From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon Jul 1, 2002 1:24 am Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /SEARCH PILOT.doc Uploaded by : actingman_jc Description : Episode List, Credits. You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/SEARCH%20PILOT.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, actingman_jc From: "actingman_jc" Date: Mon Jul 1, 2002 1:53 am Subject: An Episode Guide Trevor and Richard created an episode guide with credits, and wanted to share it with the group. They intended it to be a database that we could all add to if we wanted with thoughts on the episodes, bloopers we spot, etc. I promised I would check to see if there were some way to post it on the groups site so that we could all add to it, but I cannot figure out how. There is a database function...but it is really set up to add single lines of information at a time...and not whole tomes. So for now I have added it to the files section here on the site http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/SEARCH%20PILOT.doc Download...enjoy...add to it in your emails...and if anybody has any idea how we can post it somewhere where everybody can add to it...let me know. From: "crayresearch2001" Date: Tue Jul 2, 2002 1:13 pm Subject: Thoughts on latest episodes, DVD's, Yahoo Hello everyone. I thouroughly enjoyed watching the 3 latest offerings; the fruits of Actingman's efforts. This is like watching it live on TV. The quality is better than can be expected, especially after some of the copy's we had to put up with. Not to mention, they are really good episodes!! Nice to see a bunch of the 'old Probe Control room' back to back. The multilinguist tech. referred to the Probe Control computer setup as 'Computronics', which is a pretty cool name. Re: DVD's, How about this scenario: The chap from Australia with the best generation PAL copy's ships them to (example) the chap who has the digital remastering equipment (hopefully PAL compatible, or it might not be worth it) who in turn, after cleaning up the tapes a bit digitally, ships those digital tapes to a chap who can transfer them to DVD. Call me a dreamer, but I would certainly buy a few of theese DVD's. The other chap could design the cover for the boxed set.... heck, we could even throw in some 'extras', you know, with a searchable menu and everything.(bootleg DVD's) Re: Yahoo, I think it's not a coincidence that Yahoo and Hotmail are starting to charge for their services, at about the same time (conspiricy theory) and signing a petition probably a waste of time IMHO. See ya later, Don-2 From: "actingman_jc" Date: Tue Jul 2, 2002 7:47 pm Subject: Finally registered and voted at the site for getting cult tv shows on DVD. http://www.tvshowsondvd.com As you will recall...Marta's husband Steve wrote to me about the site. I voted for Search and wrote the studio execs a note telling them that the show should be on dvd, that series star and part-owner Hugh O'Brian was interested in this when he heard how many fans are out there, and that they should license the show for U.S. syndication/cable distribution. 10 people have voted so far...placing Search at something like 1033rd of the shows they have listed...at least that's what I thought those numbers meant. Check the site out, and vote for the show...who knows? Three years ago I didn't have any Search on tape. Never thought I would see the show again. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 5:03 am Subject: more on Morning Glory Circle A while back I mentioned the website devoted to Morning Glory Circle, the studio neighborhood in Columbia Ranch full of facade houses used in "Bewitched" and many other shows over the years. http://www.1164.com/ It was also the Parker neighborhood in the SEARCH episode "Countdown to Panic." I sent an email alerting the site owner to this fact and he has added SEARCH to his listings on this page: http://www.1164.com/ranch/sightings.html At the top of this page are the headlines: "1164 Morning Glory Circle Sightings of places at the Ranch" Then scroll down to: "Kravitzes':" and this listing appears: Search TV ("Countdown to Panic" episode) If anyone has any other TV or movie sightings of landmarks in Morning Glory Circle that are not already on his list, contact the site owner at: http://www.1164.com/e-mail-me.html From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 5:18 am Subject: Re: An episode guide I enjoyed the episode guide and thought that the following notes might be added. If you only want to use a few of these, that's okay too. :-) Note for "The Murrow Disappearance": (Actor Vernon Weddle, who plays McEgan, also did the voiceovers for many of the Probe Control "briefing tapes" throughout the series.) Note for “Let Us Prey”: (The airport stairway used by Bianco at the end of this episode is the same stairway used by Lockwood near the beginning of “The Gold Machine.”) [Actually Chris Metz caught this one some time ago.] Note for “Numbered for Death”: (The exterior sets used for Vollmer’s bank are the same exteriors used for Harbison’s headquarters in “The Packagers.”) Note for “Countdown to Panic”: (The Probe Control set has darkened somewhat, with small spotlights shining downward on the rear walls. The rear wall, by the way, is the same wall as seen in earlier episodes and the "Probe" pilot movie as the Probe entry port. The scenes in the Parker neighborhood were filmed at “Morning Glory Circle” in Columbia Ranch, now called Warner Bros. Ranch. The Parker house is actually the same house used for the Kravitzes in “Bewitched” and later for “The Partridge Family.” A website is devoted to this neighborhood at www.1164.com.) Note for “Goddess of Destruction”: (The first and only time we see the “briefing tapes” narrator onscreen as he reads his reports (Vernon Weddle). Usually we only heard his offscreen voice. Grover’s car seems to be missing its racing stripe.) Note for “Moment of Madness”: (One of the very few times we get a glimpse of the lights on the Probe Control viewscreen going all the way down to the floor. The only time we see a “back door” at the rear of Probe Control. We get new views of the exterior and interior of World Securities building, including an elevator shaft and parking area. The only episode to especially feature Cameron, his past, and his family background. The exterior building used for O’Toole’s office is the same exterior used for Probe Control in the “Probe” pilot.) Note for “The Clayton Lewis Document”: (The interior set used for Arlene’s apartment is the same set used for Harbison’s office in “The Packagers,” especially the curved stairway in the rear of the set. One of the few times Cameron is seen outside of Probe Control and wearing a regular business suit.) From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 6:05 am Subject: TV Guide Cover Gallery (SEARCH) http://www.tvguide.com/50th/ecards/ Above links to the TV Guide Cover Gallery: "...where we showcase more than 2,500 covers from the past 50 years. Use the search box to find covers featuring your favorite stars and shows. You can also search by genre and year — we have every cover from 1953 right up until the current issue. Once you find a cover you like you can send an e-card to a friend!" (I hope these links work, and yes the "Search" TV Guide cover is represented in most of the links below.) Hugh O'Brian TV Guide Covers Tony Franciosa TV Guide Covers Doug McClure TV Guide Covers Burgess Meredith TV Guide Cover Cheryl (Stoppelmoor) Ladd TV Guide Covers From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 11:57 am Subject: RE: [probe_control] TV Guide Cover Gallery (SEARCH) Yes, the link came through. Wonderful to see some of their covers again, and especially the Search cover. Jim A. was kind enough to get Hughs signature for me on one of the prints he had made of that cover, when he made the trip to Chicago. I took it in to get it framed a few weeks ago and should have it back in another week. I picked a 70s burnt yellow color for the mat, and a screaming orangish red color for the metal frame that just shouts 1972; it perfectly matches the colors in the cover. You should have seen the look on the guys face at the framing shop, when he saw my final choices. But then, he was only in his early 20s. It will look authentically 70s, and I cant wait to see it (I was just about to turn 16 on November 25, 1972, the date of the TV Guide cover, and still remember how much I loved the colors of that decade). Ill post a pic of it when it arrives. Of course, it wont match anything else in my house, since no one decorates in those colors anymore, but thats what will make it so unique. No one will be able to miss it. J Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@bestcare.org, Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley -----Original Message----- From: dghprobe3@aol.com [mailto:dghprobe3@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 1:06 AM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] TV Guide Cover Gallery (SEARCH) http://www.tvguide.com/50th/ecards/ Above links to the TV Guide Cover Gallery: "...where we showcase more than 2,500 covers from the past 50 years. Use the search box to find covers featuring your favorite stars and shows. You can also search by genre and year we have every cover from 1953 right up until the current issue. Once you find a cover you like you can send an e-card to a friend!" (I hope these links work, and yes the "Search" TV Guide cover is represented in most of the links below.) Hugh O'Brian TV Guide Covers Tony Franciosa TV Guide Covers Doug McClure TV Guide Covers Burgess Meredith TV Guide Cover Cheryl (Stoppelmoor) Ladd TV Guide Covers From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 2:47 pm Subject: Framable SEARCH TV Guide Cover Marta wrote: I picked a 70s burnt yellow color for the mat, and a screaming orangish red color for the metal frame that just shouts 1972; it perfectly matches the colors in the cover. You should have seen the look on the guys face at the framing shop, when he saw my final choices. (snip) No one will be able to miss it. ----------------------------------------- HAH!!! I did almost exactly the same thing! I'm not a 'professional' framer, but I've done my share of framing a great deal of treasured artwork around the house, and I couldn't see going with anything else when it came to doing the SEARCH TV GUIDE portrait... Here's a pic of what I can up with. I don't know how 'true' the colors will be (that ORANGE is pretty... vibrant), but you'll get the idea. P.S. This is NOT the print that Marta purchased--the one that's available through me/the probecontrol site. It happens to be the one I sent to Leslie Stevens many years ago, and had him sign. It is an enlarged color photocopy of the 'straight' SEARCH cover (before I had the image retouched and the text removed). Enjoy! Jim Alexander probecontrol@sigecom.net From: "actingman_jc" Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 7:58 pm Subject: Clips added to Probecontrol.com Since we do not have genuine film frames from the "final eight", I decided to do grabs from Trevor's tapes when I saw the quality. The first one is up: The 24 Carat Hit. There are some good shots there, and some fuzzy ones...it could be my grabbing set up...but I will keep working on it. This is a difficult one to do, since so much of it was shot on location at night...for instance, I could not get a clear shot of Miss Lewis, who brings Bianco the car and gun in Act IV. So much of it is just too dark to see, even with his good tapes. You need something more then a 16mm film source. There are still some good shots to look at...and I will do the same thing with the other 5 episodes that Trevor got of the final eight. (This is the only day of the year when I do not take offense when I hear "Oh for god sake, John, sit down!"...no prizes if anyone knows the reference...except for my admiration in your knowledge and good taste.) (Which by the way...turns into a Search related trivia point.) From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 8:10 pm Subject: l] Clips added to Probecontrol.com >... This is the only day of the year when I do not take offense when I hear "Oh for god sake, John, sit down!"...no prizes if anyone knows the reference...except for my admiration in your knowledge and good taste.) ---------------------------- Why that's from the marvelous musical, '1776' of course which (plug) is coming out on a remastered DVD with additional footage and commentary track, soon! (plug!) ---------------------------- >... Which by the way...turns into a Search related trivia point. ---------------------------- Hmmmmmm. I know the movie version was done in '72-- the same year as SEARCH came out. Tell us, John? Is there an actor who participated in both '1776' and 'Search'? William Daniels, maybe? Who am I going to KICK myself for forgetting?... Jim probecontrol@s... From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 8:17 pm Subject: RE: [probe_control] Framable SEARCH TV Guide Cover It looks very similar to how mine will when itd done. You cant do anything less with all the vibrant coloring on the print. It has to have something to match it framing it. Like I said, I cant wait to see it. It should look smashing! Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@bestcare.org, Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley -----Original Message----- From: Jim Alexander [mailto:probecontrol@sigecom.net] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 9:48 AM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] Framable SEARCH TV Guide Cover Marta wrote: I picked a 70s burnt yellow color for the mat, and a screaming orangish red color for the metal frame that just shouts 1972; it perfectly matches the colors in the cover. You should have seen the look on the guys face at the framing shop, when he saw my final choices. (snip) No one will be able to miss it. ----------------------------------------- HAH!!! I did almost exactly the same thing! I'm not a 'professional' framer, but I've done my share of framing a great deal of treasured artwork around the house, and I couldn't see going with anything else when it came to doing the SEARCH TV GUIDE portrait... Here's a pic of what I can up with. I don't know how 'true' the colors will be (that ORANGE is pretty... vibrant), but you'll get the idea. P.S. This is NOT the print that Marta purchased--the one that's available through me/the probecontrol site. It happens to be the one I sent to Leslie Stevens many years ago, and had him sign. It is an enlarged color photocopy of the 'straight' SEARCH cover (before I had the image retouched and the text removed). Enjoy! Jim Alexander probecontrol@sigecom.net From: "dghprobe3" Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 8:43 pm Subject: Re: Clips added to Probecontrol.com --- In probe_control@y..., "actingman_jc" wrote: > Since we do not have genuine film frames from the "final eight", I > decided to do grabs from Trevor's tapes when I saw the quality. The > first one is up: The 24 Carat Hit... Thanks, John, for taking the time and trouble to do this for us. Since your copies of Trevor's tapes are closest to first gen, it makes perfect sense. Since I have the closest to first gen on "Countdown to Panic," I'll set about putting video captures of that one on CD-R and send it to you. I was wondering what size or resolution you'd like each image to be. Since it's not a 400 dpi scan like the filmclips, I think it's set to overall screen size and you can reduce it from there for posting. --Don H. From: "actingman_jc" Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 9:00 pm Subject: Re: l] Clips added to Probecontrol.com 1776 is my favorite musical...I've done it three times...and hope to do it many more times in this life. I will probably buy the new dvd release, but what is strange is that they fully restored all but five seconds of the movie in 1991 on laser disk...bringing it to a 3 hour running time. This dvd relese won't have all of the restored footage...so I don't know why they are discarding some of it. It was done in 1972, but I'm not sure what time of year. The Search connection is that one of our TV Guide Teletypes said that O'Brian was taking off from filming Search during the summer to do a production of 1776. And we know from the production order that he did three episodes, then they did 5 episodes with the other two stars...so it's my guess that he did the show during that period. --- In probe_control@y..., "Jim Alexander" wrote: > >... This is the only day of the year when I do not take offense when I hear > "Oh for god sake, John, sit down!"...no prizes if anyone knows the > reference...except for my admiration in your knowledge and good taste.) > ---------------------------- > Why that's from the marvelous musical, '1776' of course which (plug) is > coming out on a remastered DVD with additional footage and commentary track, > soon! (plug!) > ---------------------------- > >... Which by the way...turns into a Search related trivia point. > ---------------------------- > Hmmmmmm. I know the movie version was done in '72-- the same year as SEARCH > came out. > > Tell us, John? Is there an actor who participated in both '1776' and > 'Search'? William Daniels, maybe? Who am I going to KICK myself for > forgetting?... > > Jim > probecontrol@s... From: "actingman_jc" Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 9:03 pm Subject: Re: Clips added to Probecontrol.com Don...you read my mind...I was going to ask you to consider doing this with your "original" copy of Countdown at some point...either after you get done scanning your collection, or whenever. My feeling is when you have a burner and blanks are cheap, then scan at biggest possible size and save in tiff format...just like with the slides. That's what I do. Then I shrink down and thumbnail, etc. Thanks for offering Don. --- In probe_control@y..., "dghprobe3" wrote: > Thanks, John, for taking the time and trouble to do this for us. > Since your copies of Trevor's tapes are closest to first gen, it > makes perfect sense. > > Since I have the closest to first gen on "Countdown to Panic," I'll > set about putting video captures of that one on CD-R and send it to > you. I was wondering what size or resolution you'd like each image > to be. Since it's not a 400 dpi scan like the filmclips, I think > it's set to overall screen size and you can reduce it from there for > posting. > > --Don H. From: "actingman_jc" Date: Thu Jul 4, 2002 9:18 pm Subject: Changed/added two movie files With Bryan's kind permission, I have removed from www.probecontrol.com the 147mb Quicktime file of the Probe opening, and replaced it with a 30mb mpg copy of the opening. I also have added a 9 mb mpg file of the Search opening. The Search opening is from Trevor's tapes...and it is from Operation Iceman. Even if you have a broadband collection, I recommend downloading the files completly before running them. If you already have these on tape...there is nothing new here, they are mainly for people who haven't found us yet...and are where we were just a few months/years ago...not having seen them in decades. From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sat Jul 6, 2002 1:33 am Subject: O'Brian Website change for SEARCH Just a note... The CAREER page on the http://www.hughobrian-wyattearp.com site has been corrected. If you remember, they'd messed up the SEARCH listing. I wrote and suggested the change... never hearing back from them... but at least they corrected their mistake. Jim Alexander probecontrol@sigecom.net TELEVISION SERIES THE LIFE AND LEGEND OF WYATT EARP, 1955-1961, ABC (226 Episodes) SEARCH, 1972-1973, NBC (Pilot (called "Probe") and 23 one-hour episodes) From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sat Jul 6, 2002 1:40 am Subject: Hugh's autograph Here are the pics of the autographed print; they finished it a week early. The color isn't nearly as vivid as it is in person, but it should give everyone an idea how it looks. I love it! Thank you, once again, Jim, for taking the time and putting up with the hassle to get Hugh's autograph for me. You're a top gun! ;-) Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@b..., Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sun Jul 7, 2002 3:28 am Subject: More additions to probecontrol.com I have added grabs from Numbered For Death and The Clayton Lewis Document. I have also removed the mp3 recording of The Bullet and replaced it with an mp3 of Ends Of The Earth...makes sense since that is the only one we don't have. I am hoping someone will write to Bryan or I and comment that they have that episode on tape also. Let's keep our fingers crossed. From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sun Jul 7, 2002 4:23 am Subject: An additional addition It's wrong...and yet it's right. I, with Jim's approval, did up a page with his description of meeting Hugh O'Brian, and added three of the pictures to it. The link is at the bottom of the offerings on the main page at www.probecontrol.com I did it like a regular document...so it is hanging to the left a bit. I may redo it in an invisible grid, so it centers better. But that picture at the bottom is worth the whole thing. From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sun Jul 7, 2002 4:44 am Subject: Corrected addition I decided to try correcting the margins on Jim's article...so that is now posted. If it formats funny on your screen, please let me know. The problem with doing this stuff is it will look different depending on the size of your screen, the browser you use, etc. I think I liked it better in 1972-1973 when the only computers were on tv. When was the last time I read a book? From: "actingman_jc" Date: Mon Jul 8, 2002 3:42 am Subject: OT Message to Connie Lee Forgive me folks...but I would like to make contact with Connie Lee, who I have not heard from in some time. Her "thescope" address is dead, and I can't tell if she resubscribed here with a new address. So Connie, if you are still on list with us, please write to me off-list. John actingman@m... From: "actingman_jc" Date: Wed Jul 10, 2002 2:52 am Subject: More Grabs Posted Grabs from The Mattson Papers now on www.probecontrol.com . I'm trying to avoid the line blurry ones...but can't always do so. I'm getting more of those then I did when I did the pilot off the Unicorn VHS tape. I don't know if that has something to do with converting from PAL to NTSC, or grabbing from a multigenerational tape. As always, let me know if there are any bad links or images that don't come up. From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sat Jul 13, 2002 2:32 am Subject: Yet more grabs up on www.probecontrol.com from Goddess Of Destruction. From: "dghprobe3" Date: Sat Jul 13, 2002 5:57 am Subject: Re: Yet more grabs up on www.probecontrol.com --- In probe_control@y..., "actingman_jc" wrote: > from Goddess Of Destruction. Thanks for the new video grabs, John. It looks like Trevor's eps are much more colorful than the nine faded blue-green AFN-FEN eps my brother Tom and I got back in 1986. Don't get me wrong, we were glad to have them, but it's nice to see the upgrades have improved color. --Don H. PS--Links for those who missed the previous posts: THE 24 CARAT HIT: http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/hit.html NUMBERED FOR DEATH: http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/numb.html THE CLAYTON LEWIS DOCUMENT: http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/clay.html THE MATTSON PAPERS: http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/matt.html GODDESS OF DESTRUCTION: http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/godd.html From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sat Jul 13, 2002 2:55 pm Subject: Re: Yet more grabs up on www.probecontrol.com Yes...I was struck watching "Clayton" I think...becuase I saw the warm colors the control room personel were back-lit with. I was struck because I then remembered seeing it back in 1973. It is interesting to see how they tinkered with the new control room set over the course of the final eight. What's more interesting to me is something else I am seeing, that I remembered seeing back in 1973...not sure I can explain it though. We know they changed the control room set, and they shifted the stories away from the technology and the support team, but I see another subtle difference. The episodes as a whole, on a purely visual level, look different. I can't tell if they are using different film stock, or different lighting, or different camera work...but they have a different visual feel. The colors are different...like the control room itself starting around "Clayton"...the colors in the episodes have a brighter, warmer, orange hue to them. Don, Jim, Bryan and Marta are getting the first batch of conversions (I am almost at the end of them folks...I promise), and it will be interesting as they watch these and can compare the colors from one part of the series to another and tell me that I am out of my mind. Of course some of our PAL friends have already gotten tapes from Trevor, so they can tell me right now. --- In probe_control@y..., "dghprobe3" wrote: > --- In probe_control@y..., "actingman_jc" wrote: > > from Goddess Of Destruction. > > Thanks for the new video grabs, John. It looks like Trevor's eps are > much more colorful than the nine faded blue-green AFN-FEN eps my > brother Tom and I got back in 1986. Don't get me wrong, we were glad > to have them, but it's nice to see the upgrades have improved color. > > --Don H. > > PS--Links for those who missed the previous posts: > > THE 24 CARAT HIT: > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/hit.html > > NUMBERED FOR DEATH: > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/numb.html > > THE CLAYTON LEWIS DOCUMENT: > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/clay.html > > THE MATTSON PAPERS: > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/matt.html > > GODDESS OF DESTRUCTION: > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/godd.html From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:08 am Subject: Bob Peak website (TVG Search cover) http://www.bobpeak.com/artpage.cfm?artid=70 Above links to a website devoted to artist Bob Peak (1927-1992), who created the TV GUIDE "Search" cover art for the 11-25-72 issue. There is a scan of the original artwork, showing a little more of the art than appeared on the printed cover. Peak also did the posters for many movies, including the "Star Trek" films. http://www.bobpeak.com/ --Don H. From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sun Jul 14, 2002 2:40 am Subject: Moment Of Madness Grabs now on site. Here's the direct link: http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/mom.html The script says Cameron gets on the phone in the car calling for help as Grover swings from the tree and Byron is trying to get in the car. I thought that was something they just never did. But doing the grabs tonight I noticed for the first time he is holding a receiver to his head during this part. A revelation thanks to Trevor and his tapes. From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Mon Jul 15, 2002 11:26 pm Subject: A Fan! One of my friends, who is 5 years younger than I, had a birthday this past weekend. Lo and behold, I mentioned my signed Hugh O'Brian print, and that he couldn't possibly know what the series was, but it turns out he is a huge Search fan. He remembered the stars, and said he loved the series when he was 12. Didn't miss a show. I'm trying to talk him into joining the list, so you might see a new face in the future. They are out there, we just have to find them. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@b..., Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Tue Jul 16, 2002 12:18 am Subject: A Fan! Way to 'recruit'. Marta! :) That reminds me. I mentioned the show once to a co-worker, and he vaguely remembered the dental implant. Jim Alexander probecontrol@s... ------------------------------------------------------- >... I'm trying to talk him into joining the list, so you might see a new face in the future. They are out there, we just have to find them. From: "savitassist" Date: Tue Jul 16, 2002 12:53 pm Subject: Scanner etc. I would like anyone's help to tell me how the woman on the Probe_Control web site is wearing her scanner on a chain. The merchandise shown is very exciting and I want one of each of the shirts, hats, poster,and tapes or dvd's of the show. Can anyone tell me how to print the video tape cover so I can see both sides? Also the dvd cover. I finally bought a copy of the Search paperback book and am buying up anything to do with the show. Back to my first question any help on how to mount a scanner on a necklace would be welcome. Anyone with Search to sell please contact me. mpearsall6@c... Mark G. Pearsall From: "actingman_jc" Date: Wed Jul 17, 2002 2:01 am Subject: Re: Scanner etc. The scanners on the show, and the replicas that Mike Walston makes, are held on with magnets. On the show, the medallions, rings, tie tacs, etc. were flat metal surfaces, and the magnet on the back of the scanner would attach to the jewelry in that way (and a good question for Hugh O'Brian is how often the scanner would get knocked off during filming.) Mike's replicas have a magnet built into them as well. What is great is he also supplies a second magnet so you can have the scanner on an article of clothing if you can't find a flat metal jewelery surface to attach it to (in portraying job candidates at AT&T & Lucent training workshops, I would wear the scanner as a tie tac...using the second magnet.) This was especially helpful in taking the picture with Ivanka for the web site, because the medallion she is wearing is some kind of tin or something that a magnet will not stick to. But with the backing magnet that Mike supplied, the scanner was able to "attach" well enough to take the picture. So of course it is in the back of my mind to find a flat metal medallion, as well as a flat metal ring...a flat metal tie tac, etc. --- In probe_control@y..., "savitassist" wrote: > I would like anyone's help to tell me how the woman on the > Probe_Control web site is wearing her scanner on a chain. From: "actingman_jc" Date: Wed Jul 17, 2002 2:57 pm Subject: Apology and update Sorry for the multiple copies yesterday...Yahoo was having problems and I didn't want my message to get lost...which has happened in the past. Second: I updated the document in the files section of this Yahoo list that Trevor and Richard created listing the episodes, casts, notes, etc. I added the notes that Don sent us in an email...along with some of my own observations. I still need to figure out a way that we can all add to it. The direct link to it is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/SEARCH%20PILOT.doc From: "observer345" Date: Fri Jul 19, 2002 1:32 am Subject: 30 years later... With grateful acknowledgement to Jim Alexander, I've just finished watching the first Search episodes (except the pilot) I've seen since they first aired. Wow. I had all good intentions of watching an episode a night and slowly savoring it. Mildly sleep-deprived, I've finished watching the pilot, and eight episodes. First impressions. Either modern plots have gotten more sophisticated, or I have. Some of these telegraph better than Western Union. I had Edward Mulhare pegged so early in Operation Iceman, I was yelling at the TV for Bianco or Cameron or somebody to wake up and smell the coffee. Talk about getting whacked with a clue- by-four... Even so, they're still a heckuva lotta fun to watch! From Short Circuit. Mega Trans Package. What ninny came up with that godawful name!? And why didn't I notice it 30 years ago? Why doesn't this refitted electromechanical slot machine game (I recognize it -- I used to have a draw poker version) short out when it's zapping everything electrical around it? I originally liked the Lockwood episodes the best. I still hold that opinion, but Grover comes a strong second. The episodes where they let Probe Control do it's thing feel the most right. Not that I dislike Bianco, but in the ones I've seen so far Probe Control doesn't DO anything. My favorites so far are Adonis File and In Search of Midas. It was a small shock to recognize the Kommandant from Police Academy as the Major in Midas. From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Fri Jul 19, 2002 12:03 pm Subject: 30 years later... Interesting observations, Dirk! Thanks for sharing them! I'm thinking it was series creator Leslie Stevens that came up with the 'Mega Trans Package' name, since he wrote the script to SHORT CIRCUIT. It IS odd nomenclature, ain't it? ;) Jim Alexander probecontrol@s... ------------------------------------------- > With grateful acknowledgement to Jim Alexander, I've just finished > watching the first Search episodes (except the pilot) I've seen since > they first aired. Wow. I had all good intentions of watching an > episode a night and slowly savoring it. Mildly sleep-deprived, I've > finished watching the pilot, and eight episodes. > > First impressions. Either modern plots have gotten more > sophisticated, or I have. Some of these telegraph better than > Western Union. I had Edward Mulhare pegged so early in Operation > Iceman, I was yelling at the TV for Bianco or Cameron or somebody to > wake up and smell the coffee. Talk about getting whacked with a clue- > by-four... Even so, they're still a heckuva lotta fun to watch! > > From Short Circuit. Mega Trans Package. What ninny came up with > that godawful name!? And why didn't I notice it 30 years ago? Why > doesn't this refitted electromechanical slot machine game (I > recognize it -- I used to have a draw poker version) short out when > it's zapping everything electrical around it? > > I originally liked the Lockwood episodes the best. I still hold that > opinion, but Grover comes a strong second. The episodes where they > let Probe Control do it's thing feel the most right. Not that I > dislike Bianco, but in the ones I've seen so far Probe Control > doesn't DO anything. > > My favorites so far are Adonis File and In Search of Midas. It was a > small shock to recognize the Kommandant from Police Academy as the > Major in Midas. From: "rbrfab" Date: Fri Jul 19, 2002 12:57 pm Subject: in joke? Some time ago Don initiated a category of 'easter Eggs' in the Files section, containing in jokes or allusive refs to the show or aspects of it within the episodes. Here's a possible candidate. In 'Murrow Disappearance',near the end of Act 3, Lockwood is talking Silvana Tristano into joining him for after-dinner treats, and says [copied off the website script] I had them save us a secluded table and keep the coffee-grinder on duty in case you want some Cappucino. So what? Nothing, except that Silvana is being played by the actress Capucine. Coincidence? (since these are the Final shooting scripts, I assume casting of the characters had been sorted out well before they were prepared.) Richard From: "dghprobe3" Date: Sat Jul 20, 2002 2:08 am Subject: Re: in joke? Richard: Actually I hadn't noticed that Cappucino/Capucine connection. When Leslie Stevens wrote the script, he may have had the actress in mind, which could have led to the reference. If you want, go ahead and add that possible item to the Easter Egg folder as a text file. Offhand, I know that in Stevens' script for "The Gold Machine," he basically described the bookstore owner as a Kurt Kasznar type. And they ended up casting Kurt Kasznar. From things we've read over the years, writers often have certain actors in mind whenever they create certain characters. Availability can be a problem, so sometimes they have to cast someone other than the one who was wanted originally. --Don H. ------------------------------------- --- In probe_control@y..., wrote: > In 'Murrow Disappearance',near end of Act 3, Lockwood is talking > Silvana Tristano into joining him for after-dinner treats, and says > [copied off the website script] > > I had them save us a secluded table > and keep the coffee-grinder on duty > in case you want some Cappucino. > > So what? Nothing, except that Silvana is being played by the > actress Capucine. Coincidence? (since these are the Final shooting > scripts, I assume casting of the characters had been sorted out > well before they were prepared.) From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Tue Jul 23, 2002 2:30 am Subject: SEARCH in joke? Clever observation, Richard! I'm only sorry that I missed it! ;) Jim Alexander probecontrol@s... ----------------------- Silvana is being played by the actress > Capucine. Coincidence? (since these are the Final shooting scripts, I > assume casting of the characters had been sorted out well before they > were prepared.) > > Richard From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Tue Jul 23, 2002 9:01 pm Subject: Moonrock Redux 2002 http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/news/0702/23moonrocks.html [ The Atlanta Journal-Constitution: 7/23/02 ] Workers charged in theft of moon rocks The Associated Press Tampa -- Three student employees and another man were charged with stealing a safe full of moon rocks and meteorites from the Johnson Space Center in Houston and trying to sell them, the FBI said Monday. The items offered for sale by the suspects were kept in a 600-pound safe that was reported missing July 15, space center spokesman Kyle Herring said. The safe contained lunar samples from every Apollo mission. Undercover FBI agents arrested Thad Roberts, 25, Tiffany Fowler, 22, and Gordon McWorter, 26, on Saturday in Orlando. They are charged with conspiracy to commit the theft of government property and transportation in interstate commerce of stolen property. Shae Saur, 19, was arrested in Houston and charged with conspiracy, FBI officials said. Roberts, Fowler and Saur have been fired from the space center, Herring said. Their job descriptions were not immediately known. No one answered the phone at the Tampa federal public defender's office after hours Monday, and it could not be determined whether the suspects have attorneys. Undercover agents received an e-mail tip in May and started communicating with a person offering ''priceless moon rocks'' collected by Apollo astronauts in 1969 and the early 1970s, FBI agent James Jarboe said. The ad was placed May 9 on the Web site of the Mineralogy Club of Antwerp, Belgium, according to the criminal complaint filed Monday in federal court in Tampa. 2002 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/news/0702/23moonrocks.html From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Jul 24, 2002 2:30 am Subject: Notes on Trevor's dubs Trevor's dubs arrived today, and here are a few items I noticed looking over some of the tapes: The overall quality is quite good. Particularly the color and reception are the best of any of the episode sets we've seen up to now. The only tapes we have that top this set are the pro "Probe" pilot tape and that 16mm transfer of "Let Us Prey." "The Murrow Disappearance" has the same lounge music dubbed over much of Act 3, just as Russo's earlier Australian Network 10 version. This music in Trevor's version seems to be less loud and obtrusive compared to Russo's. As pointed out earlier, the NBC version had no music during these Act 3 scenes where Lockwood spots the lens system, etc. "Suffer My Child" is from Network 10, as the logo appears at the start of Act 1. This is also a 35mm version and cable-quality. This episode is probably the very best of Trevor's lot in terms of overall picture quality. The question arises, how did Trevor get a Sydney Network 10 SEARCH episode? All his other ones mention "NTN" during the closing credits, NTN being located toward the opposite coast in Perth? (Actingman told me later that "Suffer" was taped by Trevor's wife before they met.) "Flight to Nowhere," Lockwood's fight scene with Anderson is edited, just as is Russo's Network 10 version. Same thing goes for the fight scene at the end of "Numbered for Death." "Goddess of Destruction" is more watchable, more colorful, plus we finally get to see most of the teaser. "The Mattson Papers" is a vast improvement over what we had before. I notice also that the sound is richer in quality. The washed out Armed Forces version did somehow manage to do something I've never seen anywhere else. The black and white people in it had the same skin tone--blue. :-) --Don H. From: "rbrfab" Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 1:39 pm Subject: Re: Notes on Trevor's dubs Hi Don. Glad you're enjoying Trevor's versions. Another point I noticed comparing his with the 16 mm version of 'Let us Prey' is that the scene where Bianco is being tortured by Danzig through the replacement implant has been cut--presumably they wanted to reduce the length of time we see him in pain. As a result we lose the Cameron line'Come on! Find the channel! Reach for him!' in the body of the episode, tho' it's still in the teaser. I remember the scene was intact when it was shown in the UK in 1973. Not so sure if the fight in 'Numbered' was also intact, but I still have an audio cassette of that and will try to remember to check. How sensitive these network controllers thought the audience must be! Richard > > "Flight to Nowhere," Lockwood's fight scene with Anderson is edited, just as > is Russo's Network 10 version. Same thing goes for the fight scene at the > end of "Numbered for Death." > From: "dghprobe3" Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 10:46 pm Subject: Re: Notes on Trevor's dubs --- In probe_control@y..., richard.rutherford@c... wrote: > the scene where Bianco is being tortured by Danzig through the > replacement implant has been cut--presumably they wanted to reduce > the length of time we see him in pain... That certainly could be the case. I also notice that on most of the Aussie SEARCH eps, we see a sort of rating ("PGR") superimposed usually somewhere during the opening teaser. However, on both Russo's and Trevor's "Let Us Prey," the teaser has "AO" superimposed. A different rating due to the scenes of torture and/or the threat of torture? Back in message 235, I noted that the BBC had banned some four classic Star Trek episodes in England due to a form of violence relating to torture. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/235 In a follow up in message 926, Len mentioned that those episodes were later run and that the uncut videos were available before that. He also mentioned that an ST-TMP episode was banned because of a reference to the IRA, and that a number of "violent moments" have been cut from various ST-TMP episodes. Again, uncut tapes of ST-TMP are also available in the UK. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/926 It may be that these Aussie versions of SEARCH were cut this way for England and perhaps other countries too. Can anyone confirm? --Don H. From: "observer345" Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 1:16 am Subject: 30 years later - redux Thanks to the kindness of Don Harden, I've seen all the remaining episodes except, of course Getaway... er... Ends of the Earth, and that one I've heard the audio. I remember wondering why they couldn't locate him via his dental transmitter in that episode. Oh well. The tapes arrived last Saturday and, of course, I spent the next two days watching tapes, taking only short breaks for little niceties like napping a few hours. I wish I'd posted or at least made notes right after watching, or at least before this, but... Okay, I've come to the conclusion that my memories of the opening credits/teaser were in error. What I doubtless saw was a promo for the show, since the scenes I remember best are from different episodes. Bianco threatening to jam a platter in someone's mouth comes from... ugh... I don't remember. I think it was One Our Probes is Missing. And the shot of the stunt guy doing a cool looking elbow roll across a street comes from The Bullet. The only way I could have seen both -- WITH Bianco's dialogue was in a promo. I wonder what happened to those promos? I'd forgotten the ending of Moonrock. I remember being disappointed that the hero didn't "win" in that one 30 years ago. Today, I can appreciate it better. First, it compares it to the Maltese Falcon ending, and second it gives back to the series as a whole a higher sense of risk/suspense; the good guys don't always win! This was something I really appreciated about Blake's 7. All three of the probes are entertaining, but I still stand by my original judgement of liking Lockwood best. Now when are the suits at WB going to release it on VHS or DVD? *sigh* Hmmm... Hugh O'Brian is a partial owner? I doubt they'd make a new series after only 23 episodes and one movie 30 years ago, but... Maybe O'Brian as Lockwood in the Dr. Laurent role and Ms. Tompkins or Franciosa as their former character in the Cameron role... Ah, but a guy can dream. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 1:50 am Subject: OT(OffTopic): DVDs Demystified Since some of us are exploring the move to DVDs, hopefully one day we will be able to see Search eps on that format. Here's a site that answers most DVD questions: http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 7:39 pm Subject: New Article in Files Section New article in the Files section: anamorphic.htm An article about correcting anamorphic filmclip scans in the computer. (Yes, I have run across at least one anamorphic SEARCH filmclip. See what I did to it.) If the link above doesn't work, go to the "Files" section, then open the folder "SEARCH Articles by Don Harden" and then click on anamorphic.htm. Thanks. From: "tomatprobe" Date: Wed Jul 31, 2002 8:00 pm Subject: Re: Notes on Trevor's dubs Just watched "Goddess of Destruction", it was good to finally see whats been going on in the dark scenes. I never realized Grover was attacked by two men in the warehouse. Did anyone else notice the Meusum of art stairs is where Lockwood dove for cover when the limo blew up? The night exerior of Bakers shop, isnt that the "empass at something or other" from "The Packagers". It all of a sudden looked real familiar. Speaking of the warehouse, it reminded me a little of the warehouse in "Suffer My Child". Or is this all just me ? --- In probe_control@y..., "dghprobe3" wrote: > --- In probe_control@y..., richard.rutherford@c... wrote: > > the scene where Bianco is being tortured by Danzig through the > > replacement implant has been cut--presumably they wanted to reduce > > the length of time we see him in pain... > > That certainly could be the case. I also notice that on most of the > Aussie SEARCH eps, we see a sort of rating ("PGR") superimposed > usually somewhere during the opening teaser. > > However, on both Russo's and Trevor's "Let Us Prey," the teaser > has "AO" superimposed. A different rating due to the scenes of > torture and/or the threat of torture? > > Back in message 235, I noted that the BBC had banned some four > classic Star Trek episodes in England due to a form of violence > relating to torture. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/235 > > In a follow up in message 926, Len mentioned that those episodes were > later run and that the uncut videos were available before that. He > also mentioned that an ST-TMP episode was banned because of a > reference to the IRA, and that a number of "violent moments" have > been cut from various ST-TMP episodes. Again, uncut tapes of ST- TMP > are also available in the UK. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/926 > > It may be that these Aussie versions of SEARCH were cut this way for > England and perhaps other countries too. Can anyone confirm? > > --Don H.