no new SEARCH episodes- I don't know where anyone got the idea I have them all- at this point I have half the series (12 shows/6 volumes) and you have all I have. Feel free to correct this on the mailing list. :) I beleive I have the most arround,but not all. Best, Steve ------------ So there you have it. We have the largest archive of episodes available. ;) Thanks! Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: "Mark Speck" Date: Thu Feb 22, 2001 4:02 am Subject: Re: How We Might Find More Search Episodes Hi Don! Have you (or has anyone else) tried these avenues: TVGALORE@a... The guy's name is Sal Mauriello--he doesn't have a catalog. Just write him and tell him what you want. I wrote him regarding another series and haven't heard from him yet, though. raysfilms@a... Just like the one above--e-mail him with what you want, and he'll respond. I learned about both of these guys from the Mannix group. http://www.videoaddicts.com Click on "your wants" and post what you want. This list will close on March 5, sadly. OldTVShowsCollecting@yahoogroups.com I've yet to post for anything I want here, but it may be worth a shot. These are just a few suggestions. Hope they help. Best, Mark From: "Mark Wilson" Date: Thu Feb 22, 2001 7:10 am Subject: How We Might Find More Search Episodes Who actually still owns the rights to Probe and Search, NBC? --Mark From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Feb 22, 2001 4:50 am Subject: raysfilms only has 'Let Us Prey' Hi Mark Speck: Don Harden here and thanks for the list of video seekers and suppliers. Of the four you mentioned: > TVGALORE@a... > raysfilms@a... > http://www.videoaddicts.com > OldTVShowsCollecting@y... I have been in touch with raysfilms (Ray Elliott) and all he has is one SEARCH episode. It happens to be the 16mm transfer of "Let Us Prey" with original network commercials, which is also available in varying quality from other sources. I asked Ray where the original tape came from and if he knew who owned the 16mm print. He had no idea. If you want to order that one from Ray, it will cost you $15 plus shipping. However, you can get a dub of it from me along with another episode of your choice for only $8 plus shipping. Now which is the better deal? I suppose we can try the other three sources that you mentioned. If it flushes out just one more episode, or higher quality than what we have at present, it will be worth it. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Feb 22, 2001 5:12 am Subject: Re: How We Might Find More Search Episodes --- In probe_control@y..., "Mark Wilson" wrote: > Who actually still owns the rights to Probe and Search, NBC? > --Mark Hi Mark Wilson: Don again and the above is a GREAT question. The Nov. 25, 1972 TV Guide article (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/245) says that Hugh O'Brian was "part-owner of the show (with Warner Bros. and producer Leslie Stevens)." One wrinkle with all of this is that the pro tape of the "PROBE" pilot movie was released by an outfit called "Unicorn Video." However, we have had trouble finding an address for that company. I notice, though, that the fonts and general layout of the Unicorn Video packaging strongly resembles the font and layout of the regular Warner Home Video packaging. What's also interesting is that "PROBE" is indeed syndicated in the U.S. as part of a package of other Warner Bros. movies, only it's renamed "SEARCH." It would seem that if the pilot is syndicated, then why not the series? There doesn't seem to be a rights problem with the pilot. Leslie Stevens passed on during 1998, so I guess his rights to the series are with his estate. That leaves Hugh O'Brian and Warner Bros. Would it take a Hollywood lawyer to research the rights situation? For years we were told that a "Lost in Space" movie would be impossible because there were "too many co-owners" of that series. Yet, out of the blue, a major movie was finally released. And for a series with "too many co-owners", it sure got syndicated worldwide easily enough. The last we heard from Warner Bros. was that SEARCH was "for export only," that is, to be aired overseas. It is frustrating for us to see other one season series like "Kolchak," "Time Tunnel," "The Prisoner," "Battlestar Galactica" and others run on cable and gain large cult followings. SEARCH should always have been right there with these other shows. From: Linfoot@b... Date: Fri Feb 23, 2001 11:19 pm Subject: Re Search for export Hi everyone ! Don`s last post where he mentions that Search is for "export only" had me wondering and perhaps if anyone out there with an insight into how TV companies operate could advise ? 1. Warner Bros. sends the series film (or tapes ?) to the TV networks around the World. Question: Is this like a video rental, show and return, or did they buy them to, haha, re-run in the future ? 2. If they bought them, then there is a high probability that they are still laid around in the networks film/tape library. 3. It would be interesting to know how many complete sets of search exist, I assume Warner Bros. has a master set somewhere in it`s archive and there must be some other transmission copies around the World. How we get to them is another matter of course and as discussed, copyright would be the biggest hurdle, Don says that Hugh O`Brian is a co-owner, has anyone thought of contacting him or his agent to get some comments or feedback on his position ? Maybe someone wants to join him on his trip to Europe this Summer (see a recent pic of him and info at www.hoby.org/inttrip/) and asking him personally ?!! I have tried unsuccessfully in the UK to get Search re-run and I could not even get confirmation that they still hold the series, just a letter saying that "all requests for repeats of shows were taken into consideration" and that they would not comment on individual shows. Here are some other links to browse; Hugh with a beard - http://members.citynet.net/meadows/pics.html Hugh bio mentioning Search - www.mnc.net/hugh.html Tony Franciosa bio mentioning Search - http://members.aol.com/maxwelllimited/articles/tf_wp.html Cheers, Paul From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Feb 24, 2001 4:25 am Subject: Unicorn Video & questions Hi gang: Don once more. Thanks to Paul and Mark Wilson and Mark Speck and everyone else for their comments on our attempts to find the rest of the SEARCH episodes and/or better quality of what we have currently. Using anywho.com, I found an address for Unicorn Video, the folks who distribute the home video of the "Probe" pilot movie. Bryan Durk said he would see if he could contact someone there. If Unicorn Video has the rights to distribute tapes of the pilot movie, it would seem logical that they could obtain rights to the rest of the series, or at least a collection of selected episodes. Someone at Unicorn could also hopefully do some checking for us in regard to the question of why SEARCH was relegated to the "for export only" category by Warner Bros. If they absolutely cannot get the rights to distribute the series on video, could they check to see which countries are running the SEARCH series at present? That would be another way to try to get the rest of the episodes and/or better quality of what we already have. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Feb 24, 2001 4:56 am Subject: Jack Ging in 'Countdown to Panic' In a previous post, Mark Speck mentioned that Jackie Patterson was in touch with actor Jack Ging, who played Hall in "Countdown to Panic," and that she was very interested in getting a copy of the episode. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/413 I sent the tape to her and she will be forwarding it to Mr. Ging soon. Jim Alexander suggested that we should try to get Mr. Ging's recollections of working on SEARCH. Jackie told me she would do her best in that department. She warned, though, not to expect too much as Ging was a very busy actor during those days and the work tends to blur over time. In the meantime, I put together a set of video grabs of Ging's appearance in SEARCH (reprinted below) and emailed it to Jackie for her to use in any way she wishes. Hopefully it can lead to more links to http://probecontrol.com and/or this mailing list. If anyone knows of other SEARCH guest stars that have webpages, I could work up a set of similar grabs and send it to the interested people. --------------------------------------------------- > > >Mark Speck wrote: > > > Hey Guys! > > > > Is it possible for someone who's not in our group to order Search episodes? > > The reason why I'm asking is this: Jackie Patterson, an acquaintance of mine > > from the Mannix and TV Westerns lists, is in touch with Jack Ging and > > tracking down all of Mr. Ging's TV appearances for him--she's very > > interested in acquiring a copy of "Countdown to Panic". > > Please let me know if this is possible. Thank you! > > > > Best, > > > > Mark From: "Dynasty Online Amy Alexander" Date: Sat Feb 24, 2001 6:54 am Subject: Search pilot (vs. series) rights Don sez: >... If Unicorn Video has the rights to distribute tapes of the pilot movie, it would seem logical that they could obtain rights to the rest of the series, or at least a collection of selected episodes. ----------------------------------- True. But it's ALSO quite possible that the TV Movie was made available in a completely different syndication package, in contrast to the series. It may be a completely different deal... rights-wise and re-run-wise... Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Feb 25, 2001 4:22 am Subject: Australia's Network 10 and AFN --- In probe_control@y..., Linfoot@b... wrote: > > Don`s last post where he mentions that Search is for "export > only" had me wondering... > ...If they bought them, then there is a high probability that > they are still laid around in the networks film/tape library. ======================================================== Hi Paul: You brought up a good point there. All I can add is that John and Bryan checked with Network 10 in Sydney, Australia a while back and were told that their records only go back some 10 years or so. They ran SEARCH back in 1982--that's how old the Australia tapes are. They have no plans to air the series again. I contacted Armed Forces Network sometime last year and they said they had no materials on SEARCH and that they had no plans to air it anytime in the future. From: actingman@i... Date: Sun Feb 25, 2001 4:46 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re Search for export I know back in the days of distribution on film, stations were able to purchase copies of the episodes and open ended rights to run the series (a tv station I interned at once in 1981 owned complete libraries of I Dream Of Jeannie and Gilligan's Island. Every other show they ran they got the films or tapes in the mail, and as soon as they ran them, they sent them on to the next station as they were instructed to do.) It's too expensive for a station to keep copies of everything if they don't have the rights to it, or if they aren't going to be running the program again (assuming they aren't like us and want to build up their personal libraries.) There is always the possibility that forgotten copies are sitting somewhere, besides in the Warner's vault. We need to get in contact with Warner's distribution again and see if we can get someone sympathetic to look up the show and see if there is any indicatiion why it was for export only. Or if someone wants to try and make contact with Mr. O'Brien. At 11:19 PM 2/23/2001 +0000, you wrote: > Hi everyone ! > > Don`s last post where he mentions that Search is for "export only" >had me wondering and perhaps if anyone out there with an insight into >how TV companies operate could advise ? > 1. Warner Bros. sends the series film (or tapes ?) to the TV >networks around the World. > Question: Is this like a video rental, show and return, or did they >buy them to, haha, re-run in the future ? > 2. If they bought them, then there is a high probability that they >are still laid around in the networks film/tape library. > 3. It would be interesting to know how many complete sets of >search exist, I assume Warner Bros. has a master set somewhere in >it`s archive and there must be some other transmission copies around >the World. How we get to them is another matter of course and as >discussed, copyright would be the biggest hurdle, Don says that Hugh >O`Brian is a co-owner, has anyone thought of contacting him or his >agent to get some comments or feedback on his position ? Maybe >someone wants to join him on his trip to Europe this Summer (see a >recent pic of him and info at www.hoby.org/inttrip/) and asking him >personally ?!! >I have tried unsuccessfully in the UK to get Search re-run and I >could not even get confirmation that they still hold the series, just >a letter saying that "all requests for repeats of shows were taken >into consideration" and that they would not comment on individual >shows. > Here are some other links to browse; > > Hugh with a beard - http://members.citynet.net/meadows/pics.html > > Hugh bio mentioning Search - www.mnc.net/hugh.html > > Tony Franciosa bio mentioning Search - > http://members.aol.com/maxwelllimited/articles/tf_wp.html > > Cheers, > > Paul From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun Feb 25, 2001 10:47 pm Subject: New poll for probe_control Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the probe_control group: This is more of a fun question: Of the SEARCH episodes we have on video, who is your favorite guest Probe agent? o David Pelham (Edward Mulhare - "Iceman") o Stephanie Burnside (Mary Frann - "Iceman") o Andre Gerard (Edward Bell - "Iceman") o Arnold Hiller (unknown - "Short Circuit") o Ed Bain (Dane Clark - "24 Carat Hit") o Trudi Hauser (Lauri Peters - "Numbered") o Howard Baker (George Kramer - "Goddess") To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/polls Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Feb 25, 2001 11:06 pm Subject: Suffer My Child--credit error "Suffer My Child" credit error by Don Harden Someone pointed this out earlier. In the opening credits of "Suffer My Child," actor Dabney Coleman (who played Elliot Desmond) was misidentified with the wrong photo insert. His name appears correctly, but the picture insert is that of actress Donna Baccala, who played Lynn Wheatley, according to TV Guide. Dabney Coleman, of course, became more well known after his SEARCH episode aired. His own later series were "Buffalo Bill" and "Slap Maxwell." (Attachment photo lower right.) I hope these links will work. His imbd.com database page is at: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Coleman,+Dabney Donna Baccala's imbd page is at: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Baccala,+Donna The other actor shown is Paul Mantee (Sam Field), who sci-fi fans will recall starred in the movie "Robinson Crusoe on Mars." His imdb page is at: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Mantee,+Paul From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:04 am Subject: Re: Suffer My Child--credit error Hi gang: Don again and I just wanted to add that it was Chris Metz (D MAN METZ) who alerted me earlier to the Dabney Coleman credit error in "Suffer My Child." By the way, Chris says that he recently obtained some magazines off eBay with cover photos devoted to certain SEARCH cast members. He said he will post scans to this mailing list when he gets them. Cool! Also, for those who have been watching, there will be some slide scans from Doug McClure episodes posted to probecontrol.com in the near future. Thanks to everyone and take care. ========================================================= --- In probe_control@y..., dghprobe3@a... wrote: > > Someone pointed this out earlier. In the opening credits > of "Suffer My Child," actor Dabney Coleman (who played Elliot > Desmond) was misidentified with the wrong photo insert... From: "Dynasty Online Amy Alexander" Date: Tue Feb 27, 2001 4:14 am Subject: SEARCH Unicorn Video ... The LEGEND lives on! ;) Jim probecontrol@dynasty.net -------------------------------------- Bryan wrote: According to my local video dealer, who specializes in hard to find videos, Probe is still (as of Jan 2001 catalog) listed as being available. From: Dghprobe3@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:09:15 EST To: bryankd@mac.com Subject: question for Unicorn Video Hi Bryan: Jim Alexander had this question for Unicorn Video, which you can ask whenever you are able to contact them: "I wonder if UNICORN still offers the PROBE video in their catalogue?" Videoflicks says the title has been discontinued. Maybe some video dealers still carry old stock?