From: Linfoot@b... Date: Fri Mar 9, 2001 6:53 pm Subject: Thanks Just wanted to thank Jim and Don for the box of tapes I received today, thanks guys and keep up the good work, now I can get all nostalgic like the the rest of you. Even now I`m wallowing in 70`s memories, might even get those flared trousers out ! Paul From: Jim Alexander Date: Sun Mar 11, 2001 3:34 am Subject: www.probecontrol.com Graphic > >... He reminded me today that I never did make that image. So I have now done > so, and have attached it in this email. Thanks. Bryan -------------------------------------- Sharp lookin' graphic, Bryan! Jim Alexander probecontrol@d... From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Mar 11, 2001 5:06 am Subject: Re: www.probecontrol.com Graphic Bryan Durk wrote: >>> If you get any site to link to our site, you should ask them to link using this graphic. And we should get their graphic (or at least site) and link back to them. I will do that in the future. <<< Don here and I like the graphic also. I notice that it's the high quality scan of the filmclip my brother got from Lincoln Enterprises back in 1984. I hope people start using it. It certainly catches the eye. So folks on the list will know what we are talking about, I posted the image below. Thanks again, Bryan. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Mar 15, 2001 7:05 pm Subject: Morning Glory Circle Hi gang: Don again and while looking for something else, I found some information on the studio neighborhood used in the SEARCH episode "Countdown to Panic." The house which was used for the Parker residence was indeed the house used for "The Partridge Family." It was also seen on "Bewitched" as the home of the Kravitzes. Chris Metz mentioned this in a previous post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/287 John (actingman) had some more info in a follow up post: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/291 The Darrin Stephens house of "Bewitched" and the Bellows house of "I Dream of Jeannie" are in the same area. Numerous other TV shows and movies were filmed there as well. This is located within a portion of what used to be called Columbia Ranch, now known as Warner Bros. Ranch. An online map and tour of the neighborhood with various descriptions is at this webpage: http://www.1164.com/ranch/tour/index.html 1981 photos of the houses in the neighborhood are located here: www.1164.com/ranch/1981/index.html The home page, which gives a lot of other information, is at this address: www.1164.com/ Below is a composite image of the neighborhood which was seen as Lockwood was speeding out of there. Between the maps and photos, we should be able to identify the houses which appear. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Mar 15, 2001 7:39 pm Subject: Morning Glory Circle (Parker house) In exploring the Morning Glory Circle webpages, I found a page devoted to the house that was used for Bill and Beth Parker's house at: http://www.1164.com/ranch/photos/kravitzes/index.html For comparison, below are video grabs of Lockwood as he goes from the front to the side of the house. From: "Kenneth Carroll" Date: Thu Mar 15, 2001 11:37 pm Subject: New Guy Hi, I'm the new guy! I have been for some time looking for info on Search and got nowhere till I entered "Probe Control" in the search engine. Once I discovered there was a video out there by the name of "Probe" instead of "Search" I started hunting and found my copy on e-bay after some waiting. I haven't seen the show since they rerun the pilot movie on WGN Chicago back in the late 70's or early 80's. I loved the show as a 10 year old when it aired in 72-73. At first my folks wouldn't let me stay up, but one night Mom agreed to let me sit up with her and watch it. I was a big sci-fi freak, so when she saw the control room and everything she said "I see why you like this show." After that, I got to see it some but I think I only got to see around 10 eps or so and it was gone. I remember walking around the playground pretending like I was talking to Probe control! I really enjoyed Burgess Meredith's role as Cameron, still do! I enjoyed seeing him in just about anything after that, except that flop spin-off from All in the Family "Gloria". I got the video just last week, and my wife and 3 kids all loved it with me. The show hasn't lost it's charm! As I told Jim already, one of the episodes that sticks out most in my mind is called as it turns out "Let Us Prey". I distinctly remember a friend spending the night and we argued at quite some length because he was used to watching reruns of Perry Mason at 9 when Search was on. It was the rerun of "Let Us Prey" and I knew the chances of me seeing the episode again were probably slim. I hadn't caught it the first go around. I was probably pretty selfish about it, I refused to back down. He kept saying "I'm the guest, you don't treat your guest like that! You should let me watch Perry Mason!" "Yeah, but it's on 5 nights a week and Search is only on once!" And the deal was on. I challenged him to a series of games to decide the outcome and he finally laughed at me and caved in saying he gave up. So the selfish host got to see his show! I better stop for now, I've gabbed enough! ;o) Ken C From: DBoysen@a... Date: Fri Mar 16, 2001 1:28 am Subject: Re: Morning Glory Circle Hey Gang, I actually work on the WB lot and have seen this house a number of times. I had no recolection of it being used in a "Search" episode however until I read Don's post. Now if I can only find the building that was used for the exterior shots of World Securities. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Fri Mar 16, 2001 3:07 am Subject: Re: New Guy Hi Kenneth: Don here and welcome to the SEARCH mailing list. I enjoyed reading your post, thanks for sharing that with us. However, I was wondering what the "Perry Mason" fan's reaction was to SEARCH. Did he like it? --- In probe_control@y..., "Kenneth Carroll" wrote: > As I told Jim already, one of the episodes that sticks out most in my mind > is called as it turns out "Let Us Prey". I distinctly remember a friend > spending the night and we argued at quite some length because he was used to > watching reruns of Perry Mason at 9 when Search was on... From: "Kenneth Carroll" Date: Fri Mar 16, 2001 4:08 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: New Guy > I was wondering what the "Perry Mason" fan's reaction was to SEARCH. > Did he like it? > If he did, he hid it well. It was the typical "I didn't get my way" response - "It was ok I guess." Ken From: "Kenneth Carroll" Date: Fri Mar 16, 2001 4:17 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: Morning Glory Circle > Hey Gang, I actually work on the WB lot and have seen this house > a number of times. I had no recolection of it being used in a "Search" > episode however until I read Don's post. > > Wow, what do you do there, if you don't mind me asking, you've got me curious. Ken From: DBoysen@a... Date: Fri Mar 16, 2001 5:46 am Subject: Re: Morning Glory Circle I don't mind at all, Ken. I don't work for Warners but for an independent film company that releases through Warner Bros. Therefore they give us office space on the lot. By the way, thanks for the Probe Title Quicktime clip, Bryan(?) BIG file. Any chance of getting a clip from the opening of Search? From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Fri Mar 16, 2001 5:56 am Subject: 'Bewitched' House Identified "Bewitched" House Identified by Don Harden When Lockwood drives out of Beth Parker's neighborhood in "Countdown to Panic," the first house we see directly in front of Lockwood's car is the house used for Darren Stephens in "Bewitched." Below is another composite. To the left is the detail from "Countdown" showing that house in front of Lockwood's car. To the lower right is a video grab from an episode of "The Partridge Family" showing the same house more clearly as seen from the sidewalk. From this angle, we see mountains in the background. (We've established that Beth's house is the same one used by the Kravitzes on "Bewitched" and was used later by the Partridges.) I found this Partridge Family grab at: http://www.1164.com/captures/partridge-family/index.html As Lockwood travels out of the neighborhood toward our left, the next house we saw was the one that was used for the Griswold's house in the "Lethal Weapon" movies. Clear shots of this house are at: http://www.1164.com/ranch/photos/griswolds/index.html From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Fri Mar 16, 2001 6:18 am Subject: Harbison-Vollmer Set Identified Harbison/Vollmer Set Identified by Don Harden In a previous post (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/458), I mentioned that the same set was used for Harbison's building in "The Packagers" and portions of Vollmer's bank in "Numbered for Death." Warner Bros. has a more recent picture of this set on one of it's webpages (a portion appears lower right). They refer to it as their "Embassy Courtyard/New York Park." They add that it has been used as the Raffles Hotel in "Bring 'Em Back Alive" and as the outdoor cafe in the "Hotel" series. You will need a plug-in to see these IPIX rotating pictures which you can download from their index page: http://wbsf.warnerbros.com/cmp/ipix/index.html The Harbison/Vollmer set and surroundings appear on this page: http://wbsf.warnerbros.com/cmp/ipix/nypark.htm From: actingman@i... Date: Fri Mar 16, 2001 3:08 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: Morning Glory Circle To hell with the World Securities building (and they used more then one), get into the film vaults and start coping episodes for us. Or get into the archives and see what's still around. And seriously, try to get in contact with people in distribution and find out why the show is only available for export. Maybe we can get someone to change that and get the show on a cable network here. And yes, I am envious. I would love to stroll around that back lot. At 01:28 AM 3/16/01 +0000, you wrote: >Hey Gang, I actually work on the WB lot and have seen this house >a number of times. I had no recolection of it being used in a "Search" >episode however until I read Don's post. Now if I can only find the >building that was used for the exterior shots of World Securities. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:25 am Subject: Entry Port becomes Probe Control Entry Port becomes Probe Control? by Don Harden Well, folks, as Bryan Durk would say, here's yet another "rabbit out of the hat" on my part. In looking over my filmclips from "Live Men Tell Tales," I notice that this seems to be the only other episode to feature the Probe Control entry port or waiting room as seen in the "Probe" pilot movie. The other thing I notice is that this room has white cinder block walls and a white floor. In the clip scan below left, there is a distinctive corner coming into this room. This corner and the overall look of the room appears to be the same setting for the third brightly-lit Probe set. Notice that the same sort of corner appears behind Miss James during "Numbered for Death" and behind Lockwood near the beginning of "Countdown to Panic" (pictured below right). On the videos, you can see the cinder block patterns in the wall more clearly than in these captures. They turned the Probe waiting room into the third Probe Control set? Who knew? From: Bryan Date: Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:29 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] New Guy What great recollections! > Hi, I'm the new guy! I have been for some time looking for info on Search > and got nowhere till I entered "Probe Control" in the search engine. Once I > discovered there was a video out there by the name of "Probe" instead of > "Search" I started hunting and found my copy on e-bay after some waiting. I > haven't seen the show since they rerun the pilot movie on WGN Chicago back > in the late 70's or early 80's. I loved the show as a 10 year old when it > aired in 72-73. At first my folks wouldn't let me stay up, but one night Mom > agreed to let me sit up with her and watch it. I was a big sci-fi freak, so > when she saw the control room and everything she said "I see why you like > this show." After that, I got to see it some but I think I only got to see > around 10 eps or so and it was gone. I remember walking around the > playground pretending like I was talking to Probe control! I really enjoyed > Burgess Meredith's role as Cameron, still do! I enjoyed seeing him in just > about anything after that, except that flop spin-off from All in the Family > "Gloria". > I got the video just last week, and my wife and 3 kids all loved it with > me. The show hasn't lost it's charm! > As I told Jim already, one of the episodes that sticks out most in my mind > is called as it turns out "Let Us Prey". I distinctly remember a friend > spending the night and we argued at quite some length because he was used to > watching reruns of Perry Mason at 9 when Search was on. It was the rerun of > "Let Us Prey" and I knew the chances of me seeing the episode again were > probably slim. I hadn't caught it the first go around. I was probably pretty > selfish about it, I refused to back down. He kept saying "I'm the guest, you > don't treat your guest like that! You should let me watch Perry Mason!" > "Yeah, but it's on 5 nights a week and Search is only on once!" And the deal > was on. I challenged him to a series of games to decide the outcome and he > finally laughed at me and caved in saying he gave up. So the selfish host > got to see his show! > I better stop for now, I've gabbed enough! ;o) > > Ken C From: Bryan Date: Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:31 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: Morning Glory Circle Yes, I do have it, and will be happy to send it on a CD. Contact me direct (bryankd@m...) > I don't mind at all, Ken. I don't work for Warners but for an > independent film company that releases through Warner Bros. Therefore > they give us office space on the lot. By the way, thanks for the > Probe Title Quicktime clip, Bryan(?) BIG file. Any chance of getting > a clip from the opening of Search? From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat Mar 17, 2001 2:55 am Subject: New poll for probe_control Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the probe_control group: Of the episodes we have on video, who was your favorite main villain or "heavy" in SEARCH? o Harold Streeter (Sir John Gielgud) o Mr. White (Maurice Evans) o General Chu (Bill Fletcher) o David Pelham (Edward Mulhare) o Dr. Carl Moen (Jeff Corey) o Kenyon Wade (Logan Ramsey) o Mark Elliott (Bill Bixby) o Martin Honer (Byron Morrow) o Antonia Bravo (Linda Cristal) o Henri Danzig (Albert Paulsen) o Pierre Karim (Michael Pataki) o Emmett Brugman (Nehemiah Persoff) o Cdr. Bill Parker (Ed Nelson) o Sam Boyce (Peter Mark Richman) o Paul Holloway (John Vernon) o Arlene Morrison (Rhonda Fleming) o Ralph Byron (Patrick O'Neal) o Bob Campbell (Richard LePore) To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/polls Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! From: "Mark Speck" Date: Sat Mar 17, 2001 8:18 am Subject: Welcome Ken! Hi Ken, and welcome to the list! Best, Mark From: michael beacom Date: Mon Mar 19, 2001 4:57 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Welcome Ken! Dear Mark, I've never really used a Yahoo group before - tried signing onto one last year as an experiment but do not believe I did so successfully. In case your greeting was for someone else I apologize in advance for the reply, but if it was directed at myself, my name's Michael. But heck, I'll answer to Ken or whatever else, for that matter. I'm very enthused to find others who know and enjoyed Search (I never think of it as Probe, despite the name change). Up until now I had no one around me who was familiar with the show so this is a dramatic change and I hope to learn lots of Search-lore from those who have had more access to scripts/episodes over the years. Michael B. Mark Speck wrote: > Hi Ken, and welcome to the list! > > Best, > > Mark From: michael beacom Date: Mon Mar 19, 2001 5:18 am Subject: A dunebuggy, a girl, and Hugh O'brien. Greetings all. Can anyone tell me which episode was it where Lockwood and a female companion were driving a purple dune buggy on a beach and getting shot at? That's the only detail that I recall from the episode but I remember that scene quite well. Thanks. Michael B. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Mon Mar 19, 2001 6:10 am Subject: 'Flight to Nowhere' & desert dune buggy --- In probe_control..., michael beacom wrote: > Can anyone tell me which episode was it where Lockwood and a > female companion were driving a purple dune buggy on a beach > and getting shot at? ============================================ Hello Michael: Don Harden here and welcome to the group. The episode was "Flight to Nowhere" and we have that episode on video. Jim Alexander has the clearest copy. Contact him at: probecontrol@d... I have a copy of that one, but it's an Armed Forces version, kinda dark and faded compared to Jim's, which is from Australia's Network 10. There are a few minor edits in the Australia version. I made a post about those cuts which can be found at this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/228 If you're a purist, my Armed Forces version has those cuts intact, but again, the picture quality is not as good. If you want a refresher on the episode, I wrote a review of "Flight" a while back which is at this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/115 Finally, between Jim and myself, we have about 16 or 17 of the 23 episodes. Let us know if you'd be interested in getting the others. John (actingman) will have to let us know if he's still able to do dubs of "The Gold Machine." With over 500 posts to the mailing list by now, there is a LOT of material for new members to wade through! However, you can speed things by doing word searches on the mailing list's home page. Just look for the "search archive" box. Thanks again and welcome aboard. From: Jim Alexander Date: Tue Mar 20, 2001 3:59 am Subject: A Dune Buggy, a Girl, and Hugh O'Brien. michael beacom wrote: >... Can anyone tell me which episode was it where Lockwood and a female companion were driving a purple dune buggy on a beach and getting shot at? That's the only detail that I recall from the episode but I remember that scene quite well. Thanks. Michael B. ----------------------------------- I didn't see an answer to your query, Michael. I probably missed it. That episode is called "Flight To Nowhere". Joanna (Saturday morning's live-action "Isis") Cameron was the guest-star. "...We're being followed by the Goldilocks Twins and the Big Bad Bear!" Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: Jim Alexander Date: Tue Mar 20, 2001 4:51 am Subject: SEARCH dubs for Kenneth Sorry to post this to the list-- but Kenneth Carroll has apparently changed ISP's. I wanted to make sure he's still "hooked up and tuned in" to "The Adventures of Probe"! ;) Jim Alexander ----------------------------------------- Hi, Kenneth! What with your new service and my recent ISP problems, I wanted to make sure that we "connected". Did you get my last letter concerning the SEARCH dubs you requested? The one with my address? Let me know! Thanks! Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed Mar 21, 2001 2:15 am Subject: Poll results for probe_control The following probe_control poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: This is more of a fun question: Of the SEARCH episodes we have on video, who is your favorite guest Probe agent? CHOICES AND RESULTS - David Pelham (Edward Mulhare - "Iceman"), 0 votes, 0.00% - Stephanie Burnside (Mary Frann - "Iceman"), 1 votes, 25.00% - Andre Gerard (Edward Bell - "Iceman"), 1 votes, 25.00% - Arnold Hiller (unknown - "Short Circuit"), 1 votes, 25.00% - Ed Bain (Dane Clark - "24 Carat Hit"), 1 votes, 25.00% - Trudi Hauser (Lauri Peters - "Numbered"), 0 votes, 0.00% - Howard Baker (George Kramer - "Goddess"), 0 votes, 0.00% From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Wed Mar 21, 2001 2:37 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Poll results for probe_control Wow, didn't know the deadline for this poll was gonna close so fast. Did the results for the favorite Probe agent (Lockwood, Bianco, Grover) ever get published? If so, I must have missed it. Chris From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Mar 21, 2001 3:49 am Subject: Re: Poll results for probe_control --- In probe_control@y..., dmanmetz@a... wrote: > Wow, didn't know the deadline for this poll was gonna close so > fast. Did the results for the favorite Probe agent (Lockwood, > Bianco, Grover) ever get published? If so, I must have missed it. ========================================================= Hi Chris: The results for the favorite Probe poll is at this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/surveys?id=477853 If you want to see the status of all the polls so far: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/polls There will be a couple more polls before I run out of ideas. Right now a poll is running for the favorite SEARCH villian. If anyone has an idea for a new poll, you can suggest it in a post, or you can actually create one yourself for all to see. Just click on the blue "Polls" link located in that ubiquitous box in the upper right corner on these mailing list pages. It will take you to a page where you can get started. Out of some 30 to 35 members, only some 8 to 4 members bother participating in the polls so far. The rest of you have no IDEA what you are missing! :-) Don H. From: "Mark Speck" Date: Wed Mar 21, 2001 4:31 am Subject: Welcome Michael! Hi Michael, and welcome to the list! I didn't confuse you with Ken. He joined the list on March 15th--it's message Number 498 in Yahoo's archive. I hadn't seen an intro from you, otherwise I would have responded. In any event, I hope you enjoy the list. :) Best, Mark From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Thu Mar 22, 2001 3:40 am Subject: 1972 SEARCH Article LA Herald Examiner Greetings to everyone at Probe Control and welcome to the new members. I remember how excited I was when I stumbled on to this site. I enjoyed even more when I saw episodes I had not seen in 28 years. As a kid ( I was pretty young) I remembered how scared I was when the frog men threw Lockwood overboard in Suffer my Child and when Grover found dead guy in car and the lady he was with stole his Corvette in A Honeymoon to Kill (an episode we don't have on video). But anyway Search has always stood out in memory and like everyone involved in site, part of the fun is finding information on Search because nobody remembers it! Well cutting to the chase, I have recently obtained OCT 18, 1972 Los Angeles Herald - Examiner with a four page interview with Hugh O'Brian. In the article Hugh O'Brian talks about why he chose to do Search and was forcasting 25 years later on what he will be doing. Funny, at the time he thought he would still be acting 25 years from 1972! Unlike Tony Franciosa, O'brain claims he was not doing the show for the money, but for exposure which would lead to more acting jobs. The biggest reverlation that I got out article was how O'brain talks about the alteration the series was getting ready to take after the first 9 episodes . He felt like he was a puppet in the pilot and stated that Probe Control will be less involved so he could be more in command. He considered Probe Control as a "Wounderful Gimmick" Stating that Probe Control would be less involved in future episodes, it was not O'brain's decision alone. He said that NBC, Warner, and everbody involved agreed on Probe Control taking the back seat because it hurt the flow of the story's plot. As Jim stated before, Probe control was the real star of the show. To bad they didn't realize it back in 1972. I am gonna try and scan the cover and the 4 page article this weekend so everyone can read it. Hope everyone enjoys. Chris From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Mar 22, 2001 3:42 am Subject: Entry Port becomes Probe Control & costs No one has yet commented about the idea of the SEARCH crew turning the entry port waiting room into the final Probe Control set for the last 8 episodes. My guess is that, at the midseason renewal point, some studio or network bean counter looked over the SEARCH sets for any cost cutting moves. "Hey, you guys have this big waiting room here that you don't seem to use much. Why don't you move the Probe Control set into this room and free up a soundstage for other shows?" With Leslie Stevens gone and ratings not so hot, NBC and/or the studio probably insisted on the changes as a condition for renewing the series. (Again, we are reduced to speculating because no one has come forward to explain what happened.) What's interesting is that they never really lost the waiting room. They could have redressed the set back again if they ever needed to, but they never went back to it. That was a shame because the waiting room was filled with many rare antiques and such, underscoring the fact that Probe was about seeking "that which is missing." While it was true that they had to reshoot stock footage to reflect the new set, that cost had to have been offset by the decrease of soundstage space, the ousting of three Probe techs (i.e., Griffin, Kuroda & Ramos), the loss of Bob Justman, and other cut corners we don't yet know about. The National Enquirer a few weeks ago mentioned that Angel Tompkins will soon be releasing an autobiographical book. I wonder how many "behind the scenes" SEARCH stories we will be reading, some perhaps for the first time ever? Don H. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Mar 22, 2001 3:56 am Subject: Re: 1972 SEARCH Article LA Herald Examiner --- In probe_control@y..., dmanmetz@a... wrote: > ...I have recently obtained OCT 18, 1972 Los Angeles Herald - > Examiner with a four page interview with Hugh O'Brian... Hi Chris: Thanks very much for the above. I can't wait to read the full article. According to the clapboard dates, they were in the midst of filming "A Honeymoon to Kill" by Oct. 18, 1972, which was the 14th episode. Not sure if Leslie Stevens was gone by that point or not. It's obvious that the three lead actors would agree to a diminishing of Probe Control. It would give them more screen time and they would appear to be more the decision makers. Unfortunately, most of the fans agree that the earlier episodes were the better ones (for the most part). From: actingman@i... Date: Thu Mar 22, 2001 3:33 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Entry Port becomes Probe Control & costs I doubt that the waiting room was standing all that time and waiting to be used. Remember, as far as I know...not having all the episodes, you never saw all the way through from control in to the waiting room. I doubt they were standing right next to each other. It is more difficult to match up two sets like that back to back, and if you are never going to see them connect...and if you are only going to use one of the sets once in a great while...it's easier to set it up in some corner-use it-and then strike it. Also, the Probe set of the first 15 was a much simpler set from the pilot. You didn't have the people in the background in all directions. All you had was darkness that was achieved with lighting and with a heavy black curtain for the door area. The first 15 set, I suspect, could be set up and taken down in very short order. Set it up...a day or two of filming, and then put it in the corner for the rest of the week. And it did not take up much space. I wouldn't be surprised to discover that on the other side of the studio from the Probe set might have been one of the sets built for that particular episode that particular week. Yes they went out on location, and used various generic Warners sets on various sound stages (like the stairway) but the speciality sets (like the cardroom in Murrow) would have gone up and come down as the need arose. And if it takes 10 or 15 minutes to set up each shot, then that's 10 or 15 minutes you can be putting up the set on the other side of the studio. Ready to film? Then you stop. "Cut...print it! Set up the next shot!" Back to work. The last 8 set was a more difficult set for them. It had walls that had to look the same each week...and be lit properly. So it probably took longer to setup each week...if it was coming down at all. (It's possible the changes meant they now were leaving the Probe set standing when not in use...although it wasn't that bad to take down...it was just a box...but still more complicated then the first set.) While there were less speaking parts, there were more people in the shots...all needed lab coats, badges, catering, salary, direction and coordination. They had to do more post production because they started adding echo to all the dialog in control...not just to what they were hearing come over the speakers. They had to reshoot all of their screen stock shots (which cost them in post production...remember, for the first 15, they already had half of the screen effects shots done from the pilot.) I haven't had time to look at the scans of the waiting room to see how it resembles the bright Probe. But I think that is a good observation on Don's part...and if you are going to make silly changes to the format and set...it's a possible answer as to where they got the idea for the new look. At 10:42 PM 3/21/01 -0500, you wrote: >No one has yet commented about the idea of the SEARCH crew turning the entry >port waiting room into the final Probe Control set for the last 8 episodes. > >My guess is that, at the midseason renewal point, some studio or network bean >counter looked over the SEARCH sets for any cost cutting moves. "Hey, you >guys have this big waiting room here that you don't seem to use much. Why >don't you move the Probe Control set into this room and free up a soundstage >for other shows?" > >With Leslie Stevens gone and ratings not so hot, NBC and/or the studio >probably insisted on the changes as a condition for renewing the series. >(Again, we are reduced to speculating because no one has come forward to >explain what happened.) > >What's interesting is that they never really lost the waiting room. They >could have redressed the set back again if they ever needed to, but they >never went back to it. That was a shame because the waiting room was filled >with many rare antiques and such, underscoring the fact that Probe was about >seeking "that which is missing." > >While it was true that they had to reshoot stock footage to reflect the new >set, that cost had to have been offset by the decrease of soundstage space, >the ousting of three Probe techs (i.e., Griffin, Kuroda & Ramos), the loss of >Bob Justman, and other cut corners we don't yet know about. > >The National Enquirer a few weeks ago mentioned that Angel Tompkins will soon >be releasing an autobiographical book. I wonder how many "behind the scenes" >SEARCH stories we will be reading, some perhaps for the first time ever? > >Don H. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Fri Mar 23, 2001 12:21 am Subject: Leslie Stevens' vision of SEARCH Actingman's post and a private email from Mike (Okuda23392) brought up some interesting new points, so thanks for those. Unfortunately, all we really have right now is speculation. In scanning the large number of SEARCH filmclips in my collection, I try to pass along things I notice in them. Then I see things in the video grabs I'm collecting of the last 8 episodes, for which we have no filmclips. What's funny is my brother catches things that even I miss. I posted a comparison photo set of the old entry port and the final Probe set at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/507 The videos themselves are clearer than the captures I posted. The giveaway is that both sets have this same corner that comes into the room. I'm not setting things into concrete, I'm just making educated "guesstimates" as Cam would say. All my guesses up to this point may turn out to be completely wrong. Hopefully one day we will find someone knowledgeable who worked behind the scenes. Maybe we'll even find someone who knows what the deal was with the background extras and the badges and stuff. Without getting too lost in details, one point I didn't get to emphasize previously is that when Leslie Stevens left, there apparently was no one left to fight for his unique vision of SEARCH when the midseason changes occurred. The folks who were left (Anthony Spinner and Christopher Strong) seem to have been at the mercy of NBC and/or the studio. I think Stevens would have fought against some or even all of the changes that were made. Don H. From: actingman@i... Date: Fri Mar 23, 2001 3:08 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Leslie Stevens' vision of SEARCH It is the same wall design. (I never knew the Yahoo archives show the attached picture in the body of the message.) It's a matter of trivia now if it was the same wall pieces, or if they just made new pieces for the third set. It's amazing what they can do. I did a couple of days extra work on Third Watch, and was on their hospital set they built for this season. It looks absolutely real. I was standing right in front of the walls, and it looked like tile with tile trim, etc. It wasn't until I touched it and realized it was JUST painted plywood. Even after touching it and knowing how it was made, I still couldn't see the difference. In Stephen Poe's book on the making of Star Trek Voyager, there are pictures of the bridge as they built it. It's all plywood. And yet I suspect if you stand on that set you think it's metal. I have no doubt that what we are seeing in the waiting room, and in the bright Probe set is plywood. The other question is whether the waiting room in Live Men Tell Tales matches the waiting room we see in the Probe pilot. Another reason we have to find a video copy of Live Men. By the way, as an extra playing an orderly on Third Watch (and two 15 hour days of filming all you see is my back in one shot) I had to wear a picture badge. Both days I was given a woman's badge. Some of the union extras who were used all of the time, and who had been with the show during it's first season, had badges with their own pictures on them. I recently read a story of one woman who won a charity bid and did two days of extra work on The West Wing. For her first day she wore a badge with someone else's picture. The second day, as a treat for her they made a badge for her. We can see from closeups of our clips that on Search they made sure the speaking actors on the Probe set had their pictures on their badges...which is interesting since I doubt they were concerned that someone would have the capability to see that much detail...certainly they weren't worried about that back in 72/73. But it's nice to see the attention to detail. At 12:21 AM 3/23/01 +0000, you wrote: >Actingman's post and a private email from Mike (Okuda23392) brought >up some interesting new points, so thanks for those. > >Unfortunately, all we really have right now is speculation. In >scanning the large number of SEARCH filmclips in my collection, I try >to pass along things I notice in them. Then I see things in the >video grabs I'm collecting of the last 8 episodes, for which we have >no filmclips. What's funny is my brother catches things that even I >miss. > >I posted a comparison photo set of the old entry port and the final >Probe set at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/507 >The videos themselves are clearer than the captures I posted. The >giveaway is that both sets have this same corner that comes into the >room. > >I'm not setting things into concrete, I'm just making >educated "guesstimates" as Cam would say. All my guesses up to this >point may turn out to be completely wrong. Hopefully one day we will >find someone knowledgeable who worked behind the scenes. > >Maybe we'll even find someone who knows what the deal was with the >background extras and the badges and stuff. > >Without getting too lost in details, one point I didn't get to >emphasize previously is that when Leslie Stevens left, there >apparently was no one left to fight for his unique vision of SEARCH >when the midseason changes occurred. > >The folks who were left (Anthony Spinner and Christopher Strong) seem >to have been at the mercy of NBC and/or the studio. I think Stevens >would have fought against some or even all of the changes that were >made. > >Don H. From: okuda23392@a... Date: Sun Mar 25, 2001 5:29 am Subject: color correction Regarding color correction on old film clips, this can sometimes be done fairly easily with Adobe Photoshop, as long as the film has not "turned" too badly. Here are notes on correction for one typical image that I found on probe_control.com: Open your image file with Adobe Photoshop. Use the following steps. 1. Under IMAGE menu, select the MODE submenu. The line marked "RGB color should be checked. Change this to "CMYK color." (There should be very little visible change to the photo after you do this. 2. Again, under the IMAGE menu, select the ADJUST submenu. Select the LEVELS… option. A window labeled "LEVELS" will open. 3. At the top of the LEVELS window, there's a pull-down box that says something like Channel: CMYK. Click on it, and select CYAN. 4. Below the graph, there should be a line with three arrows. (Below that is a line with two arrows. We're not using those.) Drag the left arrow to the right until the first "Input Levels" box shows around 130. Next, drag the middle arrow to the right until the second "Input levels" box shows around 0.75. 5. Pull down the Channel menu again. This time, select MAGENTA. Drag the RIGHT arrow to the left until the third "Input Levels" box shows around 190. Drag the middle arrow to the left until the second "Input Levels" box shows around 1.20. 6. Pull down the Channel menu again. This time, select YELLOW. Drag the RIGHT arrow to the left until the third "Input Levels" box shows around 90. Drag the middle arrow to the left until the second "Input Levels" box shows around 1.50. 7. Pull down the Channel menu again. This time, select BLACK. Drag the LEFT arrow to the right until the first "Input Levels" box shows around 55. Drag the middle arrow to the right until the second "Input Levels" box shows around 0.75. Don't be afraid to play around with the various input level settings. You'll find that different levels work for different images, depending on the a From: okuda23392@a... Date: Sun Mar 25, 2001 5:40 am Subject: entry port/PROBE Control? In a message dated 3/22/01 12:48:47 AM, probe_control@yahoogroups.com writes: << No one has yet commented about the idea of the SEARCH crew turning the entry port waiting room into the final Probe Control set for the last 8 episodes. My guess is that, at the midseason renewal point, some studio or network bean counter looked over the SEARCH sets for any cost cutting moves. >> I suspect you're right. I would guess that the reason was not principally stage space (although that would be a factor) but shooting time. That is, I suspect that the dark lighting took significantly longer to set up for each shot than for the relatively flat, bright lighting seen in the later control room. And time very definitely equals money in this situation. Also, given the fact that we rarely saw the waiting room, I doubt that it was left standing the entire early part of the season. Stage space is always at a premium, and it is a common practice to "fold and hold" walls and other elements of infrequently-used sets. This way, the components of the set could be put back up when needed, but otherwise, the valuable stage space could be used for other sets as needed for each episode. (Someone has suggested that the original PROBE Control series set might have been taken down on the days it was not in use. This is certainly possible, but you'd have lost a fair amount of time each episode for re-lighting the set. It might have been worth it to them, depending on how tight they were on stage space.) The rough-hewn concrete wall finish used in the new PROBE Control set is a relatively easy surface to create using plaster. While it seems likely that they recycled some walls from the entryway, it is also entirely possible that they made some additional walls specifically for the From: Jim Alexander Date: Sun Mar 25, 2001 8:27 pm Subject: Audience with "Miss Hart" (Deanna Lund) HEY! In dubbing THE ADONIS FILE for new member Kenneth Carroll, I just realized that I am going to meet Deanna ("Miss Hart") Lund in Cleveland in April-- during an "Irwin Allen" tribute convention. She will, of course, be there as part of the LAND OF THE GIANTS cast (along with ex-husband Don Matheson and fellow LOTG castemember Don Marshall). I plan on caontacting her agent soon, and requesting a few moments with her, when I will introduce myself,and give her copies of the SEARCH episodes (that include her appearance) that we have available--in order to 'spur' her memories of her SEARCH experiences. Then, at a later date, I will attempt to interview her-- by telephone, snail mail, or e-mail. Do y'all think this seems a decent way to work it??? Jim probecontrol@d... From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Mar 25, 2001 8:55 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Audience with "Miss Hart" (Deanna Lund) Hi Jim: Thanks for the post you made regarding Deanna Lund. Your ideas are excellent--go for it! And to anyone else on the SEARCH mailing list who is in a similar situation, use your imagination and do as Jim suggests. Also, if anyone on the list needs extra dubs of certain episodes so they can be sent out to certain of the guest stars, etc., please let Jim and Don know. Anything to promote our "obscure fave." Don H. From: "Kenneth Carroll" Date: Sun Mar 25, 2001 10:30 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Audience with "Miss Hart" (Deanna Lund) Wow, is she a guest star on just that ep or was it others too? I have (as Jim probably does too!) a copy of an Fantasy Worlds of Irwin Allen video that has some interview stuff with her. Sounds interesting Jim! Ken > HEY! > > In dubbing THE ADONIS FILE for new member Kenneth Carroll, I just > realized that I am going to meet Deanna ("Miss Hart") Lund in Cleveland > in April-- during an "Irwin Allen" tribute convention. She will, of > course, be there as part of the LAND OF THE GIANTS cast (along with > ex-husband Don Matheson and fellow LOTG castemember Don Marshall). > > I plan on caontacting her agent soon, and requesting a few moments with > her, when I will introduce myself,and give her copies of the SEARCH > episodes (that include her appearance) that we have available--in order > to 'spur' her memories of her SEARCH experiences. Then, at a later > date, I will attempt to interview her-- by telephone, snail mail, or > e-mail. > > Do y'all think this seems a decent way to work it??? > > Jim > probecontrol@d... From: Jim Alexander Date: Sun Mar 25, 2001 11:02 pm Subject: Which SEARCH episodes (that we have) feature "Miss Hart"? Double check with Don Hart, er-- HARDEN-- He's talented enough to tell you right off the top'a his head! ;) That FANTASY WORLDS is some fun tape, huh? Jim probecontrol@dynasty.net --------------------------------------- Kenneth Carroll wrote: Wow, is she a guest star on just that ep or was it others too? I have a copy of an Fantasy Worlds of Irwin Allen video that has some interview stuff with her. Sounds interesting Jim! Ken From: actingman@i... Date: Mon Mar 26, 2001 3:20 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Audience with "Miss Hart" (Deanna Lund) You go Jim. If you still have your tv station id's...it would help get you in. At 02:27 PM 3/25/2001 -0600, you wrote: >HEY! > >In dubbing THE ADONIS FILE for new member Kenneth Carroll, I just >realized that I am going to meet Deanna ("Miss Hart") Lund in Cleveland >in April-- during an "Irwin Allen" tribute convention. She will, of >course, be there as part of the LAND OF THE GIANTS cast (along with >ex-husband Don Matheson and fellow LOTG castemember Don Marshall). > >I plan on caontacting her agent soon, and requesting a few moments with >her, when I will introduce myself,and give her copies of the SEARCH >episodes (that include her appearance) that we have available--in order >to 'spur' her memories of her SEARCH experiences. Then, at a later >date, I will attempt to interview her-- by telephone, snail mail, or >e-mail. > >Do y'all think this seems a decent way to work it??? > >Jim >probecontrol@d... From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Mon Mar 26, 2001 3:59 am Subject: 1972 Herald Examiner (Hugh O'Brian) As promised, here is the 1972 Herald Examiner article on Hugh O'Brian. This may fill some of the missing blanks. Had a rough time trying compress this file because it is to big, so I'm gonna have to send it in 3 messages. Enjoy! Chris From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Mon Mar 26, 2001 4:05 am Subject: Harald Examiner Patr 2 Here is the second part. One more to go. Chris From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Mon Mar 26, 2001 4:09 am Subject: Herald Examiner/ Last Part Here is the end of the article. Chris From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Mon Mar 26, 2001 4:21 am Subject: Herald Examiner Part 2 Don't know what happened but they were delivered out of sequence. Chris From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Mon Mar 26, 2001 4:23 am Subject: Herald Examiner Part 4 Here is the page 4. Chris From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Mon Mar 26, 2001 5:32 am Subject: Deanna Lund in 'Adonis File' only --- In probe_control@y..., "Kenneth Carroll" wrote: > Wow, is she a guest star on just that ep or was it others too? ============================================== Howdy folks: Don here and I'm sure John or Bryan could have answered this one as well, but Deanna Lund only appeared in one SEARCH episode, "The Adonis File." In opening credits, she is listed as Deanna Lund Matheson. However (and I know that John has mentioned this previously), the role of Ms. Hart was originally intended for Ms. Harding. In fact, they made her name "Hart" because it was easier to change it in the already written script. One of these days, John and/or I will put together a chart showing who all appeared in Probe Control over the course of the series. There were some interesting changes and overlaps. Burgess Meredith is the only one to appear in every SEARCH episode. From: actingman@i... Date: Mon Mar 26, 2001 2:41 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Deanna Lund in 'Adonis File' only It might be in the archives somewhere, but I was once in contact with someone who knows Deanna Lund, and she had told him that she was brought in being told she would replace Angel Tompkins, but that an unwillingness to put out for someone (she was married to Don Matheson at the time) got her bumped from the show after that single episode. This is of course third hand, and so should be treated as questionable, but with the film clips showing a three month shooting span for Gold Machine, and clips showing that Adonis filmed before Gold Machine finished...I don't know what to think. At 05:32 AM 3/26/01 +0000, you wrote: >--- In probe_control@y..., "Kenneth Carroll" wrote: > > Wow, is she a guest star on just that ep or was it others too? >============================================== > >Howdy folks: Don here and I'm sure John or Bryan could have answered >this one as well, but Deanna Lund only appeared in one SEARCH >episode, "The Adonis File." In opening credits, she is listed as >Deanna Lund Matheson. > >However (and I know that John has mentioned this previously), the >role of Ms. Hart was originally intended for Ms. Harding. In fact, >they made her name "Hart" because it was easier to change it in the >already written script. > >One of these days, John and/or I will put together a chart showing >who all appeared in Probe Control over the course of the series. >There were some interesting changes and overlaps. Burgess Meredith >is the only one to appear in every SEARCH episode. From: Jim Alexander Date: Tue Mar 27, 2001 1:40 am Subject: Audience with "Miss Hart" >... This sounds great! If you write up her experiences we could get it on the website (after she saw them and approved them first). I've been hoping that is what happens with Angel (via John), and The Bullet Author (name escapes me right now, via Don). ------------------------------------- Yup! That's what I have in mind! I have a day off (thank you, LORD!) in a week. I plan to spend part of it making plenty of calls, attempting to acquire information on how to proceed with interviews with our beloved SEARCH cast (and a few of its guest stars). Don Harden was kind enough to e-mail me a list of Phone Numbers quite a while back that will come in VERRRRY useful! Any long-distance contributions accepted. Just kidding... ;) Jim probecontrol@dynasty.net From: Date: Tue Mar 27, 2001 6:00 pm Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /search vhs cover .jpg Uploaded by : actingman@i... Description : Generic VHS Search cover designed by Anthony Taylor You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/search%20vhs%20cover%20.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, actingman@i... From: actingman@i... Date: Tue Mar 27, 2001 3:41 pm Subject: Herald Examiner Although it doesn't specifically address the issue, after reading the article Chris was kind enough to post yesterday, I feel like I now have that 28 year question solved as to why Probe Control suddenly changed for the last eight episodes. Hearing O'Brien say all the different execs were in on tinkering with the format (from the first episode even!) and that after 15 they would wait for pickup, I now feel a closer reach to the answer (which we all had pretty much figured out anyway.) Of course I still would like to hear it from someone who worked the entire series and saw the change over. We will most likely debate here what he meant by "after episode 9." I am assuming he means in production order. Episode 10 was Adonis File, but I'm going to have to watch that again to see if that has "less Probe" in it. Off the top of my head I wouldn't have said so. We can chart through the series how the agents get less warnings from Control then they did in the past. Are we all screaming at the tv when Grover, in The Packagers, is going through the dark warehouse, and the scanner is not picking up a set of vitals off presence? Of course the last eight episodes seemed to be different variations of how to lose, break or take away the scanner. Actually this may explain the episode Let Us Prey. You couldn't get less Probe Control then that episode. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Mar 27, 2001 9:00 pm Subject: Re: Herald Examiner Adding to what John (actingman) said, in looking over the scripts we have posted (http://probecontrol.com/Scripts.html) and comparing them to what actually aired, I notice that whenever cuts occurred, they usually happened to Probe Control scenes. The scripts we got from Lincoln Enterprises tended to be variations of final or revised final drafts. Has anyone run into any FIRST draft scripts of SEARCH? A comparison of those with the final drafts would be interesting. Was Probe Control more involved in the first drafts? Don H. ===================================================== --- In probe_control@y..., actingman@i... wrote: > ...Hearing O'Brien say all the different execs were > in on tinkering with the format (from the first episode even!) and that > after 15 they would wait for pickup, I now feel a closer reach to the > answer (which we all had pretty much figured out anyway.) Of course I > still would like to hear it from someone who worked the entire series and > saw the change over... From: Jim Alexander Date: Wed Mar 28, 2001 4:18 am Subject: Anthony Taylor--the DaVinci of the SEARCH eGroup! MANNA FROM HEAVEN!!! Love the VHS tapecase artwork!!! Wonderful work, Ant! Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!! Now I can finally display my SEARCH tapes as they should be! What wonderful artwork you've done! LOVE the 'Cameron' on the spine, and the SEARCH logo-- but my FAVORITE has to be the lil' inset photos on the bottom rim of the box. I'm glad you've left two 'slots' for writing in the episode titles! I can't thank you enough for your efforts! I can't wait to get these printed up! Now I have to find a place where I can purchase the proper VHS slipcase covers! THIS IS GREAT!!! Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: "Mark Speck" Date: Wed Mar 28, 2001 4:57 am Subject: Re: Audience With Miss Hart Hi Jim! I feel a little embarrassed--I live in Cleveland and have not heard anything about this convention. Could you give me a few more details? Thanks! Best, Mark From: "Joseuph Christopher" Date: Wed Mar 28, 2001 11:50 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Anthony Taylor--the DaVinci of the SEARCH eGroup! Ditto, excellent work!!! -- On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:18:42 Jim Alexander wrote: >MANNA FROM HEAVEN!!! Love the VHS tapecase artwork!!! Wonderful work, Ant! >Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou!!! > >Now I can finally display my SEARCH tapes as they should be! > >What wonderful artwork you've done! LOVE the 'Cameron' on the spine, and the >SEARCH logo-- but my FAVORITE has to be the lil' inset photos on the bottom rim >of the box. I'm glad you've left two 'slots' for writing in the episode titles! > >I can't thank you enough for your efforts! I can't wait to get these printed >up! Now I have to find a place where I can purchase the proper VHS slipcase >covers! > >THIS IS GREAT!!! > >Jim Alexander >probecontrol@d... From: "Kenneth Carroll" Date: Wed Mar 28, 2001 11:50 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] 1972 Herald Examiner (Hugh O'Brian) Thanks a bunch, Chris! Very interesting! Ken From: A Taylor Date: Thu Mar 29, 2001 7:32 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Digest Number 166 Thanks guys. Obviously, it isn't finished, but DOn got me a whole buttload of images in the mail today (thanks Don!) so hopefully I will be able to finish it soon. Got a busy two weeks on right now, but I promise... soon. AT From: "Kenneth Carroll" Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 3:08 am Subject: File Upload, Yahoo How frustrating! I know I'm subscribed to the probe control group, yet when I try to go to the yahoo sight it says I'm not a member of the group. Then I tried to join the group again and it says I don't have an available e-mail address! Ken From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 10:21 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] File Upload, Yahoo You are not alone. There must be somthing wrong with yahoo. The same thing happened to me the other day, and I've been a member for almost 7 months. go to the trouble shooting portion where you can state your problem and yahoo should send you a new authorization code. I hope this works for you. Chris From: actingman@i... Date: Fri Mar 30, 2001 4:13 pm Subject: Viewmaster added to the web site www.probecontrol.com has a new addition to it: The Viewmaster release of the Search episode The Gold Machine. We scanned all 42 pictures (21 left and right images) and included the desctiption that accompanied each set of pictures on the reels. We also scanned the little story booklet and included that as well on a linking page. It's funny to read the booklets and see how they rewrite the stories to make them fit the short Viewmaster format. Note how they have the trail guide saving Lockwood and Gloria in the cave at the end when in the episode it was Lockwood battling it out and Gloria doing her part by shoving the ore car at one guy. I think they did this because a description of the fight finale would have been too difficult to condense. Anyway...enjoy the latest...and keep searching Ebay...the reels are out there. From: Jim Alexander Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 3:15 am Subject: Viewmaster added to the web site John-- The VIEW MASTER is an excellent addition to the website, and I guess, is the only piece of mass-market SEARCH merchandise besides the paperbacks. At least Lincoln Enterprises offered us a few items... Great work! Jim probecontrol@d... From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 6:08 am Subject: View-Master and Gold Machine When you look at the View-Master images page (http://probecontrol.com/ViewMaster/viewmaster.html), you can get fairly close to your screen, cross your eyes and within a minute or so, you can see the 3-D images. But this sort of thing takes some practice. Folks might save this page to a folder and try this offline. In looking over the script we have posted of "The Gold Machine" (http://probecontrol.com/Scripts/Gold%20Machine.txt), the cowhand was supposed to have been singing a dirge just before the rifle shots rang out. Those of us who have the video know this was not in the episode. Another curious item is that I have filmclips of the cowhand in the cave with Lockwood and Gloria. One is posted at: (http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/images/02act43b.jpg) This scene wasn't in the final episode or the script we posted either. It was either an ad-libbed scene, a blooper or they were working at that point from an earlier draft script. It's possible that View-Master was also working from an earlier draft of the script, in addition to writing their own stuff. This might help explain why some of the cave scenes were shot or re-shot a few months later. Again we're reduced to speculating. Has anyone run into any First Draft SEARCH scripts? The one for "Gold Machine" might answer several questions. Thanks, Don H. ================================================================ --- In probe_control@y..., actingman@i... wrote: > www.probecontrol.com has a new addition to it: The Viewmaster release > of the Search episode The Gold Machine... From: michael beacom Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 7:32 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] File Upload, Yahoo I am having that problem too! I thought perhaps it was something that I had done or that I had not logged into the group properly or some such. Any idea what is operating here and how we overcome it? Michael B. Kenneth Carroll wrote: > How frustrating! I know I'm subscribed to the probe control group, yet when > I try to go to the yahoo sight it says I'm not a member of the group. Then I > tried to join the group again and it says I don't have an available e-mail > address! > > Ken From: michael beacom Date: Sat Mar 31, 2001 7:11 pm Subject: Viewmaster additions to the website I just wanted to say that I've just seen the Viewmaster scans on the Probe Control website and am very pleased with their quality and presentation. If I recall the viewmaster discs that I used to have, the image would only have been about a centimeter and a half or so in length, so I had not expected a very good scan to result but the images that I saw were nicely sized and viewable. Everyone should go and check them out if they have not already done so. Michael Beacom.