From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 4:13 am Subject: Forwarding a message from Adam Always happy to help out. ------MESSAGE FROM ADAM--------- Hi, John, I'm sending this to you in the hopes that it will wind up on the message board. I always have trouble with the Yahoo boards since my memberships keep dropping out. It's not just the Search board, but with others, such as the one on 77 Sunset Strip. I noted with pleasure Marta's write-ups on the people she met at the convention, and especially her encounters with Peter Mark Richmond. Mr. Richmond is one of those actors who always catches my eye. His charisma is such that he can play hero--such as in his short-lived 1961 series, Cain's Hundred, in which he played a former syndicate lawyer turned to the side of the angels--or a villain with equal facility. His talent is such that he can deliver excellent performances and rise above even lousy films, such as Friday the 13th Part VII. It's a bit of a pleasant coincidence to find Marta speaking of Mr. Richmond, since for about a year now, I have engaged in regular correspondence with and struck up a friendship of sorts with the actress Marlyn Mason, who, along with Mr. Richmond, co- starred with James Franciscus on the old television show Longstreet. Which provides a convenient segue: Marlyn Mason was one of the hardest working actress on television in the 1960's and 1970's. I don't think a week went by in the mid-'60's where she didn't appear as a guest star on some show. What I don't know is if she ever appeared on Search. I checked some of the listings for her, such as on IMdB; none of them list Search among her credits, yet there are lots of omissions on those listings, as well. She just had too many appearances for all of them to be listed. But it would not be a surprise at all to find out that she did do a Search episode. (In fact, it would be more surprising if she didn't.) Can one of you Search stalwarts advise? I have to say, I admire Marta's tenacity in going to the TZ Convention and seeking these folks out. It's an awful lot of work, including lots of standing in queue, as a rule, and by needs, the time one usually gets with the celebrity is brief. Also, for my own part, I never quite know what to say, especially since I doubt I wouldn't be saying anything that the celebrity hasn't already heard a thousand times that day. For her to be able to make an impact with those celebrities--and Mr. Richmond, in particular; to the point where he thought to send you an e-mail--is considerable testimony to her own graciousness. Because of the foregoing, I never attend conventions--with one exception. Not to steal Marta's thunder, I mention this, but because it underscores a point which Marta saw and made mention of, herself. One of the actresses whom I had always wanted to contact was Patricia Blair--of The Rifleman and Daniel Boone. However, in those pre- Internet days (for me), I had not been able to find an address for her. In late summer of 1996, I had just transferred to Charlotte, North Carolina-where my wife and I make our home, now-and I had only been there for a day or two when I noticed in the newspaper a write- up of the annual Western Film Fare which is almost always held in Charlotte. The article mentioned that Patricia Blair would be in attendance; in fact, it was her first convention. The location of the Film Fare was near my new office, so the next day, after checking in, I went to the Hilton where the convention was being held. Since I was in uniform, I got received a bit more graciously than the average attendee (as my retirement looms in about a year, I realise I am going to miss the doors that open for me by wearing my uniform). My good fortune, I happened to catch Miss Blair during a transition between events. She was seated alone at her table, with no-one else in line. I stepped up and engaged her in conversation. She was a bit surprised that I had nothing for her to sign, nor asked for anything. I explained that my only purpose was to thank her for the enjoyment her performances had given me. Much as with Marta's experience, some of Miss Blair's performances I recalled, she had forgotten about. We had a fun, in-depth chat. I asked her how she felt about her first convention experience, and her reaction was memorable. Her eyes moistened, as she told me that she had no idea that so many people remembered her and how genuinely touched she was to be so well-received. By that time, I became aware of a line starting to form behind me, and I didn't think it was fair to monopolise her time, so I begged off. That was when I made a goof I am still kicking myself over. As I mentioned to her that I should move on and give the other folks in line a chance, Miss Blair patted the chair next to her and invited me to sit so we could continue our talk--and I, like an idiot, declined! The fact of the matter was, me--the old war vet--was feeling as self-conscious and shy as a ten-year-old boy talking to the teacher he has a crush on. So I demurred. Miss Blair insisted, then, that she sign something for me. I explained that I had brought nothing for her to sign. Now, one often hears stories, sadly all-too-true, about impolite, selfish fans at conventions. That's why I was surprised to suddenly feel a tap on my shoulder from the guy in line behind me. He reached into a folder he held, said "Here you go, fellow" and handed me an 8 x 10 of Miss Blair so she could sign it for me. I insisted on paying the man for his generosity, but he refused. That experience is why I get such a kick out of Marta's comments about the reactions of the people with whom she spoke. I know they genuinely do appreciate and are moved by fans who are sincere in their respect and admiration, such as Marta and her husband are. And as Marta discovered, it's a "win-win" situation for both the celebrity and herself when that happens. I'd love to hear any more stories she has about the convention. I'm a bit jealous of her, too, for having the opportunity to meet Anne Francis. Every impression I get of her is that she is a warm, generous person. Several years ago, I sent her a letter, and she replied with a nice photo (even though I didn't ask for one) and a short note. It was friendly and appreciative, but little more than a "thanks-for-writing" kind of thing (which I understand completely; I bet she still receives a ton of fan mail), so I never continued the correspondence outside of a thank-you note back. Marta's comments reminded me of Jim Alexander's conversation with Ginny Golden a while back; and I know from my own experiences what a singular moment meeting someone like that can be. Television and cinema is such a one-way form of communication, and no matter how blasé or worldly one is, there is always a thrill to meet an admired figure from the screen. But the best part is to learn that they also get a kick out of it. Adam From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 5:09 am Subject: Marlyn Mason It was good to hear from Adam again. I did a little checking and found that Marlyn Mason did not appear in any SEARCH episode. However, a year before SEARCH, she did appear in the 1971 movie "Harpy" with Hugh O'Brian: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0065816 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 3:56 pm Subject: this & that Hello everyone Hello Marta Garry Walberg. Considering how many people you sited at being at the convention had their agents with them, he might well be still on their books. Don’t you people an equivalent to the UK Actors Spotlight volumes you can access at some of the bigger libraries?? They tend to note which actor belongs to which agency. Hello Richard Re: http://www.pertici.btinternet.co.uk/. Nothing to do with me but considering how little info on ‘Search’ was released in UK mags, I’m not surprised I was borrowed from. If it was me though, I would make a better job of my spelling & avoided some of the mistakes its author made. Hello Don I heard the news about CD upgrades rather than DVD last week, although I’m not surprised it’s happening with the latter as well. What is a pain with the CD changes to something called CD-A or something close is that its not backward compatible ie unless they keep manufacturing CD players, your CDs could be useless in a few years time. The inherent problem for CD/DVD manufacturers is that once the product is bought, it’s unlikely to wear out. By announcing ‘improvements’ they’re going to try to take control of your buying power & force everyone to change every decade. Personally, I think this is a stupid mistake. The majority of people aren’t going to want to change their collections regularly & the reverse might happen instead. People will become very selective of what they buy & stay with old technology. Keep hold of your old CD players as there’s bound to be a market for them in the future. & on that cheery note, gotta go Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** 'SFCrowsnest.com PageRanked by Google as the 3rd most popular science fiction site on the Internet' Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com *************************************************** From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 7:02 pm Subject: RE: [probe_control] Forwarding a message from Adam Re: Anne Francis. My husband had a crush on her back when "Honey West" was on, and told her so. He asked if he could get a hug, and she said sure, so he leaned over the table at her. She went "Whoa!!!," and said she thought he was jumping over the table at her; she apologized, though, and said she had assumed he was going to come around the other side of the table. She said it reminded her of the time Robert Blake jumped over a table to hug her! My husband got his hug, on the tape yet, but now I'm teasing him about lunging at Anne Francis. After that, he was so embarassed he didn't ask her for a Honey West photo, so we're going to have to write her for a signed photo ourselves. I remember Marlyn Mason very well, and she's another of those stars who appeared in every single series ever, I think. Combat! was on the air for 5 years, and at about the same time as TZ, and Outer Limits for 2 years, so there was a lot of overlap among all these stars at the convention which gave us ample space to work in for screenshots. I was focusing on Outer Limits and Night Gallery, then TZ or a film they were in, and my husband was focusing on Combat! and whatever films he likes they were in. As Jim Alexander and I have talked several times, bringing decent screenshots of their work that they haven't seen in some time really makes them look at you as an actual person, rather than a fan. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@b..., Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: "Skip Brown" Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 8:46 pm Subject: Copyright information, and a bold question Hi gang… I am back into the mix again. To update information from nearly six months ago, I was not able to borrow any of the 16 mm SEARCH prints available in the Washington area, as my interlibrary system does not trade with them. The listed titles for Search 16mm prints are still available on the www.envol.dra.com site (search under Leslie Stevens gives the best results). I have been curious about the rights ownership of Search, and found out a few interesting tidbits from the United States Copyright Offices. (see www.copyright.gov) . According to Circular 22, published by the U.S. Copyright Offices, the CCE or Catalogue of Copyright Entries cannot tell you who owns the current rights to a motion picture work “because the Catalogue does not include entries for assignments or other recorded documents, it cannot be used for searches involving the ownership of rights” and “does not include the address of the copyright claimant”. In the Envol database, the 16mm print of the episode “The Clayton Lewis Document” is copyright listed as: “Copyright: Warner Brothers, Inc. DCR 1973; PUB 14Feb73; REG 7Sep78; PA17-573.” The original copyright was issued on Feb. 14, 1973, and registered again on September 7, 1978 under category PA (Motion Picture) 17-573. Circular 22 also states “Works copyrighted between January 1, 1964 and December 31, 1977 are affected by the Copyright Renewal Act of 1992, which automatically extends the copyright term and makes renewal registrations optional.” Under old copyright laws, copyright was granted for 28 years from the initial registration. But the Copyright Renewal Act of 1992 and the Sonny Bono Term Extension Act of 1998 automatically extend the copyright to a full 95 years if it was published or copyrighted between January 1, 1964 and December 31, 1977. What does this mean? It means that for this particular episode of Search, the copyright may be owned until 2068, and does not have to be registered again until that time. Or perhaps because it was registered (optionally?) in 1978, it may mean that it is owned by someone until 2073. Now that I have totally fractured your minds with this information, let me ask the question….. Who owns the copyright for Search as a concept? Warner Brothers? The Stevens estate (since Leslie created the concept, and was the executive producer)? Obviously, Warner Brothers owns the finished product of the episodes that were filmed, but does that mean they have rights to the concept as well? Does anyone have any “ins” within the industry to find out for me? All my investigations have come up with nothing, and Probe Control has turned off my link, so I can’t get any help from Cam or his agents (I think they might all be out at Sherwin Williams looking for new wallpaper for the White Room).. Let me know what you can find out… Thanks guys! Keep in touch! Skip From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 8:53 pm Subject: Fwd: Search files - Set 1. Here is a NBC production photo I won off of ebay with Doug McClure and Mary Ann Mobley from "Short Circuit" and a local TV Guide with Hugh O'Brian and Joanne Pflug during the week "Moonrock" made it's first airing. Sorry, but there was no article/interview inside the magazine, just an overview of Search. My brother scanned these for me and I am not a computer expert, so hopefully someone can cut and past and put this on the Probe Control web page. Hope everyone enjoys. Chris From: Mark Metz Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 8:03 pm Subject: Search files - Set 1. To: dmanmetz@a... Here you go. Sorry to take so long. Let me know when you get them. Mark From: dmanmetz@a... Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 8:56 pm Subject: Fwd: Search files - Set 2. More local T.V. Guide promotion pictures of Hugh O'Brian or all to enjoy. Chris From: "Skip Brown" Date: Sun Sep 1, 2002 9:10 pm Subject: RE: [probe_control] Fwd: Search files - Set 1. Good collection there, Chris… I chuckled when I saw the cover of the TV FACTS noting that the episode of “Moonrock” was to air Wednesday at 9:00 pm. Must be within the CENTRAL time zone…. : ) Skip From: cdrrabenson@a... Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 1:23 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Forwarding a message from Adam As Jim Alexander and I have talked several times, bringing decent screenshots of their work that they haven't seen in some time really makes them look at you as an actual person, rather than a fan. I think you and Jim have stated the key perfectly. I have had unusual good fortune in getting to know many of these celebrities and numbering some of them as friends, having been a house guest or a dinner date with them. Cheryl is no longer surprised at who I might get a telephone call from. I don't think I have ever heard it encapsulated as well as you have, though. All of my contacts with these folk originated with letters from me, and in looking back--and taking your words into account--I see what I did was come across as a real person, rather than a fan. My comments about their work were specific and constructive, and not always (though mostly, of course) complimentary (which is well-received, I have found, if the criticism is constructive and accurate). To be candid, with an eye toward the fact that even those whose names are not as publicly known as they used to be still have a concern over stalkers and the various nut cases we have heard about, I always tried to work in some small comments about myself and my wife and career. In short, assuring these people that I am not some drooling fanboy who will take any positive note as an invitation to show up on their doorstep. In other words, I extend the same respect in my letters that I am sure you and your husband did in person, Marta. There is one other rule I always followed--and it doesn't really apply to your situation at a convention because it is part and parcel of such events--but I never asked for anything, not even an autograph. Not only is it good policy, but it never sat right me to write someone of my admiration and respect for their work, then hit them up for a photo or something. Again, at a convention, these things are expected and often money is exchanged, so it's not an indictment of convention-goers. I had a funny experience with Lynn Borden at lunch a couple of years ago, the upshot of which was that she told me that the reason why she felt comfortable inviting me into her circle--as opposed to her other fans--was that I had never asked her for anything. But a story even more to the point: several years ago, I wrote Robert Young a letter. I grew up with George Reeves as Superman and Clayton Moore as the Lone Ranger, and I took many of my values from the ethics their characters espoused; but the person I viewed as the best of them all was Robert Young as Jim Anderson, on Father Knows Best. Jim Anderson represented the everyday decency and heroism in the common man. (It took me a long time to screw up the courage to write him; it's a funny thing, but the more I respected an individual, the harder it was for me to write him.) I told him of this; the essence of my letter was, while nobody could practically expect Robert Young to be as perfect a person as "Jim Anderson", there had to be a lot of "Jim Anderson" in him for him to be able to bring off the character so believably. A few weeks later, a parcel was brought to my door, addressed to me. I was puzzled because I had not ordered anything of late; when I opened it, it was a lobby card--those heavy cardboard advertisements for films that used to hang in theatres before posters--of one of Robert Young's movies, The Blue and the Gray, in which he had played a midshipman at the Naval Academy. In the corner, Mr. Young had signed it. Along with the lobby card was a note from a man named Fredricks--he and his wife were caretakers for Mr. Young in his later years--with a telephone number, asking me to call him. I did so. I discovered that my letter had made an impression on two counts. First, Mr. Fredricks was a retired Navy captain. Second, and more important, Mr. Young had been tickled to death by my letter. Most significant, said CAPT Fredricks was the fact that I had not asked Mr. Young for anything. He told me that, until mine, Mr. Young had never received a fan letter that didn't hit him up for something--an autograph or whatnot. And because of that (and presumably, what I had written) he had taken one of his own souvenirs, signed it, and sent it to me. Then, the phone was passed to Mr. Young, and that began a series of telephone conversations I exchanged with him before he died. Thanks for telling me of your husband's exchange with Anne Francis. I, too, am a big Honey West fan. I have a few episodes of her show on tape, and it was remarkably well done. I am also a Combat! fan--next to The Fugitive, I believe it was most consistently the best television show ever written. (I've learnt over time, that there are two kinds of Combat fans--those who prefer the "Sergeant Saunders" episodes and those who prefer the "Lieutenant Hanley" episodes. While both actors were excellent, I fall into the "Hanley" camp, although the infrequent episodes where both stars have equal time are really the best ones.) As I said before, I am as tickled for you and Steve for your encounters as I would have been had I had the opportunity, and as I was when Jim Alexander told us of his conversation with Ginny Golden. I particularly enjoyed reading of his conversation with her because it made me reëxamine her performance in the pilot and the series. I had been overwhelmed by my involvement with Angel, but taking the time to look at Miss Golden's performance, I can see where she took a relatively minor part and made it distinct, giving her "Miss Keach" a contrasting personality from "Gloria Harding", and she much deserved to have her part amplified on the series. Thanks again for sharing your stories. Adam Benson From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 2:24 pm Subject: RE: [probe_control] Forwarding a message from Adam Your experience with Robert Young sounds delightful; he obviously enjoyed what you had to say and wanted to talk with you. What a great experience. Our daughter had the same kind of experience with Jim Backus years ago. In 1985 when she was 6 she loved “Gilligan’s Island” and Mr. Magoo, so Jim Backus was one of her favorites even then. We looked up his address, and she wrote out a letter to him. She was only 6, but we helped her and she wrote it herself. We sent it off, and in a few weeks she received a package from him. It had a signed photo, which she hadn’t asked for, and several Mr. Magoo items, including a coloring book and a puzzle book, all from the early 60’s, which had come from his personal collection. She was thrilled, and to this day she till talks about how wonderful it was to get that package from him. We have sent him, and since he died, his widow, a Christmas card every year, just because they were such lovely people. The “fanboy” persona is what they are looking to avoid, and I don’t blame them. We have been involved in quite a few conventions over the years, both as attendees and as planners of the convention, and you do run into that type quite a bit. Luckily they are not too prevalent, but some of them are truly scary in their intensity. At this convention last weekend, the first person we met was Cliff Robertson. There was a line for him, since he was only there on Saturday, and we didn’t want to miss him. The person in front of us and the one behind us could be put in the fanboy group, but they were milder types. My husband told the gentleman behind us to go in front of us, since he was going to take the picture of the other man with Cliff, and vice versa; we’d had enough time in line for them to set up the arrangement. That way, they’d be out of our hair before we got the chance to talk to Cliff. We’ve got them both on tape, and there is a marked difference in the way Mr. Robertson talked to them and the way he talked to us. He didn’t say much at all to them, and they were very chummy with him, as if they’d known him for some time. When he talked to us, we’d caught his attention with the Outer Limits and the PT109 screenshot, and even with the Spiderman shot. He asked us several questions, made conversation, and acted like he was truly interested in what we had to say; nothing like he acted with the two men in front of us. He even mentioned that the lady sitting with him had been his secretary since his first film role, and that next year she was going to sign her own photos. We all laughed at that, but it shows that if you treat the man with respect and don’t fawn over him, he’ll know you’re a person and not a fanboy. I’m sure there are some celebrities who want that fawning, but no one at the con last week acted in that way, at all. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@bestcare.org, Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: "island_priest" Date: Mon Sep 2, 2002 5:00 pm Subject: Introduction I'm happy to see that there a few who remember this series during its run in 1972-73. I was not able to watch it on a regular basis due to its hour and the majority of my family vetoing my viewing attempts (That engendered some resentment). I saw a fair number of the episodes, but I have since been disappointed not to see it in syndicated reruns. Are we able to lobby either SCI-FI or TVLand to broadcast it? If I were to chose favorite episodes the would be "The Bullit", "The Packagers", and "The Gold Machine". They were among the more suspense-filled episodes of SEARCH. From: "dghprobe3" Date: Tue Sep 3, 2002 11:49 pm Subject: Re: Fwd: Search files - Set 1. Chris: As always, thanks for the great job you've been doing in finding SEARCH articles and photos and sharing them with us. The photo of McClure and Mobley next to the exploding "fuse box" ran in The Atlanta Journal a few days before the episode first ran back in September '72. Several years ago I tried making a printout from the newspaper microfilm, but it came out muddy looking. Thanks for providing us with a clearer copy of the pic. If you are able to make your own CD-Rs, you might go ahead and make 300 or 400 dpi scans of these articles and pics, and send them up to Actingman, that way he'd have a high-quality scan to work with in posting them to the website. Recently I sent Actingman a CD filled with SEARCH clippings and photos scanned from my collection. I'll send the links when he's finished posting everything. --Don H. From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Sep 4, 2002 12:05 am Subject: 'Countdown to Panic' grabs posted Actingman has just posted the 171 video grabs I sent him from: Countdown to Panic The most notable thing about this episode is that it was the only Lockwood episode filmed after the Probe Control set change. I also notice that the Probe set was darkened somewhat with small spotlights shining downward onto the rear walls. The two earlier episodes, "24 Carat Hit" and "Numbered for Death," are the only ones in which the Probe set was more brightly lit. For a shot of Lockwood in the front yard of "The Partridge Family" in front of Darren Stephens' house at the infamous Columbia Ranch facade neighborhood: http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/imagepages/Panic030.html From: dghprobe3@a... Date: Wed Sep 4, 2002 12:32 am Subject: SEARCH listings, reviews, articles, etc Actingman has posted most of the SEARCH related items I sent him in a new section of www.probecontrol.com -- To see tv listings, reviews, ads, articles about Search: http://probecontrol.com/clips.html Included are TV Guide listings, ads and articles. Plus publicity photos and articles of Hugh O'Brian and Tony Franciosa. As well as articles and obits for Doug McClure. And more. Hope everyone enjoys. :-) To zero in on each subsection, you can use these links as well: TV Guide Magazine's capsule descriptions of each Search episode, as well as ads for the show. TV Guide's cover story on Search Reviews, ads and publicity photos: Search Articles and pictures relating to Search in some way (the stars later works, obits, Search mentions, etc.) --Don H. From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Wed Sep 4, 2002 1:53 am Subject: RE: [probe_control] SEARCH listings, reviews, articles, etc Thanks bunches for all the wonderful stuff; I was especially interested in reading about Ahna Capri, and her talking about finishing “Enter the Dragon” with Bruce Lee when it was still under it’s working title. And, several months before Bruce Lee died. The TV guide article on Hugh was also something I’d never read, and it was pretty interesting. After an occurrence like that, I’d change my name, too. J Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@bestcare.org, Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: "rraucci2" Date: Wed Sep 4, 2002 3:26 pm Subject: Search 1987 Those of you on this list might be interested in Leslie Stevens' next- to-last film, Three Kinds Of Heat, starring Robert Ginty. It was made in 1987 for Cannon Films, and is a lot like an updated Search episode. Our hero (Elliot Cromwell) isn't a Probe agent, he's a diplomat/investigator with Interpol, but he does get his instructions from headquarters via a videoscreen. He has a walkie-talkie that works anywhere. He uses a computer system to track down clues. Add to this a double-crossing ex-agent, an infernal machine, glamourous hardworking female cohorts, international intrigue, cars exploding, and whatnot, and you get a fair approximation of what Seach might have been like in the Reagan era. Even the ending is a reprise of the Probe pilot's ending. Not-bad movie cheese, with Sylvester McCoy as the bad-guy maniac, and Barry Foster as the ex-agent that nobody should trust for a minute. Here's the imbd link: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0094135 You can follow that page to an Amazon link with used VHS copies for around three bucks. Richard Date: Wed Sep 4, 2002 3:31 pm Subject: THREE KINDS OF HEAT Richard-- Thanks for the THREE KINDS OF HEAT review! I was aware of this title, and passed it up once--as a used copy at a video store--and always regretted that decision! I've looked for it ever since. I may spring for one of those $3 copies! Thanks again-- Jim From: dghprobe3@aol.com Date: Thu Sep 5, 2002 9:34 pm Subject: 'Find Articles' on Tony Franciosa Find Articles Home Page 4 article(s) related to: "Tony Franciosa" Bridal Party Announced for Liza Minnelli/David Gest Wedding Saturday, March 16, 2002 in New York. NEW YORK -- The bridal party for the wedding of producer David Gest ("Michael Jackson: 30th Anniversary Celebration") and superstar Liza Minnelli on... From PR Newswire, February 21 2002 Page(s): 2 A Winters tale. (interview with Shelley Winters)(Interview) Shelley Winters got her break in 'A Double Life' in 1947 and she was with Universal studio until 1955. Then she became an observer of Method Acting at... From Interview, May 01 1996 by Graham Fuller Page(s): 5 Thalians To Honor Ruta Lee, Pay Tribute to Jack Haley Jr. at 46th Annual Ball. Entertainment Editors From Business Wire, October 01 2001 Page(s): 2 (Article also mentions Hugh O'Brian) Welcome to My Pew.(TheFrontPage) Byline: Rex Reed From New York Observer, The, March 25 2002 Page(s): 7 From: dghprobe3@aol.com Date: Sat Sep 7, 2002 11:44 pm Subject: SEARCH & Watergate? In a private email, new contact David wondered if Watergate had any effect on SEARCH. Jim Alexander replied that it had little, if any, effect and I agree. Below is the email I sent to them enlarging on other aspects of the question. If anyone wants to jump in or add something to this, please do so. :-) Hi Jim (and David): I don't know how much of an effect Watergate may have had on SEARCH. The break-in was June 17, 1972 and "Murrow Disappearance" began filming the week before, which was coincidentally based in Washington. There was a story in the news a year or so earlier, when cheating was discovered in Las Vegas, similar to the card cheating story in "Murrow." I recall that Watergate didn't become a "hot" story until later. The networks strangely waited until AFTER Nixon was re-elected in Nov. 1972 to start beating the drums over Watergate. Only one other episode of SEARCH was based in Washington, "The Clayton Lewis Document." That episode has nothing similar to Watergate, however, it has echoes of the 1972 Thomas Eagleton affair. Recall that during the 1972 election, it came out that George McGovern's running mate, Eagleton, had spent time out for psychological treatment a few years earlier (similar to Clayton Lewis). When this came out, the networks made a scandal of it, implying that a "crazy person" was going to be a "heartbeat away" from the presidency. McGovern dropped Eagleton and picked Sargent Shriver of the Kennedy family to be his vice-presidential running mate on the Democratic ticket. The only other political episode was "The Adonis File," and today it plays more like the Bill Clinton story than anything connected to Watergate. There was a somewhat strange movie which came out during the mid-70's which touched on Watergate. It was "The Conversation" with Gene Hackman. There was a scene which discussed political bugging similar to what happened at the Watergate Hotel. Now that I think of it, there weren't that many movies or TV shows that really said much about Watergate. That story was mainly left to the network news programs. What do you think? :-) --Don H. From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sun Sep 8, 2002 10:19 am Subject: RE: [probe_control] SEARCH & Watergate? It seems like it took a long time for the Watergate fiasco to trickle down to everyone’s consciousness, and I don’t think Search was on long enough for the show to have been impacted by it. In “All the President’s Men,” they even say no one wanted to believe it really happened until they couldn’t ignore it any longer, and the sheer weight of the facts began to bog down Nixon’s presidency. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@bestcare.org, Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley -----Original Message----- From: dghprobe3@aol.com [mailto:dghprobe3@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 10:44 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] SEARCH & Watergate? In a private email, new contact David wondered if Watergate had any effect on SEARCH. Jim Alexander replied that it had little, if any, effect and I agree. Below is the email I sent to them enlarging on other aspects of the question. If anyone wants to jump in or add something to this, please do so. :-) Hi Jim (and David): I don't know how much of an effect Watergate may have had on SEARCH. The break-in was June 17, 1972 and "Murrow Disappearance" began filming the week before, which was coincidentally based in Washington. There was a story in the news a year or so earlier, when cheating was discovered in Las Vegas, similar to the card cheating story in "Murrow." I recall that Watergate didn't become a "hot" story until later. The networks strangely waited until AFTER Nixon was re-elected in Nov. 1972 to start beating the drums over Watergate. Only one other episode of SEARCH was based in Washington, "The Clayton Lewis Document." That episode has nothing similar to Watergate, however, it has echoes of the 1972 Thomas Eagleton affair. Recall that during the 1972 election, it came out that George McGovern's running mate, Eagleton, had spent time out for psychological treatment a few years earlier (similar to Clayton Lewis). When this came out, the networks made a scandal of it, implying that a "crazy person" was going to be a "heartbeat away" from the presidency. McGovern dropped Eagleton and picked Sargent Shriver of the Kennedy family to be his vice-presidential running mate on the Democratic ticket. The only other political episode was "The Adonis File," and today it plays more like the Bill Clinton story than anything connected to Watergate. There was a somewhat strange movie which came out during the mid-70's which touched on Watergate. It was "The Conversation" with Gene Hackman. There was a scene which discussed political bugging similar to what happened at the Watergate Hotel. Now that I think of it, there weren't that many movies or TV shows that really said much about Watergate. That story was mainly left to the network news programs. What do you think? :-) --Don H. From: "dghprobe3" Date: Sun Sep 8, 2002 1:41 pm Subject: Re: SEARCH & Watergate? --- In probe_control@y..., "Marta Dawes" wrote: > ...In "All the President's Men," they even say no one wanted to > believe it really happened until they couldn't ignore it any > longer, and the sheer weight of the facts began to bog down Nixon's > presidency... Now that you mention it, the movie "All The President's Men" was not released until 1976 (and it was a Warner Bros. movie, I'm sure that's just another coincidence). And I believe this was the only "official" movie totally dealing with Watergate. When the movie came out, though, I remember folks like Kissinger saying stuff similar to "well, that's not quite the way it happened," etc. So who knows for sure? :-) I don't think Watergate was dealt with in any depth again until Oliver Stone's "Nixon" movie with Anthony Hopkins back around 1992, however that was meant to be an overall look at Nixon's life with Watergate being an important chapter in the film. But, no, other than the surveillance angle already being there, Watergate apparently had no effect on SEARCH. Back then it was somewhat rare for a TV series to be topical with something relating to then-current news. I believe "All in the Family" was one of the first and few shows back then to be topical that way. --Don H. From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Sun Sep 8, 2002 4:55 pm Subject: WaterSearch more like Mission: Impossible Hello everyone Hello Skip Re: Ownership. Although creators might say they have ownership of any idea & may indeed have a clause in their contracts that means they are involved in any future work in their series - Roddenberry is a good example of this even if the studio did side-step him a little/lot - the studio pays the bills & thus has overall ownership. Another way to get creators off their shows is to get them working on new shows as well as witnessed with Joss Whedon with 'Firefly'. The studio wants to capitalise on their creators' talent before another studio buys them out. You Americans should be aware of how your economy is run & what motivates people over there far more than a Brit having to point it out to you. Writers, even creators, aren't regarded as being particularly high up the production ladder at any time in Hollywood history which is a bit stupid cos without them the ideas would have started. Probably why so many writers want a producer credit these days as well to ensure they get what they want to say on the screen. So, Warner Brothers owns 'Search'. With the way some series are being resurrected as films or even new series sometimes, no studio in their right mind is going to part with any property that might be exploited at a future date. Hello Marta The 'fanboys/girls' tend to be on the loud & demanding side, don't they?? I think it does help not to confuse the actor with any of the roles they've played or expect them to be expert on the subjects they're actors have played. You wouldn't expect to see Gillian Anderson perform an autopsy in real life for instance. Knowing the various work they've done & what they enjoyed the most gets the conversation going & doesn't require much homework these days. Hello Don Re: Watergate. The one program it could have had an effect on was Mission: Impossible but it didn't. I often wondered why M:I wasn't pulled from the start but then it would mean the CIA would be admitting things like that - well, not quite like that - went on, which it did. These days, with all the technology in place, 'Search' is far more viable as films like 'True Lies' points out. I doubt if a private company like World Securities would be running it though. It would be strictly government run & tapes wiped rather than be kept. Gotta go Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** 'SFCrowsnest.com PageRanked by Google as the 3rd most popular science fiction site on the Internet' Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com *************************************************** From: dghprobe3@aol.com Date: Sun Sep 8, 2002 10:16 pm Subject: Topical references in Search episodes After the Watergate question, I started thinking about the various SEARCH episodes and tried to recall anything that was particularly topical in them. Here are some notes I made: "The Murrow Disappearance" - Apparently, and according to Variety, a year or two earlier, there was a real-life event in Las Vegas where cheating at some of the games was discovered, including the use of overhead viewing systems. Also, the references to "When You're Hot, You're Hot," which was a popular Jerry Reed song at the time. Then the references to women's liberation and Gloria Harding's salary increase. Also Saratoga mentions "Cold War all over again." At the time, the US and Soviets were engaging in what was known then as "detente" or "peaceful co-existence." "The Gold Machine" - There are references to Indo-China, which hint at the VietNam war which was going on at the time. Charles Eastland's record is given and the year 1971 is mentioned. "Moonrock" has the references to and footage from the space program. The last public trip to the moon was around December 1972 as I recall. "One of Our Probes is Missing" has the line by Stefanie Powers referring to Henry Kissinger. The year 1971 is mentioned as different dossiers are read. "Short Circuit" and "In Search of Midas" has Grover saying "Heavy!" which was a common catchword at the time. Burt Reynolds and others said it a lot in movies and shows back then. Of course, Grover's Corvette Stingray instantly harkens back to the 1970's. "The Adonis File" has Bill Bixby as "America's Number One Talk Show Host" aiming for the White House. At that time, the number one talk host was Johnny Carson, but I don't think Carson ever had any political ambitions. Anne Delaware's line, "He wouldn't be the first person in show business to make it in politics" hints at Ronald Reagan, who was Governor of California at the time, and aiming for the White House. "Suffer My Child" has references to VietNam, with Sam Field as an ex-veteran. A year after this episode aired, aspects of it somewhat paralleled the Patty Hearst kidnapping situation. A case where life sort of imitated SEARCH after the fact. "The Bullet" contains echoes of the Cold War and East-West tension. While it was not referred to as the Berlin Wall, that is what I thought of when I first saw this episode. "Let Us Prey" shows us a Probe's audio implant for the first time. It looked like one of those newfangled watch batteries that were introduced around the early 70's. The photographer, Joe Kittering, who took pictures of celebrities, reminded me of Ron Gallella, who was famous during the 70's as a celebrity paparrazi. "The Clayton Lewis Document," as I mentioned earlier, has overtones of the 1972 Thomas Eagleton affair. Eagleton was a vice-presidential candidate who had to withdraw his name after it came out that he received psychological treatment earlier in his career, somewhat similar to Clayton Lewis. "The Mattson Papers" was made during the time that "black-sploitation" movies and shows were becoming popular. The latest James Bond movie at the time was "Live and Let Die," which had a black cast. Singer Nancy Wilson was well known back then as well. I'm sure there are other topical references in the episodes, these are a few I could think of. If anyone else can add to or correct this list, please do so. Thanks. :-) --Don H. From: "worldsecanalyst" Date: Mon Sep 9, 2002 8:08 pm Subject: Jeff Corey I've just joined the group with this user id. I am sad to see that Jeff Corey passed recently. I've recently watched "The Outer Limits" episode "O.B.I.T." dealing with surveillance and privacy. Mr. Corey personally enjoyed that episode due to his take on individual liberties and freedom. He was blacklisted during the 50s due to McCarthyism, but he was among the few actors to restore his career. We owe Mr. Corey for another thing. An obscure actor named Leonard Nimoy joined his acting workshop. I do not believe that Leonard would have gotten the part as Spock for "Star Trek" nor Paris in "Mission: Impossible" had he not attended Jeff Corey's workshop. I was happy to see that one of his more recent parts was in "Bablylon 5" as the Middleman. I'm only sorry I've not had a chance to meet him. From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Mon Sep 9, 2002 8:15 pm Subject: RE: [probe_control] Jeff Corey "OBIT" is a particularly interesting episode, and does have parallels to Search and surveillance even today. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@bestcare.org, Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley -----Original Message----- From: worldsecanalyst [mailto:yorktowncmdr@aol.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:09 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] Jeff Corey I've just joined the group with this user id. I am sad to see that Jeff Corey passed recently. I've recently watched "The Outer Limits" episode "O.B.I.T." dealing with surveillance and privacy. Mr. Corey personally enjoyed that episode due to his take on individual liberties and freedom. He was blacklisted during the 50s due to McCarthyism, but he was among the few actors to restore his career. We owe Mr. Corey for another thing. An obscure actor named Leonard Nimoy joined his acting workshop. I do not believe that Leonard would have gotten the part as Spock for "Star Trek" nor Paris in "Mission: Impossible" had he not attended Jeff Corey's workshop. I was happy to see that one of his more recent parts was in "Bablylon 5" as the Middleman. I'm only sorry I've not had a chance to meet him. From: "Ken Carroll" Date: Tue Sep 10, 2002 5:04 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Jeff Corey "OBIT" is a particularly interesting episode, and does have parallels to Search and surveillance even today. Marta If anything, I think what OBIT warned us about is actually occuring on a certain level. Reality TV anyone? Or how about those little mini-cams you can put anywhere? People are getting more and more into peeping into other people's private stuff. Kinda scary. OBIT really had a strong message, that's one of my many faves from that series. Ken From: "worldsecanalyst" Date: Tue Sep 10, 2002 7:21 pm Subject: Watergate? I see that my allusion to the Watergate scandal has provided discussion fodder. The basis for my comparison was a general one. I thought that due to the issues Watergate evoked it raised societies consciousness on privacy and civil liberties. "Search" could easily contribute to the unknowing's or uninformed's fears about surveillance. The viewership throughout that period would want to shy away from the series. There was one episode that was clearly modeled both from a political scandal as a consequence of Thomas Eagleton becoming a VP running mate and the Daniel Ellsberg Pentagon Papers leak to the "New York Times." Both Eagleton and Ellsberg underwent psychiatric or psychological care. Eagleton's political career was ruined, and Ellsberg's life could have been ruined in a covert attempt to acquire his records. The Watergate scandal was not necessarily the sole nor main reason for cancellation. It provided an underlying factor. From: "worldsecanalyst" Date: Tue Sep 10, 2002 7:50 pm Subject: Search Inspiration I've seen one recent comparison of "Search" to "Mission: Impossible". They are both a similar in that they exemplify high- powered applications of science and technology. The 1969 movie "The Chairman" starring Gregory Peck provides a better similarity to "Search." Gregory Peck plays a American scientist with a transmitter implanted within his head. He is sent to Red China in the midst of the Cultural Revolution in the hopes to acquire the formula for an enzyme capable of suppressing the effects of weather on agricultural plants. This taut Cold War thriller has been broadcast on AMC in recent days, and it is a must-see for any "Search" fan. I'm sure Leslie Stevens has this movie in mind when her contrived "Search". This is one of those rare cases when I find the movie surpassing the book ("The Chairman" by Jay Richard Kennedy) in quality and content. From: "actingman_jc" Date: Tue Sep 10, 2002 10:28 pm Subject: Do NOT click on this link Someone is subscribing to various Yahoo mailing lists and posting a link and asking people to click on it saying "check this site out." The site is a bunch of pop-up ads...and nothing else. The scum is probably getting paid for the clicks...so he is tricking people into clicking onto his site. I will post the link down below, so you can see it...but please don't click on it. In fact...I will seperate the http so it won't come across as a clickable link....at least I hope it doesn't. We know each other pretty much, and any legit links that one of us shares always comes with an explanation as to what it is. If this person finds their way to our list, I will delete the message and ban them...otherwise be aware. The offending link is: h t t p://angelfire.lycos.com/ks3/ndhaej/index.html Again...it is a fraud...I don't think it is sending out viruses or anything, or capturing your browser window...but it stinks nevertheless. From: yorktowncmdr@aol.com Date: Wed Sep 11, 2002 10:32 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Do NOT click on this link Thanks for the tip on the bogus link. We don't need the likes of that. From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Thu Sep 12, 2002 2:59 am Subject: surveillance is as old as the hills Hello everyone Hello Don I think you'd find contemporary references in a lot of series of that time period. In 'Search's case it's more a case of reminding people that it was happening in the there & now as opposed to in the future. When you consider how many reviewers noted it as a 'futuristic series', I suspect Leslie Stevens thought that might be the case from the start & made sure it was played in the present with all those references. One thing for sure, he & his writers were totally ignorant about Britain. We don't pay tax separately when buying things. Even when VAT was introduced years later, it's added as the combined price. Neither can people outside of the police force or security forces get a warrant to search someone's premises either. Hello Yorktown (your parents liked aircraft carriers??) Re: Jeff Corey. McCarthyism is right up there with prohibition where opinion versus human nature doesn't get a balanced outlook. Hopefully, it's probably why your country's Bible Belt isn't going to get too strong a hold (hopefully). Re: Watergate. Black Bag operations have always been carried out usually with the country's interests at heart rather than for personal gain. What made Watergate significant was a president using it to ensure he had an edge in an election. 'Search' really only had their Probes bugged. Except for rare exceptions, they didn't leave their scanners after they left. If the series was revived today, I think that aspect would be reconsidered. Incidentally, does anyone know how the law rules in private citizens dropping listening/video bugs these days?? Depending on circumstances, is it espionage or industrial espionage & what happens if the police or feds come after you?? I remember seeing 'The Chairman' a few years back but the transmitter in Greg Peck's head wasn't for surveillance as I recall. Wasn't it linked to some sort of bomb?? Hello Ken & Marta If you want to really go hunting surveillance, one only has to look at George Orwell's '1984'. He was a few years early in some respects. Saying that, the USSR had their own surveillance even if they didn't rely on cameras. Any totalitarian government will want to keep an eye on what its citizens are doing. No one really considered the use of some of these cameras to keep an eye out for street crime as most of it is being used today. Then again, 20 years ago no one thought crime would need such measures either. Gotta go Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** 'SFCrowsnest.com PageRanked by Google as the 3rd most popular science fiction site on the Internet' Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com *************************************************** From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Thu Sep 12, 2002 2:59 am Subject: surveillance is as old as the hills Hello everyone Hello Don I think you'd find contemporary references in a lot of series of that time period. In 'Search's case it's more a case of reminding people that it was happening in the there & now as opposed to in the future. When you consider how many reviewers noted it as a 'futuristic series', I suspect Leslie Stevens thought that might be the case from the start & made sure it was played in the present with all those references. One thing for sure, he & his writers were totally ignorant about Britain. We don't pay tax separately when buying things. Even when VAT was introduced years later, it's added as the combined price. Neither can people outside of the police force or security forces get a warrant to search someone's premises either. Hello Yorktown (your parents liked aircraft carriers??) Re: Jeff Corey. McCarthyism is right up there with prohibition where opinion versus human nature doesn't get a balanced outlook. Hopefully, it's probably why your country's Bible Belt isn't going to get too strong a hold (hopefully). Re: Watergate. Black Bag operations have always been carried out usually with the country's interests at heart rather than for personal gain. What made Watergate significant was a president using it to ensure he had an edge in an election. 'Search' really only had their Probes bugged. Except for rare exceptions, they didn't leave their scanners after they left. If the series was revived today, I think that aspect would be reconsidered. Incidentally, does anyone know how the law rules in private citizens dropping listening/video bugs these days?? Depending on circumstances, is it espionage or industrial espionage & what happens if the police or feds come after you?? I remember seeing 'The Chairman' a few years back but the transmitter in Greg Peck's head wasn't for surveillance as I recall. Wasn't it linked to some sort of bomb?? Hello Ken & Marta If you want to really go hunting surveillance, one only has to look at George Orwell's '1984'. He was a few years early in some respects. Saying that, the USSR had their own surveillance even if they didn't rely on cameras. Any totalitarian government will want to keep an eye on what its citizens are doing. No one really considered the use of some of these cameras to keep an eye out for street crime as most of it is being used today. Then again, 20 years ago no one thought crime would need such measures either. Gotta go Geoff Willmetts ********* GF Willmetts **************************** 'SFCrowsnest.com PageRanked by Google as the 3rd most popular science fiction site on the Internet' Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com *************************************************** From: "dghprobe3" Date: Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:52 pm Subject: Re: surveillance is as old as the hills --- In probe_control@y..., "Geoff Willmetts" wrote: > I think you'd find contemporary references in a lot of series of > that time period... Hi Geoff: Good to hear from you again. What really happened was that Actingman sent me a package of Trevor's episodes and asked for reactions. The post I made about topical references were a bunch of little things I noticed about some of the episodes that couldn't be tied together any other way. :-) Someone once pointed out that shows can be too topical. For example, "I Love Lucy" is still funny to new audiences today because the situations Lucy gets herself into are universal and timeless. On the other hand, some episodes of "All in the Family" have lost their initial punch because they are full of jokes about then-President Nixon, which new audiences today have trouble identifying with. Getting back to SEARCH: If anyone out there has a video dub of "Ends of the Earth," please let us know! --Don H. From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:56 pm Subject: VHS copy of Corey in OUTER LIMITS "O.B.I.T." for sale Hiya, gang! Since we'd been talking about it... I just wanted to let anyone that might be interested know that I 'unearthed' a sealed, pre-recorded VHS copy of Jeff Corey's OUTER LIMITS episode, "O.B.I.T.", last night. Contact me off list, if anyone would like to purchase it for just a few bucks. Thanks! Jim probecontrol@sigecom.net From: "Kate" Date: Sun Sep 15, 2002 5:26 pm Subject: Search vhs received Sorry to use this for an individual message, but e-mail has let me down... I just want to let Jim know that I have received the Search tapes. Thanks very much for doing them. For some reason my e-mails to you have bounced back. Isn't it great, watching your first Search episode in nearly 30 years? As soon as that theme tune starts, it just takes you right back. I'm sure plenty of you can relate to this. Kate From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sun Sep 15, 2002 6:54 pm Subject: Search vhs received Kate Tann wrote to Jim Alexander: >... For some reason my e-mails to you have bounced back. ---------------------------- Hmmmmmmmmm. Odd. I wonder when that happened with those e-mails, Kate? I've only heard of one other person who MIGHT have had trouble. Let me know WHEN you tried to send those e-mails that 'bounced back' to you please, willya? ---------------------------- >... Isn't it great, watching your first Search episode in nearly 30 years? As soon as that theme tune starts, it just takes you right back. I'm sure plenty of you can relate to this. ---------------------------- Write and let the list know what you think of the episodes, huh? I'm sure we'd all like to hear your responses! Thanks! Jim probecontrol@sigecom.net From: bob.greenberger@att.net Date: Sun Sep 15, 2002 8:53 pm Subject: Film clips Can't recall which one of you guys runs the site, since I can't access the site today. Hope nothing serious is wrong. Anyway, in cleaning up today, I found all the old Search film clips I bought from Lincoln Enterprises in the 1970s. They are all still in their mini, unmarked manilla envelopes. If anyone is interested in scanning them to add the site's visual library, I'd be more than happy to share them. Just tell me where they should go. > Kate Tann wrote to Jim Alexander: > > >... For some reason my e-mails to you have bounced back. > ---------------------------- > Hmmmmmmmmm. Odd. I wonder when that happened with those e-mails, Kate? > I've only heard of one other person who MIGHT have had trouble. Let me know > WHEN you tried to send those e-mails that 'bounced back' to you please, > willya? > ---------------------------- > >... Isn't it great, watching your first Search episode in nearly 30 years? > As soon as that theme tune starts, it just takes you right back. I'm sure > plenty of you can relate to this. > ---------------------------- > Write and let the list know what you think of the episodes, huh? I'm sure > we'd all like to hear your responses! > > Thanks! > > Jim > probecontrol@sigecom.net From: "dghprobe3" Date: Sun Sep 15, 2002 9:36 pm Subject: Re: Film clips Hi Bob: The probecontrol.com site was down for me last night also. Sometimes I hit "reload" and it loads. Other times, I check back in a couple of hours and it's back. If you want to trust your SEARCH filmclips to me for a short time, I'd be glad to scan them as they are, put them on a CD-R and send them back to you. For doing this, I'd be glad to include a copy of the CD-R so you can also see these glorious scenes full frame on your computer screen. I would also send a copy of the CD-R to Actingman so he can post them to probecontrol.com. It will be interesting to see how different your scenes are. Jim sent me his filmclips sometime last year and while a lot of his shots sort of duplicated what we already have, there were also some really nice shots we hadn't run across previously. So thanks to Jim for sharing those with us. When your full email address arrives in the next "Probe Control DIGEST," I will send you a private email giving my snail mail address. Thanks again for checking with us. --Don H. ========================================== --- In probe_control@y..., bob.greenberger@a... wrote: > Can't recall which one of you guys runs the site, since I can't access the site today. Hope nothing serious is wrong. > > Anyway, in cleaning up today, I found all the old Search film clips I bought from Lincoln Enterprises in the 1970s. They are all still in their mini, unmarked manilla envelopes. If anyone is interested in scanning them to add the site's visual library, I'd be more than happy to share them. Just tell me where they should go.>>> From: "Ken Henke" Date: Sun Sep 15, 2002 10:39 pm Subject: Wow! I loved this show! You guys have really tripped a trigger in my memory with your web site. I stumbled across this site just a couple nights ago. I was 10 years old when this show was on TV. Loved the pilot (Probe) and the series. I even recorded the theme song (on audio cassette). Just took one of those little black cassette recorders and shoved the mike up next to the TV speaker. Captured the teaser and the music. Still have it! Everything about that show was sooo cool. This show was perfect for the times (early 70s). I even remember taking the "computer" style writing shown during the title and writing messages to my friends using that "font". Heh, I also remember being very disappointed when the control room changed from dark to white. Since this show was on late (9pm central time) I had to get special permission from my parents. I remember this show as being awesome, but I have a vague memory that my dad thought it was silly. (He was a big Avengers and Mission Impossible fan. He also liked the Prisoner but that white bubble thing gave me nightmares...) In all the time since this show was on, I never ran across anyone else who even had even heard of it much less remember anything about it. The internet is amazing isn't it? Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Awesome! From: "Skip Brown" Date: Mon Sep 16, 2002 7:13 am Subject: RE: [probe_control] Wow! I loved this show! There are only three things that scared me when I was kid watching TV… One was the “Balok” alien puppet character created in the Star Trek episode “The Corbomite Maneuver”, the “Horta” creatures from “Devil In the Dark”, and the “Rover” bubble from the Prisoner. Scary stuff for a kid, but soooooo laughable now…. Welcome to the list… You are among friends! And yes, the internet is amazing… I thought I was the only SEARCH fan still alive until I got on the net and did a random search…. Skip (P.S. I loved the computer fonts from the show title too… so futuristic looking…) -----Original Message----- From: Ken Henke [mailto:khenke@netins.net] Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 10:39 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] Wow! I loved this show! You guys have really tripped a trigger in my memory with your web site. I stumbled across this site just a couple nights ago. I was 10 years old when this show was on TV. ………I remember this show as being awesome, but I have a vague memory that my dad thought it was silly. (He was a big Avengers and Mission Impossible fan. He also liked the Prisoner but that white bubble thing gave me nightmares...)……. In all the time since this show was on, I never ran across anyone else who even had even heard of it much less remember anything about it. The internet is amazing isn't it? From: "actingman_jc" Date: Mon Sep 16, 2002 4:39 pm Subject: www.probecontrol.com is back on the air We don't know why, but the web host was simply not there over the weekend...but they are back. From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Mon Sep 16, 2002 4:51 pm Subject: contemporary Search appeal Hello everyone Hello Don I'm classed an a lateral thinker with the ability to look in several directions simultaneously. When it comes to writing in contemporary times, it pays to leave in references that people can relate to. We agree about early films or even TV series & see their relevance has diminished. The immediacy effect is lost. It doesn't work quite the same way with futuristic or SF based shows cos the contemporary reference is less or has a much more general feeling to it. Nor with much of comedy. 'I Love Lucy' was largely slapstick whereas 'All In The Family' wasn't. 'Search' has a quasi-effect that way even though it was sent contemporary for the 70s. Look at the disappointed reaction comparing the Leslie Stevens produced ones compared to the ones that weren't. First reaction was the general lack of use of technology. That should speak for itself. It would be interesting to do a straw poll of appeal between cast, stories & technology & see how it fell. Gotta go Geoff ********* GF Willmetts **************************** 'SFCrowsnest.com PageRanked by Google as the 3rd most popular science fiction site on the Internet' Commissioning Editor: http://www.crowsnestbooks.com THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE Quicker website access?? Try: http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com *************************************************** From: dghprobe3@aol.com Date: Thu Sep 19, 2002 12:44 pm Subject: Actor James Gregory has died James Gregory was known to SEARCH fans as Ambassador Essex in the "Operation Iceman" episode. Sci-fi & fantasy fans recall his appearances in "The Twilight Zone," "Star Trek," "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" and others. http://us.imdb.com/Name?Gregory,+James+(I) ------------------------------- From NEWSDAY: Obituary - James Gregory SEDONA, Ariz. (AP) -- Character actor James Gregory, who played Inspector Luger for eight seasons on the TV show "Barney Miller" in the 1970s and '80s, died Monday of an undisclosed illness. He was 90. Gregory also appeared in 25 Broadway shows, including a stint as Biff in "Death of a Salesman." Among the actor's 30 film credits were the Elvis Presley vehicle "Clambake" in 1967 and the 1965 western "Sons of Katie Elder" with John Wayne and Dean Martin. In 1962, Gregory played Sen. John Iselin in the acclaimed "The Manchurian Candidate." http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-deaths0918sep18.story ------------------------------- From the LOS ANGELES TIMES: James Gregory, 90; Veteran Player of Cops and Generals in Movies and Television James Gregory, the solid character actor known for tough-guy cop roles, including Inspector Frank Luger, Hal Linden's superior on television's "Barney Miller," has died. He was 90. (Registration required to view entire article online.) http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-gregory19sep19(0,407217).story?coll=la%2Dnews%2Dobituaries ------------------------------- VARIETY has an obit which was posted on Sept. 18, but you have to be a subscriber to read and I don't subscribe: http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=upsell_article&articleID=VR1117873018&cs=1 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Thu Sep 19, 2002 7:05 pm Subject: RE: [probe_control] Actor James Gregory has died We were wondering why he wasn’t at the TZ con, and really missed seeing him because of his Search connection, and his connection to “The Manchurian Candidate.” This explains it, and I’m sorry never to have met him. He was always a fun actor. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@bestcare.org, Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley -----Original Message----- From: dghprobe3@aol.com [mailto:dghprobe3@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:45 AM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] Actor James Gregory has died James Gregory was known to SEARCH fans as Ambassador Essex in the "Operation Iceman" episode. Sci-fi & fantasy fans recall his appearances in "The Twilight Zone," "Star Trek," "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" and others. http://us.imdb.com/Name?Gregory,+James+(I) ------------------------------- From NEWSDAY: Obituary - James Gregory SEDONA, Ariz. (AP) -- Character actor James Gregory, who played Inspector Luger for eight seasons on the TV show "Barney Miller" in the 1970s and '80s, died Monday of an undisclosed illness. He was 90. Gregory also appeared in 25 Broadway shows, including a stint as Biff in "Death of a Salesman." Among the actor's 30 film credits were the Elvis Presley vehicle "Clambake" in 1967 and the 1965 western "Sons of Katie Elder" with John Wayne and Dean Martin. In 1962, Gregory played Sen. John Iselin in the acclaimed "The Manchurian Candidate." http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-deaths0918sep18.story ------------------------------- From the LOS ANGELES TIMES: James Gregory, 90; Veteran Player of Cops and Generals in Movies and Television James Gregory, the solid character actor known for tough-guy cop roles, including Inspector Frank Luger, Hal Linden's superior on television's "Barney Miller," has died. He was 90. (Registration required to view entire article online.) http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-gregory19sep19(0,407217).story?coll=la%2Dnews%2Dobituaries ------------------------------- VARIETY has an obit which was posted on Sept. 18, but you have to be a subscriber to read and I don't subscribe: http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=upsell_article&articleID=VR1117873018&cs=1 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Fri Sep 20, 2002 8:00 pm Subject: Search stars at the TZ Con Here is the link to the page I've put up about our trek to California for the TZ con, if anyone is interested. Anne Francis' signed photo is on the autograph wall, to the right in the picture. http://www.steveandmarta.com/graveyards/tzcon.htm Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites as well as "Memories of the Indian Hills Theatre in Omaha, Nebraska" The last round Super-Cinerama theatre in the world Demolished August 20, 2001 for absolutely no reason by Methodist Health Systems Sign the Petition to protest the demolition of the Indian Hills Online! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/steve/petition.html Call Stephen Long, CEO of Methodist, at 402-354-4000 and tell him the theatre should have been reopened as a working film venue. Email comments@bestcare.org, Methodist's website, and tell them the theatre should have been saved, and pass the email address and phone number on to everyone you know! And --- Join the Indian Hills and Cinerama and Widescreen Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/cinerama_widescreen_movies Lord Byron, Mary Shelley and Percy Bysshe Shelley Discussion Group http://www.egroups.com/group/mary_percy_shelley From: Mark Hall Date: Sat Sep 21, 2002 4:47 pm Subject: Hi Guys first time emailer! Hi there everyone....Ive been a member of your club for some time and up to now, Ive merely been content to watch the stuff roll in from other members, so its about time Id said Hi to you all and just tell you my earliest recollections of Search. I live in England...and when we saw it on BBC Television, it was of course called Search Control. At the time I thought it was an amazing program! Even the music was good! I was only 10 at the time and my friends at school used to like it as well and we would talk and play games based on it. I particularly liked the episodes with Hugh O'Brien, just an amazing guy all round. And then after the BBC aired the shows it all stopped, and to my knowledge its never been seen since. As time rolled on into years, and conversations came round about great TV shows, I would ask if anyone had seen Search Control? Search Me! was the usual response or just blank faces. It was like the whole program had been airbrushed out of the public consciousness. Until sometime ago...I thought "Hmmmm.....I wonder if there is anything on the web about it?" Entries of "Search" came up blank or too numerous to wade through. But after much digging around, there it was ...and it was great to find your website as well. I love watching the emails and reading what everyone thinks or has discovered about the show. I think one of the problems it has is the number of different names Probe was scheduled under. Search or Search Control, and I managed to find the probe web site by checking back Burgess Merediths filmography. I think the program has been seriously overlooked and if people like ourselves keep plugging the message of how great it was, then maybe the networks either here in England, America or elsewhere will take it up again and do a few reruns. Thats it for now guys! Mark. P.S By the way next time the emails will be a whole lot shorter! :-) From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sat Sep 21, 2002 6:48 pm Subject: Welcome, Mark Hall! Welcome, Mark! Don't worry about the length of your e-mails! <> We love the recollections of people who love and remember 'our' show! Especially those from overseas! Love Live Search (Control)!!! Jim Alexander probecontrol@sigecom.net --------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hall" To: "Probe 1972" Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 3:47 PM Subject: [probe_control] Hi Guys first time emailer! > Hi there everyone....Ive been a member of your club > for some time and up to now, Ive merely been content > to watch the stuff roll in from other members, so its > about time Id said Hi to you all and just tell you my > earliest recollections of Search. > I live in England...and when we saw it on BBC > Television, it was of course called Search Control. > At the time I thought it was an amazing program! Even > the music was good! I was only 10 at the time and my > friends at school used to like it as well and we would > talk and play games based on it. > I particularly liked the episodes with Hugh O'Brien, > just an amazing guy all round. > And then after the BBC aired the shows it all stopped, > and to my knowledge its never been seen since. As time > rolled on into years, and conversations came round > about great TV shows, I would ask if anyone had seen > Search Control? Search Me! was the usual response or > just blank faces. It was like the whole program had > been airbrushed out of the public consciousness. > Until sometime ago...I thought "Hmmmm.....I wonder if > there is anything on the web about it?" Entries of > "Search" came up blank or too numerous to wade > through. But after much digging around, there it was > ...and it was great to find your website as well. I > love watching the emails and reading what everyone > thinks or has discovered about the show. > I think one of the problems it has is the number of > different names Probe was scheduled under. Search or > Search Control, and I managed to find the probe web > site by checking back Burgess Merediths filmography. > I think the program has been seriously overlooked and > if people like ourselves keep plugging the message of > how great it was, then maybe the networks either here > in England, America or elsewhere will take it up again > and do a few reruns. Thats it for now guys! > Mark. > P.S By the way next time the emails will be a whole > lot shorter! :-) From: "Kate" Date: Sat Sep 21, 2002 7:16 pm Subject: Re: Search vhs received --- In probe_control@y..., "Jim Alexander" wrote: > Kate Tann wrote to Jim Alexander: > > >... For some reason my e-mails to you have bounced back. > ---------------------------- > Hmmmmmmmmm. Odd. I wonder when that happened with those e-mails, Kate? > I've only heard of one other person who MIGHT have had trouble. Let me know > WHEN you tried to send those e-mails that 'bounced back' to you please, > willya? > ---------------------------- > >... Isn't it great, watching your first Search episode in nearly 30 years? > As soon as that theme tune starts, it just takes you right back. I'm sure > plenty of you can relate to this. > ---------------------------- > Write and let the list know what you think of the episodes, huh? I'm sure > we'd all like to hear your responses! > > Thanks! > > Jim > probecontrol@s... I've just tried another e-mail - looks as though this one might have got through. In case it didn't... my earlier e-mail attempts to you were on the 8th (twice) and the 15th. So far I've still only watched Operation Iceman. I don't actually remember it, though I know I didn't miss many first time round. In those days I'd cancel everything (and so did my long-suffering family have to!) when Search was on. I'm waiting for some peace and quiet to watch the next one now. I can see why some people have said it was ahead of its time - that's more apparent now than it was to me then. Although you do have to work hard to look beyond the dreadful 70s fashions and hairstyles to see it! Kate From: "Kate" Date: Sat Sep 21, 2002 7:21 pm Subject: Re: Hi Guys first time emailer! --- In probe_control@y..., Mark Hall wrote: > Hi there everyone....Ive been a member of your club > for some time and up to now, Ive merely been content > to watch the stuff roll in from other members, so its > about time Id said Hi to you all and just tell you my > earliest recollections of Search. > I live in England...and when we saw it on BBC > Television, it was of course called Search Control. > At the time I thought it was an amazing program! Even > the music was good! I was only 10 at the time and my > friends at school used to like it as well and we would > talk and play games based on it. > I particularly liked the episodes with Hugh O'Brien, > just an amazing guy all round. > And then after the BBC aired the shows it all stopped, > and to my knowledge its never been seen since. As time > rolled on into years, and conversations came round > about great TV shows, I would ask if anyone had seen > Search Control? Search Me! was the usual response or > just blank faces. It was like the whole program had > been airbrushed out of the public consciousness. > Until sometime ago...I thought "Hmmmm.....I wonder if > there is anything on the web about it?" Entries of > "Search" came up blank or too numerous to wade > through. But after much digging around, there it was > ...and it was great to find your website as well. I > love watching the emails and reading what everyone > thinks or has discovered about the show. > I think one of the problems it has is the number of > different names Probe was scheduled under. Search or > Search Control, and I managed to find the probe web > site by checking back Burgess Merediths filmography. > I think the program has been seriously overlooked and > if people like ourselves keep plugging the message of > how great it was, then maybe the networks either here > in England, America or elsewhere will take it up again > and do a few reruns. Thats it for now guys! > Mark. > P.S By the way next time the emails will be a whole > lot shorter! :-) > Oh good - someone else who remembers it as "Search Control"!! :-) Kate From: yorktowncmdr@aol.com Date: Sat Sep 21, 2002 11:32 pm Subject: Re: [probe_control] Hi Guys first time emailer! Hello Mark, It's good to hear from you, and any comments are welcome. You are not being verbose. It has been too long since I've seen an episode of SEARCH, but I still have fond memories of it. One quality of it has been its music as composed by Dominic Frontiere. He and series creator Leslie Stevens have been long-time collaborators. Frontiere has composed the music for the TV science-fiction classic "The Outer Limits". Among his other works include the "Washington: Behind Closed Doors", a miniseries; "Modern Problems", a movie starring Chevy Chase; "The Invaders" and "The Immortal", TV series. I should think that the music for SEARCH has been Frontiere's most original work since "The Outer Limits". Once again it's good to hear your thoughts. David From: dghprobe3@aol.com Date: Mon Sep 23, 2002 9:15 pm Subject: Elke Sommer--German magazine article The German magazine "Neue Post" of 4 September 2002 has a small article and photo of Elke Sommer (Ullie in the "Probe" pilot movie). A scan is posted to our Files section: 020904_Elke.jpg Plus a translation of the article: 020904_Elke-translated.txt If the links don't work, go to our Files section, look for the folder "Other SEARCH Guest Stars" and the Elke Sommer files will be there. Also on the Internet Movie Database: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Sommer,+Elke From: dghprobe3@aol.com Date: Wed Sep 25, 2002 2:28 pm Subject: 'Ends of the Earth' & Lin Biao http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/Miscellaneous%20SEARCH/830516_LinBiao.jpg Above links to a 1983 article in our "Files" section (in the Miscellaneous SEARCH folder) about the mysterious disappearance of China's Defense Minister Lin Biao in Sept. 1971. This real-life event was mentioned in the SEARCH episode "Ends of the Earth" as follows, from the script John posted (although they spell the name 'Lin Piao'): http://probecontrol.com/Scripts/Ends.txt TOBLER: ...Perhaps you will recall Lin Piao, the Chinese minister, whose plane crashed in Western China while trying to escape from the country. BIANCO: Sure, I read about that -- TOBLER: I can assure you Lin Piao's body was not one of those found in the wreckage. BIANCO: Are you telling me that Ends of the Earth -- TOBLER: I will say no more... From: yorktowncmdr@aol.com Date: Sun Sep 29, 2002 10:38 am Subject: Re: [probe_control] 'Ends of the Earth' & Lin Biao In a message dated 9/25/02 2:30:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dghprobe3@aol.com writes: Above links to a 1983 article in our "Files" section (in the Miscellaneous SEARCH folder) about the mysterious disappearance of China's Defense Minister Lin Biao in Sept. 1971. This real-life event was mentioned in the SEARCH episode "Ends of the Earth" as follows, from the script John posted (although they spell the name 'Lin Piao'): Lin Piao was the correct spelling during the period even though rapprochement transpired in February 1972 when President Richard Nixon made his historic visit to the PRC. After normalization occurred in 1978 we accepted the revised system. For example Mao Tse-tung, Chou En-Lai and Deng Chiao-Ping became Mao Zedong, Zhou Enlai and Deng Xiaoping respectively. Given the period the script was not in error. TOBLER: ...Perhaps you will recall Lin Piao, the Chinese minister, whose plane crashed in Western China while trying to escape from the country. BIANCO: Sure, I read about that -- TOBLER: I can assure you Lin Piao's body was not one of those found in the wreckage. BIANCO: Are you telling me that Ends of the Earth -- TOBLER: I will say no more... It was plain that Lin Piao was running a coup in an attempt to depose Mao and Chou (I'm using the pre-rapproachment version). The actual fact was once Mao and Chou learned of Lin's coup attempt most probably Mao saw to it that Lin's car was loaded with explosives. Lin Piao was killed in the resulting explosion. Mao consequently contrived the defection to the USSR so as to make Lin Piao a bigger traitor to the State than he actually was. From: dghprobe3@aol.com Date: Mon Sep 30, 2002 9:18 pm Subject: Grover's Orange Jeep http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/SEARCH%20Articles%20by%20Don%20Harden/GroverJeep.htm Search: C. R. Grover's Orange Jeep Found among the "Search" filmclips from Lincoln Enterprises are scenes of Grover (Doug McClure) driving with a girl in an orange jeep-like truck. I'm not sure of the episode for which these scenes were intended. This is either a test footage situation or it was filmed perhaps for "Short Circuit" or "In Search of Midas" and ended up on the cutting room floor. The long shadows denote either early morning or late afternoon filming. There seems to be some type of design on the hood of the truck, but it is difficult to see. If anyone else has additional filmclips of this or other scenes from "Search," please let us know. If the links do not work, go to the Files section, open the folder "SEARCH Articles by Don Harden" and click on the "GroverJeep.htm" file. Allow a few seconds for all of the pictures to download. Thanks. From: dghprobe3@aol.com Date: Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:09 pm Subject: Oldtvseries.com links to us now http://www.oldtvseries.com/ A startpage for old TV series which I found a day or so ago. They did not have "Search" or probecontrol.com listed, so I told them about us. Today I checked and they were nice enough to add a link to us. :-) The link for "Search" is inside the first box for "Action" shows, about halfway down that box on the left side of the page. Folks can email them through a link near the bottom of the page to suggest sites for other TV shows, or use this link: http://www.oldtvseries.com/suggestasite.htm From: "dghprobe3" Date: Mon Sep 30, 2002 11:22 pm Subject: Re: Search stars at the TZ Con --- In probe_control@y..., "Marta Dawes" wrote: > Here is the link to the page I've put up about our trek to California for the TZ con, if anyone is interested... > > http://www.steveandmarta.com/graveyards/tzcon.htm Marta: Excellent job on the TZ con article and photos. Everyone on the SEARCH list should take a look. It's like catching up with old friends at a reunion. (It will take a minute or so for all the pictures to load, but it's well worth it.) Please let us know whenever you post another such article. :-)