From: actingman@i... Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 3:25 am Subject: Photos of Angel I don't remember if I sent this request out to the list, so please forgive me if I am repeating myself. Angel asked awhile back if any of us have any photos of her that she doesn't have. She is building a web site. I have already sent her a disk with scans of Don's and mine (my?) filmclips. And Don has a copy of her appearance on Simon and Simon and he is going to do some video grabs of her. If anybody has any photos of her, and you can scan them, or if you have any of her work on tape and you can do video grabs, please do so and send them to me, and I will forward them to her and make sure she knows who they came from. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 4:44 am Subject: Re: Photos of Angel Hi John: Thanks for reminding me, I'll get on those "Simon" grabs of Angel as soon as I can. Also, it's not the best quality, but I did find a photo of Angel online a while back: (Partial repeat of Message 462) From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Feb 13, 2001 3:28 am Subject: Angel Tompkins celebrity photo online The Celebrity Pictures website carries a photo of Angel Tompkins which can be accessed via the link below. http://www.celebritypictures.com/Pictures/AngelTompkins/angel1.jpg To search from their home page, it is: http://www.celebritypictures.com From: ataylor@m... Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 9:04 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Dominic Frontiere Well slap me down and call me spanky. I could have sworn he was pushing up daisies... but I can't ind any info to confirm it myself. Nice to be wrong in a case like this. Now we just need to figure out how to get in touch with him! AT From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 2:45 am Subject: OT: NIGHT GALLERY (especially for Marta) Hey, Marta!!! Did'ja notice that the MYSTERY CHANNEL began running (uncut?) NIGHT GALLERY episodes this evening? Thought you might be interested. Sorry-- no SEARCH connection here. ;) Jim probecontrol@sigecom.net From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 5:04 am Subject: Night Gallery--SEARCH connections Hi Jim: Actually there are many SEARCH connections to "Night Gallery." Guest stars included, along with their episode titles: Angel Tompkins ("Room With A View") Burgess Meredith ("The Little Black Bag," "Finnegan's Flight") Jeff Corey ("The Dead Man") Louise Sorel ("The Dead Man," "Pickman's Model") Torin Thatcher ("Lone Survivor") Bert Convy ("They're Tearing Down Tim Riley's Bar") Patrick O'Neal ("A Fear of Spiders") Wally Cox ("Junior") Cameron Mitchell ("Green Fingers," "Finnegan's Flight") Julie Adams ("The Miracle at Camafeo") Bill Bixby ("Last Rites for a Dead Druid," "Return of the Sorcerer") James Gregory ("Stop Killing Me") Howard Duff ("There Aren't Any More MacBanes") Ed Nelson ("Little Girl Lost") Dane Clark ("Spectre in Tap Shoes") Kent Smith ("Whisper") Burgess Meredith connection: Orson Welles (narrator of "Silent Snow, Secret Snow") Since "Night Gallery" ran on NBC from very late 1970 to mid-1973, there are a lot of SEARCH guest stars because these were the "day players" of their time. The main difference being "Gallery" was produced by Universal Studios. So Encore's Mystery Channel is running "Gallery" now. Are they running the original versions of the hour-long episodes which first appeared on network? The last syndicated package cut all the shows down to fit into a 30-minute time slot. Some episodes were cut terribly, while other episodes received added and sometimes confusing footage. There is a nice graphics-intensive website where I found all the above and much more. It's at: http://www.nightgallery.net/index.html?title.html&0 Regards, Don From: Marta Dawes Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 11:26 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] OT: NIGHT GALLERY (especially for Marta) Yep, I had the VCR at the ready. The first time since the original series went off the air in 1972 or 73 that they've been shown uncut on TV. It was a pretty historic moment, for me. I love Night Gallery. If we could only get them to champion "Search." Marta > Jim Alexander wrote: > > Hey, Marta!!! > > Did'ja notice that the MYSTERY CHANNEL began running (uncut?) NIGHT > GALLERY episodes this evening? > > Thought you might be interested. > > Sorry-- no SEARCH connection here. ;) > > Jim > probecontrol@s... > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > [Image] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@b..., Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: Marta Dawes Date: Tue Oct 2, 2001 11:30 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Night Gallery--SEARCH connections They are the uncut episodes, restored to their original length, without commercials. The Night Gallery website is run by the two authors of the "Night Gallery" book, a very good read. The Mystery Channel will be running a marathon on Halloween, with interviews with the original stars of the series between the eps. They are doing it right, and everyone should send them some kind of thank you. If we do, they might go out and find other lost series, like Search. Marta dghprobe3@a... wrote: > > Hi Jim: Actually there are many SEARCH connections to "Night > Gallery." Guest stars included, along with their episode titles: > > Angel Tompkins ("Room With A View") > Burgess Meredith ("The Little Black Bag," "Finnegan's Flight") > Jeff Corey ("The Dead Man") > Louise Sorel ("The Dead Man," "Pickman's Model") > Torin Thatcher ("Lone Survivor") > Bert Convy ("They're Tearing Down Tim Riley's Bar") > Patrick O'Neal ("A Fear of Spiders") > Wally Cox ("Junior") > Cameron Mitchell ("Green Fingers," "Finnegan's Flight") > Julie Adams ("The Miracle at Camafeo") > Bill Bixby ("Last Rites for a Dead Druid," "Return of the Sorcerer") > James Gregory ("Stop Killing Me") > Howard Duff ("There Aren't Any More MacBanes") > Ed Nelson ("Little Girl Lost") > Dane Clark ("Spectre in Tap Shoes") > Kent Smith ("Whisper") > > Burgess Meredith connection: > Orson Welles (narrator of "Silent Snow, Secret Snow") > > Since "Night Gallery" ran on NBC from very late 1970 to mid-1973, > there are a lot of SEARCH guest stars because these were the "day > players" of their time. The main difference being "Gallery" was > produced by Universal Studios. > > So Encore's Mystery Channel is running "Gallery" now. Are they > running the original versions of the hour-long episodes which first > appeared on network? The last syndicated package cut all the shows > down to fit into a 30-minute time slot. Some episodes were cut > terribly, while other episodes received added and sometimes confusing > footage. > > There is a nice graphics-intensive website where I found all the above > and much more. It's at: > http://www.nightgallery.net/index.html?title.html&0 > > Regards, > Don > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > [Image] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@b..., Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 12:43 am Subject: Angel Tompkins 'Night Gallery' episode If anyone out there has a clear dub of Angel Tompkins' "Night Gallery" episode, "Room With A View," see if you can make video captures of her in the episode and send a CD-R to John (actingman) and he can forward it to her. As John reported in post #1013, Angel may add these captures to her website. Encore's Mystery Channel may be running a more complete version of this episode than what has aired in syndication previously. If someone has a tape of the episode (or any other TV shows or movies with Angel), but no video capture card in their computer, check with John (actingman@i...). Thanks. From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 1:33 am Subject: Night Gallery--SEARCH connections Hey, MARTA!!! Remind us come Halloween time about the MARATHON, huh??? I don't wanna MISS it! ;) MAN! These uncut episodes sure are PRETTY! P.S. Where can one get a copy of the NIGHT GALLERY BOOK? I didn't know one existed... Jim probecontrol@sigecom.net -------------------------- Marta Dawes wrote: The Mystery Channel will be running a marathon on Halloween, with interviews with the original stars of the series between the eps. Marta From: Marta Dawes Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 1:47 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Night Gallery--SEARCH connections Aren't they good looking? Fantastic to see them again uncut, and on digital cable no less. About time some of these fine older series are resurrected and treated with respect. Well, since you've got a pipeline right here to the two authors, ;-), I can check and see if you can order it from one of them and get it autographed at the same time. They have both signed my book (I'm not bragging - much.) It's well worth the money, cause its chock-full of good stuff. Also, Amazon has it; here's the link. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0815605358/qid=1002073415/sr=2-1/ref=sr_8\ _3_1/103-8629853-2038216 -- Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@b..., Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: cdrrabenson@a... Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:13 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Angel Tompkins 'Night Gallery' episode Don, In reference to Angel's appearance in the episode, "Room with a View", on Night Gallery, she already has a video-taped copy of that episode. In fact, I was with her when she made it, last October. There is a small business close to where she lives whose enterprise is to rent videos from its large storehouse of old and classic television and cinema. Many of these are from collectors' private stocks. One of our actiivities during my visits is for Angel and I to visit this place, rent what we want to, then return to her place, and make dupes of the tapes. She principally looks for videos of television episodes in which she appeared. (In fact, right now, she is searching most for her appearance in the Bonanza episode, "The Night Virginia City Burned Down".) Last October, she got a tape of her Night Gallery episode and made a copy for herself and for me. I have it around here, somewhere (unfortunately, I don't think I had labelled it, yet; and my wife moved all of my tapes to another cabinet while redecorating, so it will take some hunting.) If John prefers, I can send him that tape--Angel made me a dupe of her Night Gallery appearance on her own initiative; I try to see everything she has done and hold on to copies of exceptional things, like Probe, but I don't collect her appearances--it would not be a problem for me to let that one go. Incidentally, her new website is up with two excellent portrait shots of Angel on the home page and her filmography. Things seem to be lacking beyond that, so far. Every other page is still marked "under construction". She asked me to write reviews of her appearances in all the movies I have seen with her in the cast. That would have been about 80% of them, and I knocked those out over two week-ends. She asked me to do this in reference to her site, so I would imagine those reviews will show up in her site in some form. Regards, Commander Benson From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 12:38 pm Subject: Angel Tompkins website What's the address of Angel's new site, Commander? Jim probecontrol@sigecom.net From: cdrrabenson@a... Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 5:51 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Angel Tompkins website Jim. It's www.angeltompkins.com. Regards, From: DBoysen@a... Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:35 pm Subject: Re: Angel Tompkins website Did I hear correctly? Is she also running for President of SAG? From: actingman@i... Date: Wed Oct 3, 2001 8:53 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: Angel Tompkins website She's run for it in the past also. At 08:35 PM 10/3/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Did I hear correctly? Is she also running for President of SAG? From: cdrrabenson@a... Date: Thu Oct 4, 2001 12:00 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: Angel Tompkins website She runs for the SAG presidency every election (held every two years). Commander B From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Thu Oct 4, 2001 1:18 am Subject: Hard to remember address for the Angel Tompkins website Commander Benson wrote: It's www.angeltompkins.com. ------------------------------------------------ Duh. I guess I should'a tried that before asking. ;) Jim probecontrol@sigecom.net From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Sun Oct 7, 2001 8:18 pm Subject: Re: Night Gallery Hello everyone All this talk about 'Night Gallery' & I can't recall it ever being shown in the UK. Saying that, cos it was Rod Serling, I did acquire the two novelisation anthologies several years back. They were originally released in the 70s, so if you want to track them down you'll have to use an out-of-print book service like abebooks.com. I've been pulling a lot of rare - but not necessarily expensive unless you choose other than reading copies - books off of them lately & even posting to the UK is done in less than a week. Within the US, they're probably even faster. Gotta go Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com *************************************************** From: Len_S@b... Date: Mon Oct 8, 2001 12:07 am Subject: Re: Night Gallery We got them in the London area (can't speak for other regions) but with zero respect from schedulers. They used them as schedule fillers before the station shut down for the night. Sometimes a whole episode, sometimes just one of the five minute "funnies". Sometimes in TV Times, sometimes not! They once showed an episode without opening OR closing credits around primetime for some reason (probably lost that day's Crossroads & had to fill!). When they were experimenting with overnight broadcasting in the early 80s (24 hour TV *gasp*) they used New Twilight Zone for the same purpose: if you taped something overnight (with 5mins extra just in case the show over-ran) it wasn't unusual to catch unexpectedly the beginning of a New Twilight Zone episode that hadn't been mentioned in TV Times. And of course you wouldn't manage to catch the ending... Episode guides weren't freely available then so this was all very frustrating. --- In probe_control@y..., "Geoff Willmetts" wrote: > Hello everyone > All this talk about 'Night Gallery' & I can't recall it ever being shown in the UK. From: Marta Dawes Date: Mon Oct 8, 2001 11:27 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: Night Gallery Someone on our Night Gallery list said the same thing; they live in England, too, and said that they really chopped up the episodes. I hadn't heard that about the New Twilight Zone, but I don't doubt it. Butcher the shows up and then show tiny bits of it to fill time. Just what the series' creator's had in mind when they spent weeks constructing them. Len_S@b... wrote: > > We got them in the London area (can't speak for other regions) but > with zero respect from schedulers. They used them as schedule > fillers before the station shut down for the night. Sometimes a > whole episode, sometimes just one of the five minute "funnies". > Sometimes in TV Times, sometimes not! They once showed an episode > without opening OR closing credits around primetime for some reason > (probably lost that day's Crossroads & had to fill!). When they were > experimenting with overnight broadcasting in the early 80s (24 hour > TV *gasp*) they used New Twilight Zone for the same purpose: if you > taped something overnight (with 5mins extra just in case the show > over-ran) it wasn't unusual to catch unexpectedly the beginning of a > New Twilight Zone episode that hadn't been mentioned in TV Times. > And of course you wouldn't manage to catch the ending... Episode > guides weren't freely available then so this was all very frustrating. -- Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@b..., Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Oct 9, 2001 12:39 am Subject: Night Gallery & Sixth Sense & Harlan Ellison What is really strange is that Universal, in order to add more material to their first "Night Gallery" syndication package, butchered 50 minute episodes of Gary Collins' "The Sixth Sense" series into 22 minute versions and aired them as though they were "Night Gallery" episodes. I hope Encore's Mystery Channel will not be doing that. "Sixth Sense," while an okay show on it's own level, should never have been been sandwiched bogusly into "Night Gallery." They are distinctly different shows. I seem to recall that Harlan Ellison worked with "Sixth Sense" early on as a story editor and that it didn't work out. Can anyone confirm? He mentioned this years ago during one of his appearances on Tom Snyder's "Tomorrow" show. ------------------------------- --- In probe_control@y..., Marta Dawes wrote: > Someone on our Night Gallery list said the same thing; they live in > England, too, and said that they really chopped up the episodes. I > hadn't heard that about the New Twilight Zone, but I don't doubt > it. Butcher the shows up and then show tiny bits of it to fill > time. Just what the series' creator's had in mind when they spent > weeks constructing them. From: Marta Dawes Date: Tue Oct 9, 2001 12:51 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] Night Gallery & Sixth Sense & Harlan Ellison "Sixth Sense" will not be part of the NG airings on the Mystery Channel, and it has no place in the NG pantheon. As we all know, the only reason Universal added it to the NG syndication package was to make more money. Marta dghprobe3@a... wrote: > > What is really strange is that Universal, in order to add more > material to their first "Night Gallery" syndication package, > butchered 50 minute episodes of Gary Collins' "The Sixth Sense" > series into 22 minute versions and aired them as though they > were "Night Gallery" episodes. > > I hope Encore's Mystery Channel will not be doing that. "Sixth > Sense," while an okay show on it's own level, should never have been > been sandwiched bogusly into "Night Gallery." They are distinctly > different shows. > > I seem to recall that Harlan Ellison worked with "Sixth Sense" early > on as a story editor and that it didn't work out. Can anyone > confirm? He mentioned this years ago during one of his appearances > on Tom Snyder's "Tomorrow" show. -- http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@b..., Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: Len_S@b... Date: Thu Oct 11, 2001 9:26 pm Subject: Found them. Stained with brown-and-no-longer-sticky tape I have found my old Search Control clippings. In the UK the pilot aired at 645pm Saturday February 24th 1973 on London's ITV (may have been different in other regions)and the series began nationwide at 720pm on Wednesday Sept 12th that year on BBC1. All I need to find now is the PSU for my scanner and I'll share what I have. Moving house makes this job a little harder than it should be… --- In probe_control@y..., "Jim Alexander" wrote: > Thanks for filling in some of the gaps, Len. Very interesting. > > Jim Alexander > probecontrol@s... From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 12:25 am Subject: SEARCH CONTROL clippings Len wrote: >... All I need to find now is the PSU for my scanner and I'll share what I have. Moving house makes this job a little harder than it should be… ---------------------------------- What a great item to add to the website archive!!! Thanks, Len! Somewhere around HERE I have the first handful of individual SEARCH episode descriptions, cut out from 1972 TV GUIDES... Do we have these, already-- someone... anyone??? Thanks! Jim Alexander probecontrol@sigecom.net From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Fri Oct 12, 2001 3:31 am Subject: TV Guide SEARCH clippings Hi Jim: I have many of the Atlanta TV Guide listings of SEARCH episodes from 1972-73. I do plan to scan them all eventually. I think Bryan mentioned he had some also. Actually, it may be just as well that everyone scan whatever they have because I've noticed that different area TV Guides have either more or less "guest star" listings in those synopses. So anyone who has any SEARCH clippings, I'd say go ahead and make your own folder in our Files section and start adding scans to it as you go: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files I made a TV Guide SEARCH clippings folder there, which already has the eastern No. Carolina listing and ad for the PROBE premiere, so everyone else can follow suit or add their own folder. Probe-ad.jpg Probe-listing.jpg More later. Don ---------------------------------------- --- In probe_control@y..., "Jim Alexander" wrote: > Somewhere around HERE I have the first handful of individual SEARCH episode descriptions, cut out from 1972 TV GUIDES... > > Do we have these, already-- someone... anyone??? > > Thanks! > > Jim Alexander > probecontrol@s... From: actingman@i... Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 2:33 pm Subject: OT Another favorite maybe gets revived. ABC, FOX SEEKING LIGHT AT THE END OF 'TIME TUNNEL' Ravich revisiting 1966 Irwin Allen sci-fier By Josef Adalian "The Time Tunnel" is headed back to television -- but whether the project ends up at ABC or Fox is now the subject of a battle between the two nets. Remake of the 1966 Irwin Allen sci-fi adventure skein is being put together by scribe Rand Ravich ("The Astronauts Wife") and helmer Todd Holland (Malcolm In The Middle") via Regency Television and 20th Century Fox Television. Skein will be updated from the original series, which revolved around two young scientists working on a secret project that allows them to travel back and forward in time. Kevin Burns and John Jashni are attached as exec producers, along with Sheila Allen, Irwin Allen's widow. Both ABC and Fox Broadcasting co. have made substantial offers for the rights to the project, with ABC's initial offer said to be significantly higher than Fox's bid. Each net has offered at least a put pilot commitment with a cash penalty if the project is not taken to series. In addition, industry insiders said ABC has also made a 13-episode commitment to "Time Tunnel," along with a higher cash penalty. FBC is apparently willing to match ABC's bid. Alphabet execs, however, have already signaled their willingness to improve substantially on their original offer -- but are now worried that 20th and Regency are trying to ensure the project lands at its sister network, FBC. In most cases, FBC would have first crack at "Time Tunnel", but because the estate of Irwin Allen co-owns the rights to the series, 20th and Regency are required to get the fair market value for the project -- which is why the bidding was open to other nets. Insiders at News Corp., which has a stake in Regency, 20th and FBC, argue that 20th regularly pitches its projects to multiple networks, while Disney-owned Touchstone produces almost exclusively for ABC. Mouse House types counter that Touchstone now has series on both CBS and NBC. Burns wouldn't comment on specifics of negotiations, but said he's confidednt that when the dust settles, "Time Tunnel" will land at the appropriate network. "If it ends up at Fox, it's because that's where it belongs," he said. "If it ends up at ABC, that's where it belongs. Reps for ABC, Fox and packaging agency CAA declined comment. From: tomatprobe@a... Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 3:37 pm Subject: New member Hi gang! My name is Tom Harden, and here is my Search story. I remember my brother saying "...there's this new show and it has Trampas on it..." I was not praticularly interested but relunctantly agree to watch the end of Short Circut(I just got home from my little league game and missed the first fifteen or twenty minutes). Well, needless to say IT WAS SO COOL!!!!. I still want that car! At the time I was only intereseted in the Grover episodes and since I was watching the repeats, I missed "Midas". Atlanta never once carried "Numbered for Death". By the end of summer I could watch a Lockwood episode and force myself to tolerate Bianco(I just wanted to see Grover). My brother, as you may know as Don, started ordering scripts and clips from Lincoln Ent. (I remember the little key chain viewer). He also audio taped a good many episodes and transferred to cassette all the Grover episodes that he had (all but Midas and Numbered...). After memorizing them I wanted some of the better Lockwood and Bianco episodes so he made me some of those and I realized these guys were pretty good too. After I married I began ordering from L.E. myself and have a good many clips too (I always gave one of anything new to Don). I hit some economic hard times in 1986 and had to stop ordering, when I tried again a couple of years later Search was no longer availiable. In 1984 Don found an episode(Goddess) and that led to eight others and for all we knew that was going to be it and we accepted this. Fifteen years later Don found Let Us Prey and a year later he hit Probe Control gold! We never though we'd have this many episodes on tape, even after discussing the possibility of it 1976 when home video became a reality. All the years we were discussing the show we thought we were the only to people alive that even remembered it. Well thats my story for what its worth, Im finally on the net now because I got a thousand free minutes and my 17 year old son needed access to get class note. My wife is also a Search fan but never heard of until I came along.End Run..... From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sat Oct 13, 2001 10:12 pm Subject: Welcome, Tom Harden! The "famous" TOM Harden!!! I've heard so much about you!-- Thanks for coming out from the shadows and saying hello! Tickled to have you aboard! ...LOVE to hear the first-hand SEARCH personal experiences!!! ;) Jim Alexander probecontrol@sigecom.net From: tomatprobe@a... Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 2:02 am Subject: Thanks Jim Thank you Jim for the welcome. I would like to apologize to you for not sending a letter months ago, to thank you for the Barbery Coast episodes. I was able to get the "Jessie who?" one the last time it was on TV Land. I just happen to catch the last few minutes of Crazy Cats TWO TIMES. Once again thank you,thank you,thank you! From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Sun Oct 14, 2001 7:31 pm Subject: Re: Other spooky old tv series with great opening music Hello everyone While it might not have been 'Night Gallery', did you folk on the other side of the pond ever see an anthology series called 'Journey Into The Unknown' in the late 60s & reshown in the 70s & 80s?? You wouldn't have mistaken it's opening even if it might have been given a title change. An empty roller-coaster whizzing around its tracks in the dead of night to an errie whistled theme. Another tune that deserves to be added to a soundtrack album. A British product that a lot of people thought was on par with 'The Twilight Zone'. By the by, anyone still wanting the 'Outer Limits ' soundtrack might check out www.gnpcrescendo.com as they both make & stock it. It's rather interesting seeing what other soundtracks they've covered including the now defunct 'Seven Days'. Gotta go Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com *************************************************** From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 1:13 am Subject: JOURNEY INTO THE UNKNOWN Never saw JOURNEY, Geoff. I DO need to pick up that 7 DAYS soundtrack-- thanks for the reminder! Jim probecontrol@sigecom.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Geoff Willmetts To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: [probe_control] Re: Other spooky old tv series with great opening music Hello everyone While it might not have been 'Night Gallery', did you folk on the other side of the pond ever see an anthology series called 'Journey Into The Unknown' in the late 60s & reshown in the 70s & 80s?? You wouldn't have mistaken it's opening even if it might have been given a title change. An empty roller-coaster whizzing around its tracks in the dead of night to an errie whistled theme. Another tune that deserves to be added to a soundtrack album. A British product that a lot of people thought was on par with 'The Twilight Zone'. By the by, anyone still wanting the 'Outer Limits ' soundtrack might check out www.gnpcrescendo.com as they both make & stock it. It's rather interesting seeing what other soundtracks they've covered including the now defunct 'Seven Days'. Gotta go Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com *************************************************** From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 3:21 am Subject: Thanks, Tom Hello Tom: Glad you finally climbed aboard with us. Several on the list have been anticipating your arrival and I'm sure you will have much to say about SEARCH from your point of view in the future. Without your help in getting loads of SEARCH filmclips from Lincoln Enterprises several years ago, we wouldn't have had as many images posted at http://probecontrol.com as we now do. I'm finishing off the scans of "A Honeymoon to Kill," another of the episodes we haven't found on video yet. In the near future, folks will be able to view the images we have of that episode on http://probecontrol.com (However, list members can get a copy of my audio CD of the 1973 NBC audio of this episode by contacting me or actingman.) Thanks, Don From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon Oct 15, 2001 5:58 am Subject: New poll for probe_control Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the probe_control group: Of the "big three," which is your favorite Probe agent? (Reopening our first poll.) o Hugh Lockwood, Probe One o Nick Bianco, Omega Probe o C. R. Grover, Standby Probe To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/polls Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! From: actingman@i... Date: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:05 am Subject: An Article on Angel In last week's Back Stage (a weekly industry newspaper actors read mainly for casting notices) they ran an article on Angel Tompkins. Here's the text of it: SAG's Angel Returns to Ballot By Roger Armbrust No one can ever accuse Angel Tompkins of not having determination. In 1991, the lovely actress stunned the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) political leadership when she unseated Sally Stevens. a nominating committee selection, for the guild's recording secretary post. In 1996, she was the top vote-receiver in SAG's Hollywood board of directors' election. By 2000. she had horrified the brass of the American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA) when she called for the union's 60,000 actors to decertify from AFTRA and to recertify under SAG's umbrella. AFTRA took her to trial and threw her out of the union. Through the decade, Tompkins took on the mantle of dissenter. constantly challenging SAG's leadership. She ran for SAG's national presidency, taking on Richard Masur. a two-term SAG president, in three races, the last in 1999, when Masur lost to current president William Daniels. Apparently to help her scurry to the top of the SAG ballot, two years earlier she had changed her name to Angeltompkins. that letter "A" evidently giving her an election edge. It didn't. This year, her name newly separated, at least according to her official website, Tompkins is trying her fifth run for tile SAG top office. She barely made Back Stage's deadline last week for an article which ended up covering only the other three candidates for the presidency: Eugene Boggs, Melissa Gilbert and Valerie Harper. This week, here's Tompkins' view on the current race, including her political history and the current issues: "I believe the most important issue that SAG needs to address is to be, once again, recognized world wide as the most powerful union for actor and actors rights." she said in her written statement. She listed a number of proposals she had encouraged the SAG board to implement, which the board turned down, then later instilled when other board members suggested them, including, e-mail for membership and staff, an informational website for members, videoconferencing, and a SAG Canada union branch. Only the last hasn't been fulfilled. The "Now Issues," she says. include WIPO copyright protection for actors to share in the fees: runaway-production legislation; cost-effective staffing and nonduplication of work; adopting a governance plan: and, again, a SAG Canada for Canadian performers. Tompkins also sent Back Stage an email last week claiming that presidental candidate "Melissa Gilbert is one of the puppets of Richard Mauser and his remaining board member cronies." Another candidate, Valerie Harper, has stated the same opinion, only more delicately, saying Gilbert was not a Masur puppet, but rather aligned with the former president. Gilbert has denied such an alignment. From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Wed Oct 17, 2001 9:55 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Re: scanners in use today Hello Everyone As everyone was so concerned about scanners a few weeks ago, here’s a press clipping from one of our national newspapers, the Mirror, today 17 October 2001 (info put in for the archives). I’ve saved the file as a JPG for here. If the writing can’t be read, let me know & I’ll have to do it as a BMP. I really must figure out why a paste won't put the picture in here. Look under the enclosed attachment Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com *************************************************** From: don@s... Date: Thu Oct 18, 2001 1:13 am Subject: Greetings to probe_control Hello to all of the Search fans here. I am new to the group and was also an 11 year old kid who watched this show regularly. Along with Mission Impossible and Star Trek, it was one of my favourites. I realize now how lucky I was to have actually seen this show, before it dissapeared from the airwaves. Looking back at it, most of the technology put forward in Search is now possible, almost 30 years later. Being interested in electronics projects as I was, Search had a special appeal to me. Like, Oh yeah, theese people on Search really know what they're doing. Sorry for not prewiewing all of the messages posted here, but has anyone ever considered a remake, movie or otherwise? I would be interesed in purchasing VHS copies of episodes, if anyone here does that. That is until the DVD's come out, Regards, Don From: actingman@i... Date: Sat Oct 20, 2001 2:41 am Subject: New audio file on web site Out of the blue new list member Bruce contacted me and offered me a copy of the theme from the pilot. He took Bryan's Quicktime copy of the opening and turned it into a stereo recording. It's on the theme page on the web site, or you can use this link to get it directly: http://probecontrol.com/MP3/pro_them.mp3 I wrote a less then specific description of what he did on the page because, he is going to try and get the VHS release of the pilot and then do the same thing with the audio off the tape for an even higher quality recording. When he does I will post that in place of the one there now. I've invited him to share with us on the list here how he did it (something I want to learn about,) and of course to discuss the show. On a different note, Bryan got a nice note from someone who remembers the show...who probably watched live the airings that we have on tape. I don't see him on the member list, but here is what he wrote Bryan: > I have just discovered your SEARCH site. > Fantastic!! > I cannot believe it has been nearly 30 years since it was last on here > in Australia. > > Anyway, this is just a short note to say thanks, what memories it brings > back of this terrific series. > > My only suggestion would be, how about a SEARCH desktop theme and screen > saver? That would be so cool. It would beat a lot of the more common > seen themes. > > Thanks a million once more for such a great site and for all your > efforts in bringing it to us. > > Regards > Joe Occhiuto Anybody want to take on the task of a screen saver and desktop theme? From: bnhunsaker@y... Date: Sat Oct 20, 2001 5:18 am Subject: Re: New audio file on web site --- In probe_control@y..., actingman@i... wrote: > Out of the blue new list member Bruce contacted me and offered me a copy of > the theme from the pilot. He took Bryan's Quicktime copy of the opening > I've invited him to share with us on the list here how he did it (something > I want to learn about,) and of course to discuss the show. OK, here's the scoop. What I did was not that difficult, but does take some familiarity with the way audio works in windows, as well as the right tools. It is easy to create a .wav file from any audio playing through your PC with even crude tools like the sound recorder that comes with WINDOWS. The key is to enable the correct recording input device. In my case I went to the volume control window by double clicking on the speaker icon in the systray. Then selected options->properties, selected adjust volume for 'recording'. Click on OK and a Recording Control window opens. I selected 'mixer balance' (you might haver to find the correct volume setting for recording by trial and error). Once this is done any audio coming through your sound card can be recorded. I used a program called n-track studio, but there are others (i.e. goldwave). Once in N-track studio, I started-up the quicktime video, and started recording. I did a few test samples in order to find a good volume level setting. You want it to be loud, but the waveform should not be clipped. Once recorded, I added a surround sound effect available from the effects option. They have a nice control window for this, so I was able to play with the settings in real time until I found a setting that gave the sound I wanted. I then applied the setting to the entire .wav file. After this, I used audiocatalyst to normalize the file (adjusts the volume to the maximum possible, without adding distortion) and then encoded it into an MP3. I have used this technique to create MP3 files from audio cassettes and the audio output of VCRs. You just need a patch cord to go from the audio output of your tape player/stereo/VCR to the line-in jack of your sound card on your PC. If doing this, select the line-input device from the recording control window. There, now that I have given away all my secrets, perhaps we can get more audio from SEARCH. -- Bruce From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sat Oct 20, 2001 2:36 pm Subject: Surround-sound SEARCH theme Bruce wrote: >... There, now that I have given away all my secrets, perhaps we can get more audio from SEARCH. ------------------------------------- Sounds WONDERFUL, Bruce!!!! Am I the only one who gets a bit-goose-pimply when I hear it??? Jim "Get a Life" Alexander probecontrol@sigecom.net From: don@s... Date: Sat Oct 20, 2001 4:03 pm Subject: New SEARCH logo in probe_control files Hello to the group, I have upped 3 variations of the SEARCH logo to the probe_control files. They are all taken from the SEARCH logo at the top of the website homepage. 2 with black and white backgrounds (the quality of theese, while better than the original, leave something to be desired.)and one with just the SEARCH letters against a black (matte) background. This one is a bitmap which has been done to perfection in Microsoft Paint. In Paint, you can change the colours/size as you please. This SEARCH Matte can be used as a template for any future desktop themes or screensavers. To really do the complete logo well, the red and blue map projections would have to be redone in a vector based drawing program. I personally think that the logo should be done in a 3D program to give the background map projections a 3D feel with the land masses raised slightly higher out than the cross-hairs in the backgroud. Once this was done the next step would be to animate this into a GIF for the probe_control website! Don From: actingman@i... Date: Sat Oct 20, 2001 4:19 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] New SEARCH logo in probe_control files Did you also see the cleaned up copy of the logo that Mike Okuda posted in the files section? It is amazing when it prints out. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/SEARCH%20title.fh9 It's in Freehand9. I have somewhere a converted copy of it in bmp or some other format if someone wants it and can't read Freehand. At 04:03 PM 10/20/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Hello to the group, I have upped 3 variations of the SEARCH logo to >the probe_control files. They are all taken from the SEARCH logo at >the top of the website homepage. 2 with black and white backgrounds >(the quality of theese, while better than the original, leave >something to be desired.)and one with just the SEARCH letters against >a black (matte) background. This one is a bitmap which has been done >to perfection in Microsoft Paint. In Paint, you can change the >colours/size as you please. This SEARCH Matte can be used as a >template for any future desktop themes or screensavers. To really do >the complete logo well, the red and blue map projections would have >to be redone in a vector based drawing program. I personally think >that the logo should be done in a 3D program to give the background >map projections a 3D feel with the land masses raised slightly higher >out than the cross-hairs in the backgroud. Once this was done the >next step would be to animate this into a GIF for the probe_control >website! Don From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sun Oct 21, 2001 12:40 am Subject: SEARCH/THE IMMORTAL Frontiere music By the way, gang-- I was dubbing some episodes of Christopher George's wonderful series THE IMMORTAL for listmember Robin Brunet, and heard some very familiar sounds. It seems that Frontiere re-used PLENTY of THE IMMORTAL's music for SEARCH. When I looked, I noticed that Frontiere had scored THE IMMORTAL (it was another Warner Brothers studio production, like SEARCH). I remember Don Harden mentioning some time ago that Frontiere's SEARCH cues have turned up in other series (didn't you mention THE RAT PATROL, Don? --which would be ironic, since it's ANOTHER Christopher George series), but I don't recall him mentioning THE IMMORTAL. Remember the cue from the SHORT CIRCUIT promo-- the one where Grover says, "I got it away from him... but IT'S ACTIVATED!"? It's the one with the great blaring horns. That's only ONE of the cues I'm talking about. It's interesting, though... It's the same SEARCH stuff... but NOT the same. It seems to have been re-orchestrated for SEARCH (which came the year following THE IMMORTAL's cancellation in 1971). It's slightly different. Maybe he needed longer cues for SEARCH? Maybe the original music tracks were lost or destroyed? Maybe he thought he could improve upon them? I estimate that that might be the case, because the SEARCH cues ARE better. They're fuller, richer, and (in my opinion) better orchestrated, with perhaps, a larger orchestra. Anyway-- I got a real kick out of it. It caught me by surprise when I heard them, and wanted to clue y'all in to my semi-SEARCH-related "discovery." Jim Alexander probecontrol@sigecom.net From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Oct 21, 2001 3:53 am Subject: Re: SEARCH/THE IMMORTAL Frontiere music --- In probe_control@y..., "Jim Alexander" wrote: > I remember Don Harden mentioning some time ago that Frontiere's SEARCH cues have turned up in other series (didn't you mention THE RAT PATROL, Don? --which would be ironic, since it's ANOTHER Christopher George series), but I don't recall him mentioning THE IMMORTAL... > It's interesting, though... It's the same SEARCH stuff... but NOT the same. It seems to have been re-orchestrated for SEARCH... ========================================= Hi Jim: Yes, I have a number of the mid-60's "Rat Patrol" episodes on video and Dominic Frontiere did the theme and background music for them. A lot of their music, or similar strains, can be heard throughout "The Packagers." Same thing goes for portions of "The Fugitive." As you said, it's the same but not the same. It's orchestrated differently, and I agree that the SEARCH cues are superior. In addition, certain episodes of "Name of the Game" have similar background music cues. One episode has a variation of the music heard during Lockwood's car chase in "The Murrow Disappearance." However, as I mentioned once before, the movie that is absolutely filled to the brim with SEARCH music cues is David Janssen's "Birds of Prey." Anybody out there have a dub of that one? -Don H. From: "Kevin" Date: Sun Oct 21, 2001 4:09 am Subject: Pro_theme MP3 It only gets better when we can find great copies of the theme to play on the computer or whaterver. Now if only they would release the episodes on tape or DVD. Thanks for sharing the music. Hope more comes in the future. Kevin Stone From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sun Oct 21, 2001 4:14 am Subject: Frontiere music Don wrote: >... However, as I mentioned once before, the movie that is absolutely filled to the brim with SEARCH music cues is David Janssen's "Birds of Prey." Anybody out there have a dub of that one? ------------------------------- Hmmmmmm. Check out: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1476325153 Jim probecontrol@sigecom.net From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Oct 21, 2001 4:26 am Subject: SEARCH Desktop Theme (upcoming) --- In probe_control@y..., don@s... wrote: > This SEARCH Matte can be used as a > template for any future desktop themes or screensavers... Hi Don: The other Don here, and welcome to the SEARCH list. Actually, I have a SEARCH desktop theme which I use on my own computer. I should have already uploaded it as a ZIP file to the files section, but I guess I was waiting for someone to bring it up. The other thing, I was also going to wait until Bryan put up the sounds page on the website. So far, no one has said anything about desktop themes. Let me get something together on that. One thing, WAV files tend to take up a lot of space. I may have to spread it over two zip files to help people in downloading the thing. Folks should see a Search Desktop ZIP (or two) in the files section soon. -Don H. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Oct 21, 2001 4:31 am Subject: 'Birds of Prey' on eBay Hi Jim: Thanks for the "heads up" on "Birds of Prey." I didn't realize that it had been released as a pro tape and is now out of print. I have it on my eBay "Watching Page." I will wait until the last day to place a bid. If someone else on the list wants it, though, I'll be glad to step aside if you promise to make me a dub of it. :-) More later, -Don H. ============================================= --- In probe_control@y..., "Jim Alexander" wrote: > Don wrote: > > >... However, as I mentioned once before, the movie that is absolutely filled to the brim with SEARCH music cues is David Janssen's "Birds of Prey." Anybody out there have a dub of that one? > ------------------------------- > Hmmmmmm. > > Check out: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1476325153 > > Jim > probecontrol@s... From: tomatprobe@a... Date: Sun Oct 21, 2001 2:48 pm Subject: Search music I was once surfing thru channels and heard Search music. It was some kind of cheerleader movie. It was a very bad movie and I didn't watch but a minute of it, but it shows that this music could pop up just anywhere. From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Sun Oct 28, 2001 5:15 pm Subject: Screen themes Hello everyone Many years back, I got the 'Babylon 5 ScreenSaver' CD. It allows muliple musical WAV cues to be added to a variety of PC Windows functions. Using some Jukebox software, I managed to flip the MP3 files of the opening, close & two break clips to WAV & its Desktop happily plays them in my random mode. Still trying to figure out why the conversion to WAV of the 3 minute version is responding just yet but will probably figure it out along the way. It's not the length but format. Probably a hidden code that needs neutralising. I think Jim Alexander would go a little ape with the clips my computer plays around with. As far as I know the B5 CD isn't available any more, at least not in the UK. On your side of the pond, it might turn up in the cheapie dumps. It was made by Rockridge Enterprises. Presumably they did other screensaver software with different TV programmes or films, so it might be possible to apply to them as well. The problem with dedicated desktop themes selections is that, at least for me, after a while, I'm likely to want to change to avoid complacency. The way I've currently it, I've pulled selections from a variety of other desktop themes. Everything from Airwolf to UFO, Bewitched to Terminator & Search. (Hope you're paying attention, Jim.) Apart from the desktop sound themes, there's a random wallpaper software that will operate on any BMP files in any directory its in. I've hooked it through the menu system & the wallpaper changes with a button press. Can't do much with the actual screensaver. Uses a BAF file system but who stays to watch the pictures flick through anyway. The best screensaver is turning off the monitor as that's the real electricity guzzler anyway. Gotta go. Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com ***************************************************