From: ataylor@m... Date: Wed Aug 1, 2001 5:51 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Color pic Hey Bryan- I got the color O'bie pic you sent, THANKS! Wow, that is one nice looking photo! I am glad you won it and I very much appreciate you copying it for me (us, as I am sure I am not the only one who got one). How much do I owe you for it, amigo? Thanks again Anthony From: Bryan Date: Wed Aug 1, 2001 3:38 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Color pic Glad you got your copy. Anything I win on eBay, I'm glad to share with anyone in the group. (although I am slow!). Thanks, Bryan > Hey Bryan- > I got the color O'bie pic you sent, THANKS! Wow, that is one nice > looking photo! I am glad you won it and I very much appreciate you > copying it for me (us, as I am sure I am not the only one who got one). > How much do I owe you for it, amigo? > Thanks again > Anthony From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Aug 1, 2001 6:10 am Subject: LA Times on 'Incubus' The L. A. Times has more information on Leslie Stevens' "Incubus" film: Eerie Cult Classic 'Incubus' Returns After Lengthy Exile http://www.calendarlive.com/top/1,1419,L-LATimes-Search-X!ArticleDetail-38074, 00.html =========================================================== Wednesday, July 11, 2001 Eerie Cult Classic 'Incubus' Returns After Lengthy Exile Movies A print of the Esperanto horror film starring a pre-'Star Trek' William Shatner was dug up in France By DONALD LIEBENSON, Special to The Times Fox Lorber Home Video's release of Leslie Stevens' "Incubus" may at last lift a curse that seems to have bedeviled this 1965 one-of-a-kind supernatural thriller. "Incubus" has attained mythic status among horror movie buffs, cult film aficionados and, of course, the French. It never received theatrical distribution in this country and for years was thought to have been lost until a print was located in France, the only country where the film received a theatrical run. Plucked from obscurity, "Incubus" is of further interest because it stars a pre-"Star Trek" William Shatner and was photographed by two-time Academy Award winner Conrad Hall, with assists by Charles Rosher and Oscar-nominee William Fraker. And oh, yes, one other thing: The dialogue is spoken in Esperanto, a language that was invented in the 19th century in hopes that it would become planet Earth's universal tongue. Fox Lorber released "Incubus" on Tuesday in VHS ($20) and DVD ($25) editions. The DVD features an interview segment with producer Anthony Taylor, Hall and Fraker. Shatner provides a tongue-in-cheek commentary (at one point, he claims that "Star Trek" also was intended to be spoken in Esperanto). Stark and eerie, "Incubus" is set in a seaside village, where an ancient well's healing waters attract "the vain and the corrupt as well as the infirm." Allyson Ames, who later married Stevens, stars as Kia, a succubus fed up with harvesting "evil, ugly souls" for Incubus, the God of Darkness. Ignoring her sister's warnings, she is determined to lure "a noble soul" and become "the Beast God's best daughter." Enter Shatner's Marc, an incorruptible soldier, with whom she instead falls in love--with horrific consequences. The question that first comes to mind is: Esperanto? "Strangely enough, it didn't seem that big a deal," producer Taylor recalled with a laugh during a phone interview. "In retrospect, it seems more so. If the film wasn't going into the drive-ins, we felt our best chance would be getting it into an art house, where the audience would accept the idea of having another language and subtitles." "Incubus" was filmed in two weeks, primarily in Big Sur. Hall--who spoke from Chicago, where he is photographing Sam Mendes' "The Road to Perdition"--called "Incubus" and "The Outer Limits," on which he and Stevens first collaborated, the greatest technical challenges of his then-fledgling career. "Leslie [who also wrote the script] described it to me as an odd kind of occult film," Hall said. "He wanted it bizarrely lit and visualized. I'm somebody who loves writers, and the film's look is pretty much described in the script. And so you use the visual language to translate the academic language. You just really wail and make it into something otherworldly. We stayed at the Big Sur Inn, and we shot all over the area--by the seashore, the valley, the streams, all manner of places." Despite glowing reviews on the film festival circuit, "Incubus" was a hard sell. "You can imagine," Taylor said. "Everyone else had gone on to other projects, and I'm back in New York [talking to distributors]. They didn't exactly call 911 and ask for me to be taken away, but they looked at me that way." This was just the beginning of the troubles that would plague "Incubus." Call it the "Incubus" curse; it cast a dark shadow not just on the film itself, but also on several of its stars. It manifested itself early at the film's premiere at the San Francisco Film Festival (which was attended by Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate). The print of the film was missing its soundtrack. Taylor was able to substitute another that was being screened for critics. Without even a poster to mark its existence, "Incubus" drifted into obscurity. The film's negative and prints were stored at a Hollywood lab. In 1993, Taylor, considering a resurrection of "Incubus" for video release, was shocked to learn that the lab had lost or destroyed all the materials. "It was heartbreaking," he said. "I had almost forgotten about it, and I didn't know how much potential it had, frankly, but I didn't like the idea of somebody's work being destroyed." Taylor sued and reached a settlement with the lab. Three years later, Taylor received a call from friend and agent Howard Rubin in France. A print of "Incubus" had been located in the Cinematheque Francaise archives. Efforts to get hold of it were stymied by the Cinematheque's insistence that a local film archive vouch for Taylor. Neither the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences nor the American Film Institute would help, according to Taylor. "Six months later, I called UCLA. A guy there said, 'What do I have to do?' The next day, we were all set." Thus began a painstaking restoration process. "The film had been playing [in France] to packed audiences for 20 years," Taylor said. "The print was completely worn out. All the perforations were torn. A frame-by-frame optical negative had to be created. Then, I couldn't get it out of the country because the film was considered a French national treasure." Eventually he got his negative and the Sci-Fi Channel funded further restoration and the creation of a 35-millimeter print, which may go into limited art-house release. Good fortune is not often associated with "Incubus." Several of its stars met with tragic ends. In 1966, Milos Milos, a Yugoslavian actor, murdered Barbara Ann Thompson, Mickey Rooney's estranged fifth wife, and then killed himself. Ann Atmar, who co-stars as Marc's sister, committed suicide soon after completion of the film. The daughter of Eloise Hardt, who portrayed Kia's sister, was kidnapped and murdered. The film's music editor, Dominic Frontiere, was sent to prison after scalping Super Bowl tickets. And Daystar Productions, Stevens' independent production company, went into bankruptcy. (Stevens passed away in 1998.) Taylor is gratified that the film's time seems finally to have come. "Times have changed so much that people really appreciate other kinds of films," he observed. "So I guess they'll be ready for 'Incubus 2.' " Copyright 2001 Los Angeles Times From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Aug 1, 2001 6:44 pm Subject: The Realm of Leslie Stevens In doing some searches on Leslie Stevens, I ran across this website: The Realm of Leslie Stevens http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/9829/incubus/i_ban.html It has a photo of Mr. Stevens and includes links to information and photos on the following productions: Private Property (1959) Hero's Island (1962) Stoney Burke (1962) Mr. Kingston (1963) The Outer Limits (1963) Incubus (1965) One interesting item is that Leslie Stevens founded Daystar Productions in 1959 and that the name references a William Shakespeare allegory to the sun. Don H. From: richard.rutherford@c... Date: Thu Aug 2, 2001 8:47 am Subject: website development John asked for ideas on what should be priorities here. I was one of those who suggested some sounds would be a good idea. I had in mind the kind of funny one-liners that you wouldn't necessarily want to watch an episode to hear again-- like 'You really can pick 'em, Bianco' from 'One of our Probes', or just typical comments like 'Let's not get overstimulated, Lockwood' or Gloria's 'Lie!' comments. But there are lots of ways of doing this. An excellent site which is much more ambitious than we'd need to be is the Star Trek Audio Logs at http://www.stinsv.com/tos.htm (with further pages for the more recent series) But I'd give priority to putting up the rest of the scripts first. @Ends of the Earth' would be esp useful as that is only available in audio form, and it can be hard to follow what's happening in the second half. Different topic entirely: episode titles. Can anyone explain to me what 'The Gold Machine' is supposed to mean? Is this some strange sense of machine I don't know? I can understand that 'The Gold Mine' might be a bit dull, but 'The Gold Caper' or 'Operation Gold Rush' or something else would have made more sense than the title Stevens chose. Star Trek also fell into this kind of meaningless title sometimes--e.g. 'The Paradise Syndrome'. Richard From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Sat Aug 4, 2001 3:42 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] "Search" interest Hello everyone (just cos I’m addressing particular people is no reason for you to ignore the conversation. Please feel free to join in.) Hello Mark (again) I'm neither doom-saying or idea bashing. I'm acting the realist here. Cynthia will correct me if I'm wrong but it's going to take a lot more than fan enthusiasm to get any attention at all. We're all 40-year old adults here, aren't we?? Fine, so let's approach this in ways that will work rather than pie-in-the-sky. Enthusiasm isn't going to be enough here. It's sneaky determination to get people to take an interest that will do the work. 47 people alone simply isn't enough. If you want a strategy, then there are currently two ways to that can gear up interest. One that is under discussion of trying to find a TV channel to take an interest of any sort. The other is to get the 'Search' music heard in a TV themes compilation. It's catchy enough for people to ask where it came from after all. With the latter, I didn't hear any any of the rest of you suggest what could be in a second Spy Themes album. It isn't though it takes much brain power thinking of tracks that were missed in the first one. As long as 'Search' is one them, we'd have achieved the first purpose of it getting recognised. We’d have also done that particular producer the groundwork for themes he missed the first time. From the looks of things, the reason why 'Search' was regarded as a failure was Leslie Stevens apparent defection to another TV company - instigated by Warners pre-emptive firing - & no one with sufficient interest to carry the baton (Cynthia called them 'showrunners'). Had Stevens stayed for a complete season, things might have been different. The problem overall was Warners side-lined it in such a way that interest was minimised in the States although wowing audiences abroad. They didn’t want to make any money for Stevens when it comes down to it. There, we are in agreement: Just how could they do that. I can't remember which of you off the top of my head is friends with Ginny Golden & Angel Tompkins, but can you ask them about their contracts & whether they still have copies we could read?? Hello John the acting man The obvious reason that 'Search' hasn't been repeated is someone put a block from high up on it being repeated. Remember in 'Babylon 5' the guard on Centauri Prime guarding where a royal had a rose centuries after it died out. It's just going to need someone to find who authorised the block & find someone high up enough to get it released. As to other shows, including IPC, it's probably a different sort of contract. The Irwin Allen shows were syndicated as a block. Channel 4 bought the lot for a re-showing. The same probably applies Stateside. With IPC shows, you Americans like our shows so your TV channels know they're onto a good bet selling advertising revenue buying them in. With ‘Search’, emphasis should be made that it’s a detective show with a difference rather than say it’s SF. If the TV companies think it’ll hit the Banacek or Columbo audience, they might stir a different interest route. Hello Jim Alexander I was being a tad sarcastic about 'Star Trek'. The real driving force behind the original Trek was the late great Gene Coon. Given the choice, I'd rather see a repeat of the original 'Search' series before seeing a new series even considered. By the by, as the Unicorn video of 'Probe' is available in the US, does that mean the pilot episode isn't under the same ban as the series?? One of the reasons we get to see 'Probe' occasionally is because its syndicated with other 70s 90 minute episodes. Does such an action happen your side of the Atlantic?? Just thinking aloud here but a re-showing on your domestic channels could shoot some interest. While we're on Unicorn, has anyone bothered to query them about the possibilities of them getting the series to circulate?? For that to have any bearing, it would be interesting to know what their sales figures are like for the pilot, wouldn't it?? [Now that, Mark, is constructive thinking.] Hello Richard Re: Soundbites. There's so much good banter. I still love Gloria watching Ullie going to see her mother saying 'Long, lingering view of Miss Ullman's legs as Probe's eyeballs fall out.' A sentence that says so much about Harding knowing Lockwood's preferences. If Bryan's experimentation with DVD comes off, it should be possible to link across the software & snaffle dialogue. I can give some clue to Trek's 'The Paradise Syndrome' title though. You get so enamoured by paradise that you'd rather live in it than the real world. It's something similar to why the crew mutineered & left the Bounty. Paradise was preferable to going home on a ship on a poor diet & duty went out the window. Personally, I think Kirk had too easy a time as once he was elected medicine man he wasn't sent off hunting. As to 'The Gold Machine'. It would have been too big a giveaway to have called it 'The Gold Mine'. Incidentally, is the Arthur Burrell in this episode the same actor as the Probe agent in 'One Of Our Probes Is Missing'?? Store it. End transmission. Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE *************************************************** From: actingman@i... Date: Sat Aug 4, 2001 5:19 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] "Search" interest They may have been a block over there, but here the Irwin Allen shows were sold individually. At one point, Tunnel was on channel 9, Lost In Space on channel 5, and Voyage on channel 11. I don't remember if they did it back then, or when they started, but I remember in the 80's starting to see groups of shows with few episodes each sold under an umbrella package so they could be "stripped" (run five times a week.) One such show was "It's A Living", and it did well enough in the ratings that it was brought back in first run syndication and ran for several years. Today they are even putting shows into such packages that have enough episodes for syndication, and in fact were in successful syndication for many years. I was very surprised to see along with one season Gidget and two seasons The Monkees in the Screen Gems umbrella the five year hit I Dream Of Jeannie, and the (was it seven or eight year?) hit Bewitched. Times change, the market changes, the possibilities and the limitations change. I remember reading at one point that it was very hard to syndicate one hour shows...there just wasn't a demand for them...at least not as much demand as for half hour shows. Now with the different cable networks I suspect that has changed...from my TV Guide listings it looks like it has changed. Regarding the Search pilot. It has been my deduction over the years that pilots that are made as "TV movies" and air the season before are individual works, and that's why you never see them sold with the shows they spawned. Separate contracts, deals, etc. So they end up being sold as movies in a package. Fame Is The Name Of The Game and Ironside are two examples that come to mind. I've seen those pilots air on one channel while the shows reran on different channels. Since the pilot was a separate deal (again my speculation on how things work) it was dealt with separately and therefore not effected by the ban. It's also possible they never even thought about it. It's possible that NBC still had some ownership issues with the show, so it got restricted here, and forgotten about. I read somewhere that one of the things that stopped Sports Night from going to HBO was ABC still had something to say about it, and they delayed the deal from happening, so HBO finally pulled out (a damn shame...Sports Night on HBO would have been something to see...and Sorkin could have scheduled it in between seasons of West Wing...oh well...tv continues to kill all my favorites...just as it always has.) Yes, my Search pipe dream is to someday convince someone in Warners Distribution to look at the restriction and question it, and discover that it is no longer necessary. That's why I wrote previously that if anybody ever has a chance at a programming convention, or in tinsel town, or on letterhead, or as a writer of a professional publication, to ask them if the show is available, and if not why not...that one in a million chance you might cause someone to wonder and question the restriction. At 03:42 PM 8/4/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Hello John the acting man > The obvious reason that 'Search' hasn't been repeated is someone > put a >block from high up on it being repeated. Remember in 'Babylon 5' the guard >on Centauri Prime guarding where a royal had a rose centuries after it died >out. It's just going to need someone to find who authorised the block & find >someone high up enough to get it released. > As to other shows, including IPC, it's probably a different sort of >contract. The Irwin Allen shows were syndicated as a block. Channel 4 bought >the lot for a re-showing. The same probably applies Stateside. With IPC >shows, you Americans like our shows so your TV channels know they're onto a >good bet selling advertising revenue buying them in. With 'Search', emphasis >should be made that it's a detective show with a difference rather than say >it's SF. If the TV companies think it'll hit the Banacek or Columbo >audience, they might stir a different interest route. > > > By the by, as the Unicorn video of 'Probe' is available in the > US, does >that mean the pilot episode isn't under the same ban as the series?? One of >the reasons we get to see 'Probe' occasionally is because its syndicated >with other 70s 90 minute episodes. Does such an action happen your side of >the Atlantic?? Just thinking aloud here but a re-showing on your domestic >channels could shoot some interest. While we're on Unicorn, has anyone >bothered to query them about the possibilities of them getting the series to >circulate?? For that to have any bearing, it would be interesting to know >what their sales figures are like for the pilot, wouldn't it?? [Now that, >Mark, is constructive thinking.] From: DBoysen@a... Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 1:42 am Subject: Stage Number? This is kind of off-the-wall, but I don't suppose anyone has an old call-sheet or some other form of SEARCH memorabilia that shows the stage number at WB where Probe Control was filmed? From: Jim Alexander Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 3:19 am Subject: "Search" interest actingman@iname.com wrote: Yes, my Search pipe dream is to someday convince someone in Warners Distribution to look at the restriction and question it, and discover that it is no longer necessary. That's why I wrote previously that if anybody ever has a chance at a programming convention, or in tinsel town, or on letterhead, or as a writer of a professional publication, to ask them if the show is available, and if not why not...that one in a million chance you might cause someone to wonder and question the restriction. --------------------------------- Agreed, John. I think that seems to be a good way to go. Now-- we just need to look for avenues on how to go about it. I'll keep my eyes peeled, and my Thinking Cap on! Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: Marta Dawes Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 1:37 pm Subject: HTML messages What the heck were those HTML messages from Larry Clements in my mailbox this morning? They kept crashing my machine, and I've got a very up-to-date PC that shouldn't crash with HTML. Was anyone able to read them? -- Marta "The Graveyards of Omaha" http://members.nbci.com/martadawes "The New Twilight Zone" http://members.nbci.com/newtwilzone Help us save the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world! Join the Cinerama and Widescreen Movie Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 3:56 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] HTML messages & musical soundttracks Hello everyone Hello Marta Well, I saw all the pages that Larry Clements sent although I suspect he's going to clog up a lot of email space sending such big files. What's your spec, Marta?? It might be the size of these files hit a time out in your connection or your email space got overloaded. Hello Larry Clements No disrepect, Larry, but all you really needed to have done is either copy out the relevant section - if you see the number of attachments, it wouldn't have taken long to remove the unnecessary ones - or just told us where to look & why. Then again, I also find it a pain why people include previous email messages when all it really needs is a Re: subjectmatter to remind everyone else what subject we're on. I assume everyone else downloads these messages to read off-line afterall or am I the only one doing this. Oh, I had a more than serious look at that Secret Agent File CD list yesterday. Considering how much of it was Bond music, there's a good argument for a better selection for a second volume. What about the films: 'Cleopatra Jones' - someone called Dominic Frontiere did the soundtrack & 'Fatal Beauty' - all right so Whoopi Goldberg was an undercover cop but its pretty close & a memorable soundtrack. That's 7 tracks. Get your thinking caps on, probes & probettes. end transmission Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE *************************************************** From: Marta Dawes Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 5:01 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] HTML messages & musical soundttracks I also can't access them from the Yahoo groups site message area; it says "server hangup" on all 4 of them. I'm on a cable modem, and have no problem with any other sites or links. Has anyone else been able to pull them up? Marta Geoff Willmetts wrote: > > Hello everyone > Hello Marta > Well, I saw all the pages that Larry Clements sent although I suspect he's > going to clog up a lot of email space sending such big files. > What's your spec, Marta?? It might be the size of these files hit a time > out in your connection or your email space got overloaded. > > Hello Larry Clements > No disrepect, Larry, but all you really needed to have done is either copy > out the relevant section - if you see the number of attachments, it wouldn't > have taken long to remove the unnecessary ones - or just told us where to > look & why. > Then again, I also find it a pain why people include previous email > messages when all it really needs is a Re: subjectmatter to remind everyone > else what subject we're on. I assume everyone else downloads these messages > to read off-line afterall or am I the only one doing this. > > Oh, I had a more than serious look at that Secret Agent File CD list > yesterday. Considering how much of it was Bond music, there's a good > argument for a better selection for a second volume. > What about the films: 'Cleopatra Jones' - someone called Dominic Frontiere > did the soundtrack & 'Fatal Beauty' - all right so Whoopi Goldberg was an > undercover cop but its pretty close & a memorable soundtrack. That's 7 > tracks. Get your thinking caps on, probes & probettes. > > end transmission > Geoff Willmetts > > ********* GF Willmetts **************************** > > Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com > THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER > > Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com > THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE > > *************************************************** > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Marta "The Graveyards of Omaha" http://members.nbci.com/martadawes "The New Twilight Zone" http://members.nbci.com/newtwilzone Help us save the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world! Join the Cinerama and Widescreen Movie Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: Bryan Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 8:36 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] HTML messages Marta, I was able to open them just fine. > What the heck were those HTML messages from Larry Clements in my mailbox > this morning? They kept crashing my machine, and I've got a very > up-to-date PC that shouldn't crash with HTML. Was anyone able to read > them? > -- > Marta From: actingman@i... Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 10:00 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] HTML messages As was I. My email program is set to display HTML so it displayed the whole page within the confines of the email message. Maybe it's safer to just put links into messages so people can surf to them as they are able. But Larry meant well. One page was the IMDB listing for Search, and another was the listing for Probe, a third was a site that lists a lot of shows and then gives opinions on the shows as if it were fact, and the fourth was, I think, a continuation of the IMDB page of Search. At 01:36 PM 8/5/2001 -0700, you wrote >Marta, I was able to open them just fine. > > > What the heck were those HTML messages from Larry Clements in my mailbox > > this morning? They kept crashing my machine, and I've got a very > > up-to-date PC that shouldn't crash with HTML. Was anyone able to read > > them? > > -- > > Marta From: Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 10:06 pm Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /TV Guide 1969.jpg Uploaded by : actingman@i... Description : Sunday night NYC listing showing the old style of the listings, a new episode of Land Of The Giants, and a rerun of Time Tunnel. You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/TV%20Guide%201969.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, actingman@i... From: Marta Dawes Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 10:48 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] HTML messages Mine is set up that way, too, so this is doubly puzzling. I have had no problem with any other html messages for the last 3 years; but all 4 of those emails will not come up and just freeze my browser. Marta actingman@i... wrote: > > As was I. My email program is set to display HTML so it displayed the > whole page within the confines of the email message. > > Maybe it's safer to just put links into messages so people can surf to them > as they are able. > > But Larry meant well. > > One page was the IMDB listing for Search, and another was the listing for > Probe, a third was a site that lists a lot of shows and then gives opinions > on the shows as if it were fact, and the fourth was, I think, a > continuation of the IMDB page of Search. > > At 01:36 PM 8/5/2001 -0700, you wrote > >Marta, I was able to open them just fine. > > > > > What the heck were those HTML messages from Larry Clements in my mailbox > > > this morning? They kept crashing my machine, and I've got a very > > > up-to-date PC that shouldn't crash with HTML. Was anyone able to read > > > them? > > > -- > > > Marta > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Marta "The Graveyards of Omaha" http://members.nbci.com/martadawes "The New Twilight Zone" http://members.nbci.com/newtwilzone Help us save the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world! Join the Cinerama and Widescreen Movie Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: Marta Dawes Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 10:52 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] New file uploaded to probe_control Oddly enough, that page also had a listing for "The New Adventures of Huck Finn," a series that had even less episodes made (20) than "Search," and is even harder to find. I've been trying to find any of the eps for years, and it was neat to see the listing. Thanks! Marta probe_control@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > Hello, > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control > group. > > File : /TV Guide 1969.jpg > Uploaded by : actingman@i... > Description : Sunday night NYC listing showing the old style of the listings, a new episode of Land Of The Giants, and a rerun of Time Tunnel. > > You can access this file at the URL > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/TV%20Guide%201969.jpg > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit > > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files > > Regards, > > actingman@i... > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Marta "The Graveyards of Omaha" http://members.nbci.com/martadawes "The New Twilight Zone" http://members.nbci.com/newtwilzone Help us save the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world! Join the Cinerama and Widescreen Movie Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: Bryan Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 11:38 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] HTML messages Actually the fourth was the IMDB listing for Probe >> One page was the IMDB listing for Search, and another was the listing for >> Probe, a third was a site that lists a lot of shows and then gives opinions >> on the shows as if it were fact, and the fourth was, I think, a >> continuation of the IMDB page of Search. From: actingman@i... Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 11:34 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] HTML messages Very strange...and a shame too, since I failed to mention in my previous post that of course one of the elements in what he sent is the review you wrote. At 05:48 PM 8/5/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Mine is set up that way, too, so this is doubly puzzling. I have had no >problem with any other html messages for the last 3 years; but all 4 of >those emails will not come up and just freeze my browser. > >Marta From: actingman@i... Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 11:38 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] New file uploaded to probe_control I use to watch that show when it was originally on. I also remember that they stuck it in a package with something else to get some reruns out of it...can't for the life of me remember what it was...but I did see it in reruns as well. At 05:52 PM 8/5/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Oddly enough, that page also had a listing for "The New Adventures of >Huck Finn," a series that had even less episodes made (20) than >"Search," and is even harder to find. I've been trying to find any of >the eps for years, and it was neat to see the listing. Thanks! > >Marta From: Marta Dawes Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 11:46 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] New file uploaded to probe_control It was rerun on the "Banana Splits Adventure Hour." "Danger Island," with a very young Jan Michael Vincent, was also shown on it, along with Hillbilly Bears, The Arabian Knights, The Three Musketeers, The Micro Ventures, and The Adventures Of Gulliver. Marta actingman@i... wrote: > > I use to watch that show when it was originally on. I also remember that > they stuck it in a package with something else to get some reruns out of > it...can't for the life of me remember what it was...but I did see it in > reruns as well. > > At 05:52 PM 8/5/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Oddly enough, that page also had a listing for "The New Adventures of > >Huck Finn," a series that had even less episodes made (20) than > >"Search," and is even harder to find. I've been trying to find any of > >the eps for years, and it was neat to see the listing. Thanks! > > > >Marta > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Marta "The Graveyards of Omaha" http://members.nbci.com/martadawes "The New Twilight Zone" http://members.nbci.com/newtwilzone Help us save the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world! Join the Cinerama and Widescreen Movie Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: actingman@i... Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 11:54 pm Subject: OT Source for Japanese Laser/DVD? Not that I am in any position to buy any, but... I use to have a seller that would send out emails with updates that included Japanese laser disks and DVDs. So I could at least be amazed by the American shows that get released in their entirety over there. The seller has stopped selling Japanese disks. Anybody have a good mail order place here in the U.S. that carries them, and also sends out updates on new titles over there? Always a possibility they may rerelease old shows on dvd that they previously sold on laser...as they have done here. From: Marta Dawes Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 11:55 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] HTML messages Well, that doesn't need to blasted all over the internet; I wasn't in top form that day. ;-) It's too bad IMDB doesn't allow you to update your reviews, since there are a few things I'd change in a lot of them. Marta actingman@i... wrote: > > Very strange...and a shame too, since I failed to mention in my previous > post that of course one of the elements in what he sent is the review you > wrote. > > At 05:48 PM 8/5/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Mine is set up that way, too, so this is doubly puzzling. I have had no > >problem with any other html messages for the last 3 years; but all 4 of > >those emails will not come up and just freeze my browser. > > > >Marta > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Marta "The Graveyards of Omaha" http://members.nbci.com/martadawes "The New Twilight Zone" http://members.nbci.com/newtwilzone Help us save the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world! Join the Cinerama and Widescreen Movie Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: actingman@i... Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 11:55 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] New file uploaded to probe_control Yes! That is where I saw it in reruns. At 06:46 PM 8/5/2001 -0500, you wrote: >It was rerun on the "Banana Splits Adventure Hour." "Danger Island," >with a very young Jan Michael Vincent, was also shown on it, along with >Hillbilly Bears, The Arabian >Knights, The Three Musketeers, The Micro Ventures, and The Adventures Of >Gulliver. > >Marta From: Marta Dawes Date: Sun Aug 5, 2001 11:59 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] OT Source for Japanese Laser/DVD? The only one I know of is Sight and Sound in Massachusetts (link below), and I'm not even sure they are making many LD's any more, even in Japan. http://www.tiac.net/users/amadeus/index.html Marta actingman@i... wrote: > > Not that I am in any position to buy any, but... > > I use to have a seller that would send out emails with updates that > included Japanese laser disks and DVDs. So I could at least be amazed by > the American shows that get released in their entirety over there. > > The seller has stopped selling Japanese disks. > > Anybody have a good mail order place here in the U.S. that carries them, > and also sends out updates on new titles over there? > > Always a possibility they may rerelease old shows on dvd that they > previously sold on laser...as they have done here. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Marta "The Graveyards of Omaha" http://members.nbci.com/martadawes "The New Twilight Zone" http://members.nbci.com/newtwilzone Help us save the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world! Join the Cinerama and Widescreen Movie Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: Jim Alexander Date: Mon Aug 6, 2001 12:05 am Subject: HTML messages Marta Dawes wrote: What the heck were those HTML messages from Larry Clements in my mailbox this morning? They kept crashing my machine, and I've got a very up-to-date PC that shouldn't crash with HTML. Was anyone able to read them? -- Marta ---------------------------------- Ditto, here. From what I could tell -- they were IMDB (Internet Movie Database) pages re: SEARCH. Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: Jim Alexander Date: Mon Aug 6, 2001 12:34 am Subject: Whoops Sorry-- My e-mail server is spitting up chunks of mail (a day late). I responded to Marta's letter before I got the follow-ups. My apologies. Jim probecontrol@dynasty.net ------------------------- Jim Alexander wrote: Marta Dawes wrote: What the heck were those HTML messages from Larry Clements in my mailbox this morning? They kept crashing my machine, and I've got a very up-to-date PC that shouldn't crash with HTML. Was anyone able to read them? -- Marta ---------------------------------- Ditto, here. From what I could tell -- they were IMDB (Internet Movie Database) pages re: SEARCH. Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: "Kenneth Carroll" Date: Mon Aug 6, 2001 1:19 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] New file uploaded to probe_control Wow, that was neat seeing that! Brings back good memories. Twelve O' Clock High is another fave of mine. That's amazing, there was more to watch on that one section of TV Guide than a whole weeks worth with 50 channels now! Go figure! I remember as a kid in 69, we always watched Land of the Giants on ABC on Sunday night, then FBI came on after that. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: [probe_control] New file uploaded to probe_control > > Hello, > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control > group. > > File : /TV Guide 1969.jpg > Uploaded by : actingman@i... > Description : Sunday night NYC listing showing the old style of the listings, a new episode of Land Of The Giants, and a rerun of Time Tunnel. > > You can access this file at the URL > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/TV%20Guide%201969.jpg > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit > > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files > > Regards, > > actingman@i... From: Linfoot@b... Date: Mon Aug 6, 2001 6:08 pm Subject: Interesting Site Hi Everyone, has anybody come across www.globalspy.com ? An interesting site, could it be a real life World Wide Securities ?! Paul Linfoot From: Linfoot@b... Date: Mon Aug 6, 2001 6:13 pm Subject: Re Previous Sorry, slip of the brain, of course I mean World Securities Corp. Paul From: michael beacom Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 5:05 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] HTML messages They crashed mine too -- and likewise re HTML. Michael B. Marta Dawes wrote: > What the heck were those HTML messages from Larry Clements in my mailbox > this morning? They kept crashing my machine, and I've got a very > up-to-date PC that shouldn't crash with HTML. Was anyone able to read > them? > -- > Marta > > "The Graveyards of Omaha" > http://members.nbci.com/martadawes > > "The New Twilight Zone" > http://members.nbci.com/newtwilzone > > Help us save the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska > The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world! > Join the Cinerama and Widescreen Movie Discussion Group > http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies > > Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group > http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: "Mark Wilson" Date: Tue Aug 7, 2001 8:30 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] "Search" interest Geoff, You make me laugh and laugh! Thanks for the very humorous and interesting commentary. --Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Willmetts" To: Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [probe_control] "Search" interest > Hello everyone (just cos I'm addressing particular people is no reason for > you to ignore the conversation. Please feel free to join in.) > Hello Mark (again) > > I'm neither doom-saying or idea bashing. I'm acting the realist here. > Cynthia will correct me if I'm wrong but it's going to take a lot more than > fan enthusiasm to get any attention at all. We're all 40-year old adults > here, aren't we?? Fine, so let's approach this in ways that will work rather > than pie-in-the-sky. Enthusiasm isn't going to be enough here. It's sneaky > determination to get people to take an interest that will do the work. > > 47 people alone simply isn't enough. If you want a strategy, then there are > currently two ways to that can gear up interest. One that is under > discussion of trying to find a TV channel to take an interest of any sort. > The other is to get the 'Search' music heard in a TV themes compilation. > It's catchy enough for people to ask where it came from after all. With the > latter, I didn't hear any any of the rest of you suggest what could be in a > second Spy Themes album. It isn't though it takes much brain power thinking > of tracks that were missed in the first one. As long as 'Search' is one > them, we'd have achieved the first purpose of it getting recognised. We'd > have also done that particular producer the groundwork for themes he missed > the first time. > > From the looks of things, the reason why 'Search' was regarded as a failure > was Leslie Stevens apparent defection to another TV company - instigated by > Warners pre-emptive firing - & no one with sufficient interest to carry the > baton (Cynthia called them 'showrunners'). Had Stevens stayed for a complete > season, things might have been different. The problem overall was Warners > side-lined it in such a way that interest was minimised in the States > although wowing audiences abroad. They didn't want to make any money for > Stevens when it comes down to it. > There, we are in agreement: Just how could they do that. I can't remember > which of you off the top of my head is friends with Ginny Golden & Angel > Tompkins, but can you ask them about their contracts & whether they still > have copies we could read?? > > Hello John the acting man > The obvious reason that 'Search' hasn't been repeated is someone put a > block from high up on it being repeated. Remember in 'Babylon 5' the guard > on Centauri Prime guarding where a royal had a rose centuries after it died > out. It's just going to need someone to find who authorised the block & find > someone high up enough to get it released. > As to other shows, including IPC, it's probably a different sort of > contract. The Irwin Allen shows were syndicated as a block. Channel 4 bought > the lot for a re-showing. The same probably applies Stateside. With IPC > shows, you Americans like our shows so your TV channels know they're onto a > good bet selling advertising revenue buying them in. With 'Search', emphasis > should be made that it's a detective show with a difference rather than say > it's SF. If the TV companies think it'll hit the Banacek or Columbo > audience, they might stir a different interest route. > > Hello Jim Alexander > I was being a tad sarcastic about 'Star Trek'. The real driving force > behind the original Trek was the late great Gene Coon. Given the choice, I'd > rather see a repeat of the original 'Search' series before seeing a new > series even considered. > > By the by, as the Unicorn video of 'Probe' is available in the US, does > that mean the pilot episode isn't under the same ban as the series?? One of > the reasons we get to see 'Probe' occasionally is because its syndicated > with other 70s 90 minute episodes. Does such an action happen your side of > the Atlantic?? Just thinking aloud here but a re-showing on your domestic > channels could shoot some interest. While we're on Unicorn, has anyone > bothered to query them about the possibilities of them getting the series to > circulate?? For that to have any bearing, it would be interesting to know > what their sales figures are like for the pilot, wouldn't it?? [Now that, > Mark, is constructive thinking.] > > Hello Richard > Re: Soundbites. There's so much good banter. I still love Gloria watching > Ullie going to see her mother saying 'Long, lingering view of Miss Ullman's > legs as Probe's eyeballs fall out.' A sentence that says so much about > Harding knowing Lockwood's preferences. > > If Bryan's experimentation with DVD comes off, it should be possible to > link across the software & snaffle dialogue. > > I can give some clue to Trek's 'The Paradise Syndrome' title though. You > get so enamoured by paradise that you'd rather live in it than the real > world. It's something similar to why the crew mutineered & left the Bounty. > Paradise was preferable to going home on a ship on a poor diet & duty went > out the window. Personally, I think Kirk had too easy a time as once he was > elected medicine man he wasn't sent off hunting. > As to 'The Gold Machine'. It would have been too big a giveaway to have > called it 'The Gold Mine'. Incidentally, is the Arthur Burrell in this > episode the same actor as the Probe agent in 'One Of Our Probes Is > Missing'?? > > Store it. End transmission. > > Geoff Willmetts > > ********* GF Willmetts **************************** > > Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com > THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER > > Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com > THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE > > *************************************************** From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 5:22 pm Subject: Re: HTML messages The HTML files did not crash my computer, but they did take a minute or so to load because of the large number of images. Somehow the email truncated the images to about half, that is, only some 50 out of 100 images showed up when the email finished downloading. For historical reasons, it's okay that those pages are stored here. Who knows what will happen in the future? Pages can disappear or radically alter their appearance. The thing is, we have put up links to all these things on this mailing list in the past. I posted a number of links to the IMDB just recently. With upwards of 900 posts now, it can be difficult for newbies to know what all we have covered in the past few years. The other thing is that there isn't that much on the Internet pertaining to SEARCH to begin with. Folks might want to use the "Search Archive" feature to see what has been said about these pages on this list. You can even search for portions of referenced Internet addresses. For example, I almost started a small flame war last year when I made reference to the 'Ultimate SF' page listing SEARCH. If you follow the thread (starting with message 134 to 144), you'll see how it ended up. Don H. --- In probe_control@y..., michael beacom wrote: > They crashed mine too -- and likewise re HTML. > > Michael B. > > Marta Dawes wrote: > > > What the heck were those HTML messages from Larry Clements in my mailbox > > this morning? They kept crashing my machine, and I've got a very > > up-to-date PC that shouldn't crash with HTML. Was anyone able to read > > them? > > -- > > Marta From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 8:18 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] "Search" - everything done in threes?? Hello everyone Something John the acting man said, hit an unusual chord. Has 'The Name Of The Game' been repeated in the US?? It has a lot in common with 'Search' - 3 actors in rotation as well as Leslie Stevens. Maybe Warner think rotating stars isn't a good selling point?? It would scupper ideas of a conspiracy on one hand. On the other hand, it could also be used, assuming it was repeated, that 'Search' might fare well. Any thoughts, Cynthia?? Hello Jim Alexander This is only a suggestion, but if your server is playing silly buggers with the order you receive email, you could always relay or pick up the messages through a different one. Another on the other hand here. A couple years back, I accidentally pressed the wrong screen button & turned all my emails into alphabetical order without realising it & thought it was something that hotmail had done. It's as well to check bearing in mind how quickly emails are distributed that you haven’t done anything else to the format. As to Gene Coon. He was more than story editor. He wrote a lot of season 1 & 2 scripts under pseudonyms as well. Incidentally, there are some parallels between Roddenberry & Bruce Geller over at 'Mission: Impossible'. Although Geller came up with the idea wrote the pilot that was all he really did on the series. The rest was left in other hands. Transmission ends Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE *************************************************** From: Cynthia_Hargraves@P... Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 9:12 pm Subject: Hi Everyone I'll give informational comments on this since it is in my own back yard. On the Name of The Game, I believe Leslie had something to do with the show. Now guys, step into the way back machine. At the time there were shows like the the NBC Mystery Movies,that had four rotating stars. Back in the seventies it wasn't unusal to see that. Were as now, it doesn't happen. The Name of the Game was reruned in New York over 10 to 15 years ago. I haven't seen it since. As for Gene Coon,as well as Rodenberry, Misson Impossible, Star Trek, and Mannix were all on the same lot- at the time Desilu Studios. Which is now Paramount. Lucille Ball sold these shows to Paramount in the late 60's, notice the logo change. Gene and everyone else for that matter, saw everyone on a regular basis. Notice how the stars of Trek went to Mission. i.e. Leonard Nimoy (same turf). I pass these stages every day on the way out of the lot. They are very close to each other. Contrary to what people see the buildings on the lots and Hollywood are quite small. With Lucy and Desi as studio heads, they hire writers and they could shift them around or give them a break to do better stuff. Oh, FYI, it was Lucy who helped developed the original Mission Impossible and Star Trek. Writers at the time were writers for hire, so they could work on any show in the studio. Cynthia From: Jim Alexander Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 11:12 pm Subject: OT: Jim Alexander-- The final whine Geoff Willmetts wrote: Hello Jim Alexander >... This is only a suggestion, but if your server is playing silly buggers with the order you receive email, you could always relay or pick up the messages through a different one. ---------------------------------- Yes, Geoff-- It's not really been the "order" in which I receive mail-- it's been whether I've had the ability to receive and send AT ALL. It's been really intermittent of late. I guess I have whined about it plenty on the list (even before you joined the SEARCH eGroups list). My ISP has been really poor of late. When I first signed on, they were EXCELLENT, but the owner sold to another company, and then the service went to the dogs. Y'see-- I have a complimentary, one year subscription to 'Dynasty Online' because my wife used to work there-- and I've been too cheap-- even with all the problems that I've been experiencing-- to've move my service somewhere else (I'd rather spend my money on TOYS and whine about how bad my ISP is). ;) However-- all that is about to change. My 'freebie' subscription is running out soon. So, sometime in the next month, I expect to write the list and let y'all know my 'new' e-mail address. I expect it will be probecontrol@sigecom.net, but that has yet to be determined. Thanks, Geoff! Jim probecontrol@dynasty.net From: Date: Wed Aug 8, 2001 11:57 pm Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /14 - A Honeymoon to Kill/14342bk4.jpg Uploaded by : dghprobe3@a... Description : C. R. Grover (Doug McClure) & Carla on bikes. You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/14%20-%20A%20Honeymoon%20to%20\ Kill/14342bk4.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, dghprobe3@a... From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Aug 9, 2001 12:27 am Subject: Re: Hi Everyone --- In probe_control@y..., Cynthia_Hargraves@P... wrote: > Notice how the stars of Trek went to Mission. i.e. Leonard > Nimoy (same turf). I pass these stages every day on the way out of > the lot. They are very close to each other. Contrary to what > people see the buildings on the lots and Hollywood are quite small. Cynthia is correct on the above. Folks might want to see if they can find or rent the "Inside Star Trek" companion video to the book written by Herbert Solow and Robert Justman. The video includes shots of the Paramount (formerly Desilu) buildings and soundstages showing how close together everything is. Beyond that, it is an interesting video which also includes interview footage of Star Trek co-producer Bob Justman, the initial line producer for SEARCH. Don H. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Aug 9, 2001 5:04 am Subject: online source for SEARCH scripts Hi folks: Here's an interesting one. There is an online source for actual SEARCH scripts. It's "Script City" and all their contact information is below. Before anyone goes any further, I would email them and confirm whether or not their scripts are mimeographed originals as opposed to simply xerox copies. The implication is that these are originals. The other thing to find out is what draft each script is. And do they differ from the Lincoln Enterprises versions? The Lincoln ones usually were "final draft" scripts. For folks who want their own hard copies of SEARCH scripts, this may be a source to consider, but note that they only have four episodes available. SCRIPT CITY'S updated television script section! $9.99 each except where otherwise noted Click here for Ordering Instructions http://www.scriptcity.net/indexflash.html http://www.scriptcity.net/tvs.html SEARCH 1 (2hr PILOT) PROBE - $19.95 3 ONE OF OUR PROBES IS MISSING 9 IN SEARCH OF MIDAS 22 ENDS OF THE EARTH SCRIPT CITY 8033 Sunset Blvd. Suite 1500 - Hollywood, Ca. - 90046 U.S.A. only: 800-676-2522 Worldwide: 818-764-4120 Fax: 818-764-4132 Got Questions? - E-mail Us From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Aug 9, 2001 7:39 am Subject: Warner Bros customer service In looking over the Warner Bros. website, I did some searches and was able to find nothing at all about "Search." However, I did run across their customer service page where people can pose questions or comments. They promise to answer, so I sent them an email asking about "Search." Below is the link to Warner Bros. customer service and under that is the email I sent to them. If I hear anything, I'll pass it along. :-) Don H. http://www.warnerbros.com/pages/help/help_feedback.jsp >>>>>Hi: Don here and I remember that Warner Bros. produced a series for NBC-TV during 1972-73 called "Search." It starred Hugh O'Brian, Tony Franciosa and Doug McClure as private investigators of the future. Does Warner still have the series in it's vaults and are they planning to release it to U.S. or foreign markets, cable or video/DVD? The pilot movie, called "Probe", is currently available from Unicorn Video, so I was wondering about the rest of the series. Any help or information you can give would be much appreciated. Thank you also for providing WB fans a terrific website. :-) Don<<<<< From: Len_S@b... Date: Thu Aug 9, 2001 12:13 pm Subject: Re: OT: 4 Star Trek shows banned by BBC during 80s I think I'm right in saying that all 4 of these have now been shown in the UK and, as a recent (supposedly complete) rerun of Trek Classic has just begun, will probably be shown again. Miri was screened once before the decision to ban it, and it's possible that complaints about it caused them to review (& ban) 3 others. The Empath was originally banned, I believe, because of excessive violence (or blood), Plato's Stepchildren because of an interracial kiss (not to mention Spock's bondage gear & whip), and Whom Gods Destroy I think was violence again, possibly where Yvonne (Batgirl) Craig gets blown up. Hey, I'm doing this from memory so I may be way off! They were all available uncut on video here long before the decision to finally screen them on TV was made. There was also a Next Generation episode banned because of an IRA reference (which they could simply have cut - they used to cut many "violence moments" from ST:TNG). This has still not been shown, although I believe is available on video. > > At 11:07 PM 8/1/00 +0000, you wrote: > > >Does anyone know whether or not there was any follow-up on this > >story? Did the BBC change their minds on those four episodes in > >later years? Or did Paramount edit them to make them more acceptable? > > > >Don > >dghprobe3@a... From: Cynthia_Hargraves@P... Date: Thu Aug 9, 2001 8:17 pm Subject: Script City Hi, Since Script City is in Hollywood. It'a local I gave them a call. They are only mail order. Their Sunset address is for mailing. They only have four. The Pilot - Probe $14.00 Final Draft Ends of the Earth - January 26th,1973 Final Draft Touch of Midas - July 19, 1972 Final Draft One of Our Probes Junw 22, 1972 Final Draft The hour long scripts are $10.00 They are not the originals. There are several script stores in Hollywood that sell scripts. Some stores sell different ones. It depends on what is available. They get them from the studios. They have the originals, or a very good copy and make copies from them to sell. Cynthia From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Aug 11, 2001 5:33 am Subject: Variety Review of SEARCH - Sept. 20, 1972 Variety Review of SEARCH - Sept. 20, 1972 SEARCH, with Hugh O'Brian, Burgess Meredith, Angel Tompkins, Maurice Evans. Exec. Producer: Leslie Stevens Producer: Robert H. Justman Director: Russ Mayberry Writer: Stevens 60 Mins., Wed. 10 p.m. PARTICIPATING NBC-TV The plot premise for this rotating trio of actioners sounds like a parody of every gimmick sleuth show ever made: a private op with a transmitter inlaid in his tooth and a receiver implanted in his ear through which a central control monitors his operations. Incredible as it may seem, Hugh O'Brian, who will hold forth every other week, almost made the premise plausible in this opener. The grand plan for the series calls for O'Brian twice a month and Tony Franciosa and Doug McClure to star on each of the other weeks. O'Brian, as Hugh Lockwood, will be the chance-taker, Franciosa will be the brainy detective and McClure will be the beach bum called in when the going is rough. Once past the extraordinary concept of Hugh O'Brian talking to boss Burgess Meredith at h. q. through his tooth, this preemer had the earmarks of a slick drama in the continental operative genre. O'Brian handles this sort of lightweight scripting with a bravura style that often elevates the show above its own material. Burgess Meredith looks appropriately dour and omniscient as the head of mission control, and Angel Tompkins is cute as the medical monitor emotionally involved with her subjects. Despite the able acting of the primary crew, the intrigue of the control gimmicks and a casually brilliant guest supporting role by Maurice Evans, "Search" had best look for more solid scripts in the future. This one, although cloaked in the highjinks of international bureaucrats, was based on the tired routine of the poker game run crookedly by observers looking through holes in the ceiling. Even before it happened in real life several years ago, the gimmick had been done time and again in various fictive forms. In Julie Andrews and "Cannon," "Search" is up against some heavy hitters in its timeslot. The three principals in the series have had a lot of TV exposure, and whether this works for or against them vis-à-vis the fresher shows on the other webs will depend increasingly on the quality and freshness of the teleplays. If the series, per form, has started out with what it considers one of its brighter scripts, is is likely to be in trouble in short order. Mor. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:48 am Subject: Variety Tele Follow-up Comment on SEARCH - Oct. 4, 1972 Variety Tele Follow-up Comment on SEARCH - Oct. 4, 1972 SEARCH The preem efforts of Tony Franciosa and Doug McClure as separate rotating stars (with the pilot's Hugh O'Brian) aired as the second and third episodes of "Search," with each bringing a flavor of his own to the skein - which may or may not be for the better. O'Brian is cast as an ex-astronaut, a posture that suggests a discipline and a stature compatible with top-level international hi-jinks. Franciosa's character, as revealed, was far more mundane, inclined to wheedle with underworld sleazy types and quick (too quick) to solve his problems with a punch in the face. McClure is even further down the hero scale, represented as a surfing beach bum who blunders through despite a forgetful memory. Latter approach is supposedly for laughs. The change in focus from straight national-import threats being solved with the aid of electronic gimmickry devices, does not, so far, seem in the best interests of the series' rating future, slotted as it is at 10 p.m. at night when the younger kids have been dispatched to bed. Both Franciosa and McClure play their parts with an eye for the ladies, which presumably makes the skein more adult in content, but their forays among the femmes is more clichéd than persuasive. At present, "Search" seems to be coasting on the promise and impact of its pilot (it has sampled well enough in the early weeks), but it is placed in the toughest face-off of the entire sked - and may have to pick up some depth to keep competitive. Bok. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:54 am Subject: Variety Tele Follow-up Comment on SEARCH - Jan. 31, 1973 Variety Tele Follow-up Comment on SEARCH - Jan. 31, 1973 SEARCH NBC's "Search," facing additional competition from "Owen Marshall" in the revised "second season" schedule, added a little refurbishing of its own Wednesday (Jan. 24) when the skein aired the first episode shot since Tony Spinner took over the production reins of the series - the third such topper since the show preemed in September. In a stanza toplined by Tony Franciosa, Spinner got the series' concept turned away from its previous combination of electronic jukebox and superficial international intrigue, not far enough to constitute a dramatic turnaround but enough to suggest that he's on the right track. Essentially, the plotline had Franciosa and Dane Clark groping around in grimily effective waterfront settings in search of the thugs who had killed Clark's wife, kidnapped his daughter and shot him. The thugs were straight out of stock, the chase device somewhat routine, but the interplay between Clark and Franciosa had the realistic ring that has been sorely missing from earlier episodes. Also down-pedaled were the home base light show with Burgess Meredith, et al, with a completely new set of faces managing the headquarters' chairs. All in all, new approach seems better than the old. Bok. From: actingman@i... Date: Tue Aug 14, 2001 8:38 pm Subject: Thanks Don I've often said that Don was our research maniac, and he's come through again. The one that I especially like is the Variety update from Jan, 1973. It's the first time I had seen in writing any kind of acknowledgement about the changes made on the show. Although I would still like to hear it from someone who was there in their own words, I feel closer to understanding why they did what they did. I don't know what they refer to in the following: "when the skein aired the first episode shot since Tony Spinner took over the production reins of the series - the third such topper since the show preemed in September. " The THIRD such topper? They are referring to the line producer, so weren't there just two? Mr. Spinner and Mr. Justman? Or was there one who left early enough before Mr. Justman came aboard that this mystery person didn't warrant any screen credit? Or are they referring to Leslie Stevens leaving the show? I also think it's funny how they are saying this episode is so vastly different from what had come previously. I think Twenty-Four Carat Hit was a good episode because it was good...and except for the trend in the last eight of loosing scanner contact for one reason or another, this episode could have run anywhere in the series. And just because it is taking place in the U.S., it still concerns international crime, and I am amused that the first show that was supposed to get away from Probe Control has to do with not one but two agents, and Probe trying to clean up a mess that was created by a World Securities division in the first place. How's that for getting away from the format of Control's involvement in the plots? Thanks again to Don...now if we can find an article about Leslie Stevens leaving the show... And maybe we need to run these old Variety articles through Babel Fish so they come out in English...the language used is hysterical...such cliche. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Aug 15, 2001 5:30 am Subject: Variety reviews of SEARCH --- In probe_control@y..., actingman@i... wrote: > I don't know what they refer to in the following: "when the skein > aired the first episode shot since Tony Spinner took over the > production reins of the series - the third such topper since the > show preemed in September. " Hi John: Yeah, I noticed the above also. It could be a little confusion on the part of the reviewer(s), who are identified simply as "Mor" and "Bok" (sound like Cardassian names to me). Leslie Stevens was the producer of the pilot, then Bob Justman was brought in to produce the first 15 shows, then Tony Spinner produced the last eight. Those are the only three names I know that were connected to the job of producer. Variety didn't think much of "The Murrow Disappearance" and it didn't do that well in our last episode poll either. It might have been better for the series if they could have started with "Moonrock," but that's how it goes I suppose. Another thing I noticed is that the Variety reviewers seem to do the same thing Cleveland Amory did for TV Guide, that is, they tend to write their reviews for other reviewers, not the Joe Average viewer. So it was interesting to read in the second review that SEARCH "has sampled well enough in the early weeks" Neilsen ratings, but they don't explain what that means. Variety also noted that "it is placed in the toughest face-off of the entire sked." From Sept. 1972 to Jan. 1973, the TV audience was seemingly split between "Cannon" and SEARCH. I had forgotten that ABC replaced "Julie Andrews" with "Owen Marshall" at midseason. SEARCH apparently could not win that new three way race in the ratings. Then again, all that is water under the Probe Control bridge now. But it's interesting to look back on it. :-) Don H. From: Date: Wed Aug 15, 2001 10:23 pm Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /script.jpg Uploaded by : actingman@i... Description : Side by side comparison of page 39 showing two different page styles in the Search scripts. You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/script.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, actingman@i... From: actingman@i... Date: Wed Aug 15, 2001 10:44 pm Subject: Script page comparisons Someone on the list asked that I next post Ends Of The Earth script. The good news is I am. The bad news is it is so faded (and that's how it arrived originally) that it can't be OCR'd...so I am typing out the whole damn thing. Ugh! In the meantime I thought I would show you what I am working with and raise some questions about it. I posted to the files section "script.jpg", which has on the left hand side of the image page 39 from Ends Of The Earth, and on the right hand side page 39 from Suffer My Child. Most of the scripts I got from Lincoln Enterprises look like the Suffer script. High quality mimeographed, neatly typed (for the most part.) A few of the scripts arrived like Ends did: faded photo copies with a different typeface, and a slightly different style of presentation...including a revision date on almost every page (and the date isn't always the same) and asterisks at certain places on the right hand side. I can't figure out what the asterisks are for, and they don't show up on the "cleaner" Suffer style scripts. Also, none of the Ends style scripts have that final page with the little advert for the duplication store. My questions include: what do the asterisks mean, and which of the two styles are more authentic? Is it possible the "ends" style scripts are copies of the scripts before they went to mimeo for distribution? Are we actually seeing the sausage being made? As you can see from the Ends page, they're typing sometimes went right off the page. Also, you will see when I finish the script and post it on probecontrol.com, some of the pages are combined. Example: 2, 3, 4-5, 6, 7, etc. Instead of having seperate pages 4 and 5, it has one page for 4 and 5. Something to look at while I type my little fingers off. By the way...script.jpg is over 600kb...I purposely made it big so you can really get a closeup look at it. So slower modems will take a few minutes to download it. From: Cynthia_Hargraves@P... Date: Wed Aug 15, 2001 11:17 pm Subject: Script Hi, It's Cynthia. Do you have a screenwriting program? Like Final Draft or Scriptwriter. That will help you format the script. The asterisks mean revisions. Remember to format according to the orignal pages. Use Courier p12 that's the industry standard. Most software programs won't allow you to hit the bottom they way they use to when that stuff was typed. Keeping with the original formats tell you when and how the show was aired on television. The first act is usually about 15 minutes or so (old standard, now it's 10) with every 15 pages an act. Also now,some shows have only 3 act. Use microsoft word. They may have a download that will allow you to paginate like final draft. Instead of doing all that work. You should order it from Script City for around 10.00 That will save you the headache. The beauty of a draft is the way the pages are set. The page numbers determine the dramatic peaks in the story. Good Luck don't work so hard Cynthia From: Cynthia_Hargraves@P... Date: Wed Aug 15, 2001 11:19 pm Subject: changing my e-mail address I will be working on a few new shows at Paramont my e-mail will be different. I am still working on the lot. e-mail antara11@a... From: Len_S@b... Date: Thu Aug 16, 2001 10:43 pm Subject: ...and another real-life scanner sighting... Motorola's new concept range of wearable tech (from T3 magazine) - online at www.t3.co.uk/news.asp?ID=1053 What do you get when Motorola's top engineers team up with a fashion designer who's a serious sci-fi fanatic? A TARDIS phone? Well, thankfully, not quite. The outcome of this unlikely alliance is actually a gaggle of concept gadgets, created at Motorola's recently built design centre in Milan by Matthias Richter, senior industrial designer, with help from style specialist and chief designer Lorna Ross. The end result is a futuristic range of wearable tech aimed at the everyman, and fortunately not something only suited to the crazy catwalks of high fashion. Italy-based Richter worked with fashion historians, anthropologists, sociologists, engineers and smart textile boffins to create things you'll want in a world where "everything will talk to everything", as he puts it. The idea was to show what you could do with technology that's almost readily available to us here and now, such as voice recognition and fast wireless communication. For starters, there's the Always Connected, a portable multimedia communicator with a removable pin that serves as a Bluetooth earpiece. Of course with Bluetooth on-board, the Always Connected enables it to 'talk' to other digital devices wirelessly and it even comes with a stylus so you can enter data directly into it. Made of magnesium, the earpiece looks a bit like a 1930s German spy camera. "It's very much that shape, but a bit slimmer," replies Richter. Next up is [... ] the cunningly named Other's Eyes. This necklace camera and cube combo is a video device and control system within a soft gel material. The Other's Eyes have been designed for sharing personal information over long distances, and if you travel, your significant other can see what you see when you're out walking (although this is possibly unwise - Ed). You really want to download the image at www.t3.co.uk/upload_images/news/wearable_tech.jpg From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Fri Aug 17, 2001 4:41 am Subject: Sony's Magic Cameras Sony's Magic Cameras http://davesweb.cnchost.com/cameras.htm The above links to a footnoted article by Dave McGowan describing how, in some ways, the technology presented in SEARCH has already been surpassed by folks whose primary occupation is snooping and surveillance. Most Americans have yet to discover that they can no longer have a private life, not in the way it was once understood. Will Rogers once said that it's not what I don't know that bothers me, it's what I do know that ain't so. From: Jim Alexander Date: Fri Aug 17, 2001 5:12 am Subject: ENDS OF THE EARTH script actingman@iname.com wrote: The bad news is it is so faded (and that's how it arrived originally) that it can't be OCR'd...so I am typing out the whole damn thing. -------------------------------------- Now THAT'S dedication! Thanks so much for your efforts, John-- I, for one, very much appreciate it! Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: michael beacom Date: Fri Aug 18, 2000 2:54 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] ENDS OF THE EARTH script Ditto-- can't wait to read the results. Thanks for the effort! Michael B. Jim Alexander wrote: actingman@iname.com wrote: The bad news is it is so faded (and that's how it arrived originally) that it can't be OCR'd...so I am typing out the whole damn thing. -------------------------------------- Now THAT'S dedication! Thanks so much for your efforts, John-- I, for one, very much appreciate it! Jim Alexander probecontrol@dynasty.net From: actingman@i... Date: Sat Aug 18, 2001 10:54 pm Subject: ENDS OF THE EARTH script is posted The Search script Ends Of The Earth is now posted on www.probecontrol.com or you can go to it directly at http://probecontrol.com/Scripts/Ends.txt . As I wrote previously, this copy looks like it is a production copy before going to mimeo (an assumption on my part.) Also, the copy is very faded so OCRing was not possible. The right hand margins weren't consistent in my copy, and I'm afraid my typing it over didn't help any. Especially with the asterisks. But I was more concerned with getting them in the right places. And in some cases, those asterisks are on blank lines...that's not a mistake. My script is missing page 53 (it is blank). I made a note of that and transcribed the dialogue from Don's 1973 audio recording of the episode. Some of the scripts from Lincoln Enterprises have a blank page. But strangely, not always the same pages. Jim and I both have copies of the pilot script. We compared missing pages and discovered each script had a different blank page. We were able to swap copies of the missing pages and now we both have complete copies...27 years later...as does the scanned copy on Probecontrol.com. So I am always hoping to find other copies out there with the pages I don't have. Two or three other Search scripts also have missing pages. If the temp job market slump ever ends, and I have an income again, I will check out Script City's copy of Ends. (Anybody else out there do temp work? It's bad right now.) It's always interesting to compare the scripts to the finished product. Changed and cut lines, as well as changed scenes. Someone out there said they wanted to see the Ends script to see what the action is that you can't see on Don's audio recording. But you never can tell. Check out the Mattson episode where the man is killed in the elevator, and then read how the murder was described in the script. The Packagers is missing two pages, during an action sequence, and what is written around those two pages is so different from what is happening on screen I can't even do any kind of reconstruction to fill those pages. And The Packagers is another badly faded copy, so it will be the last one to be added to the web site. Gotta give these sore digits a little rest. From: eric_williams@c... Date: Mon Aug 20, 2001 12:00 am Subject: Eric Williams/MAN/Candle is out of the office. I will be out of the office starting 17/08/2001 and will not return until 03/09/2001. I will respond to your message when I return. If you require action on any open issues please email Uk_Support@c... and a customer support agent will respond to your enquiry. Eric Williams Candle Customer Support From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Mon Aug 20, 2001 6:37 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] everything about a Probe TV scanner but afraid to ask Hello everyone Hello Cynthia Thanks for the info re: 'Name Of The Game'. 10-15 years ago being repeated in the States is actually good news. As you say, Leslie Stevens was involved & that didn't affect it being repeated. It's a useful thing for all you people here to remember if you do find someone at Warner, that the other rotating star series got a showing. You didn't qualify this, Cynthia, & it's so long since I saw 'Name Of The Game' but I presume it was a Paramount production?? If it was Warners, it would have been further ammunition. C'est la vie. Hello Jim Alexander Hope my private suggestion was of use. It was polite, ladies & gentlemen. It isn't like there's only one free server on the Internet. You humans really need to have a more positive attitude with handling reality. Hello Don H Just to throw some useless trivia your way, if you watch the Mel Gibson 'Maverick' film you'll spot cameos by both Hugh O'Brian & Doug McClure on-board ship in the poker room. By the by, I was poking around Warner Brothers website for a contact name. Part of my regular work to start picking up on videos for review purposes. It's a dirty job but someone has to look at these things. Paramount & Fox appear to give proper access although I'm still waiting for replies through their systems that will have to go back to their UK branches but Warners seems to be their purely for there as a promo. It's something bearing in mind if you're doing serious enquiries in that direction. Just thinking aloud in case anyone can throw a different light on this. Hello Len S - a real-life Sasquatch, huh?? As to the banned 'Star Trek' episodes in the UK. They've all been shown now except for the ST-NG episode 'When The Bough Breaks' although that was available on video but I've yet to pick up. You're quite right about the IRA reference but it's only a passing sentence that I'm surprised it was stopped purely for that reason. With the original 'Star Trek' banned episodes, it was mostly for their violence on at a kiddie time that got them omitted. We never had any problems with inter-racial kissing in the UK. Having a Vulcan kiss a human is something we see all the time. We were a lot more liberal than you folk then & now. We're still amazed how you lot weren't upset by the continual showing of the tender moment between Starsky & Hutch at the end of the opening credits. [Nothing like that happened on Cagney & Lacey!!!] Our lot were more concerned as to what happened to the driving mirror in Starsky's car in the end credits. Side-tracking. We have a watershed of sorts in the UK as regarding what can be shown when the kids are still up, up to 9pm, & many shows were careful not to do anything too risqué or violent although this has eased off some in recent years. Back in the 70s, Gerry Anderson's TV series 'UFO' had 4 episodes banned for being too violent although they have been aired in the morning since. Saying that, 'UFO' was really targeted at late teens to adults. These 4 episodes were shown but late at night. Oddly enough, one of them, 'The Psycho-Bombs' was one of my favourites. Re: Variety review. I always find such reviews fascinating. Not so much by their information but the lack of it. Talking through their tooth to base?? No reference to the TV scanner does make you wonder did their review watch or copy the notes from a companion & still got it wrong. How did Maurice Evans get a regular part?? As to high-tech possibilities today. This kinda stuff's been happening for the past 5 years or so. Wasn't there a chap over in Silicon Valley, who has an eyeglass continually on & used a tiny finger keyboard to write messages. Even in the most multi-ordinal person being blind-sided may not be their problem but certainly with other pedestrians & traffic. Although it's interesting seeing all these sorts of gadgets being built & with mini-cams these days, the only real problem is the power source. For any continual use, you sorta give the game away by the car battery you've got to lug around with you. In an open comparison to the Probe agent, the earjack & tooth bleeper are intrusive surgery. Other than battery source & where to stick the arial, both are quite feasible even 20 years back. The one thing the current mini-cams don't have is the range of uses the Probe's TV scanner has in regarding to being able to track across the electromagnetic spectrum. It's not impossible though. If we use the TV scanner as our template, then its as well to stop thinking of it as a miniature TV. The lens aperture (hope I'm not getting too technical for all of you) would make things difficult to see at a distance. Superman has a similar problem. His telescopic vision would mean having eyes sticking someway out of his head if he saw purely as we do. Considering everything about the Kryptonian is dense, one could easily surmise that the eye's aqueous humour (that's the fluid inside the eye) can change density & at least let him see a couple miles. The same principle would allow him to see at a microscopic level. A little digression here but it should serve its point. Now it would be impossible to apply the Superman principle to the lens we see in the 'TV' scanner. It would be difficult to continually modulate any fluid within the lens let alone have something behind it to transmit the information. Saying that, there are certain crystal resonance types that can pick up em & electrical signals - although you'll have to forgive me that the name of them doesn't spring readily to mind - & it is feasible that they can be converted to pictures. It wouldn't be too far a stretch of the imagination to move up & down the em spectrum either. A variation of this sorta thing is being tested on blind people at present. The real secret is in making the chip high resolution so detail can be made out. It's no wonder Cameron kept threatening a lifetime's salary every time a TV scanner was damaged or lost. Thinking a bit further on that. Once it's possible to grow such chips, the cost would be dropped a bit but the setting into the scanner chassis & all its gubbins would still be pricey. End transmission Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE *************************************************** From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Aug 21, 2001 1:25 am Subject: New Folder in Files Section Hi folks: I've started scanning some of the TV Guide material in my files. When I have enough to fill a CD, I'll send it to Bryan for posting on http://probecontrol.com/ For now, I've posted some samples in a new folder in the Files Section: TV Guide SEARCH clippings When Bryan posts these officially to the website sometime in the near future, I'll erase this folder. So take a look while they're hot. To John: Thanks for the "Ends of the Earth" script, we very much appreciate it. :-) To Geoff: "The Name of the Game" was a Universal production and Leslie Stevens was among a number of writer-producers for that series. Dominic Frontiere was associate producer and did a lot of background music. Some of that music was used later by SEARCH. Also, the original article discussing the banning of certain classic Trek episodes by the BBC during the mid-1980's is at this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/235 Thanks, Don H. From: Jim Alexander Date: Tue Aug 28, 2001 4:01 am Subject: Jim Alexander--Change of Address Friends and neighbors, Sorry to clutter up your INBOX, and also sorry for the impersonal mass-mailing, but after some ratty service from my current ISP, I am more than inclined to seek a change. My e-mail address is changing from: probecontrol@dynasty.net to probecontrol@sigecom.net Yes, that's correct. My often-mistaken-for-something-rude e-mail reference (actually a nod to an obscure 1972 TV Show called SEARCH) remains intact. Some geeks, er things... never change. However, my provider has. So there. I'd appreciate it if you'd update your Address Books (if I'm blessed enough to've been included there), as I'd HATE to miss a single e-mail from you, _(your name here)_. Speaking of which, if you feel inclined to (a) drop me a line to say you've received this, or (b) hit REPLY if you don't have the time to respond... it would help ease my paranoia. The former address should still be functional until the end of the month. Both addresses should be operating currently. Thanks! Jim Alexander probecontrol@sigecom.net From: Vb Trainer Date: Tue Aug 28, 2001 5:59 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Jim Alexander--Change of Address I got it! -steve --- Jim Alexander wrote: > Friends and neighbors, > > Sorry to clutter up your INBOX, and also sorry for > the impersonal > mass-mailing, but after some ratty service from my > current ISP, I am > more than inclined to seek a change. > > My e-mail address is changing from: > > probecontrol@d... > > to > > probecontrol@s... > > Yes, that's correct. My > often-mistaken-for-something-rude e-mail > reference (actually a nod to an obscure 1972 TV Show > called SEARCH) > remains intact. Some geeks, er things... never > change. However, my > provider has. So there. > > I'd appreciate it if you'd update your Address Books > (if I'm blessed > enough to've been included there), as I'd HATE to > miss a single e-mail > from you, _(your name here)_. Speaking of which, if > you feel inclined > to (a) drop me a line to say you've received this, > or (b) hit REPLY if > you don't have the time to respond... it would help > ease my paranoia. > The former address should still be functional until > the end of the > month. Both addresses should be operating > currently. > > Thanks! > > Jim Alexander > probecontrol@s... From: Jim Alexander Date: Fri Aug 31, 2001 1:09 am Subject: Please Ignore-- Just Testing Test