2087 From: dghprobe3@... Date: Thu May 1, 2003 11:09am Subject: Link problem in Files section? dghprobe3 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MJmsPtF3nB-kmuyeirMVeIcu0_Iy6Q9ig1ipt9v5rGqQnGH5S lW9QBhGacK6FD_wSrEzb0wHVN_LhH7Tp1J75yj7BbU/SEARCH%20Articles%20by%20Don%20Hard en/Webb01.htm Webb01.htm Hello everyone: A few days ago, I posted an article about Bill Webb's SEARCH filmclips to the Files section. When I first posted the article, the pics would not open with the article. I had to tweak things a bit by taking the individual links of each individual pic as Yahoo gives them now and edit them into the html of the article. When I first started posting articles with pics to the Files section, you could make your links simply to the folder and to the pic you wanted in that folder. Yahoo has evidently made changes to this. Nowadays, each pic has it's own lengthy link if you want to connect it to an article. All the older articles have been affected. Pics no longer open with the old links I gave. I've corrected a few of the articles, but there are still several left to fix. Anyway, Actingman reports that he cannot get pics to show up with the Bill Webb article. Has anyone else had the same trouble? (We speculate that some browsers are truncating these links.) Thanks to all who reply. If you can get the pics to show, please report that as well. It might help us figure out a fix. If the above links do not work, try highlighting this link, then right click "Copy", then "Paste" into your browser window (it and the other two links work for me): http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MJmsPtF3nB-kmuyeirMVeIcu0_Iy6Q9ig1ipt9v5rGqQnGH5S lW9QBhGacK6FD_wSrEzb0wHVN_LhH7Tp1J75yj7BbU/SEARCH%20Articles%20by%20Don%20Hard en/Webb01.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 2088 From: "Martin Parrott" Date: Thu May 1, 2003 3:29pm Subject: Re: Link problem in Files section? parrottm76262 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Don, I can't get any of the links in your email to work. I have to manually go to the yahoo area for our group and click through the links in order to get to the Webb01.htm link. The link I end up with is different than yours. Once I bring the page up, none of the pictures show either. All I see are red x's. Here is the link yahoo gives me for the page: http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cDaxPjMBRAvFmIhNiAf0KNqB3Om2dGY7uQQHWmtzBpJbKe6 vMW-OjQj3UZEClrVbHXru4ArbAqejZg9vvRdoL07eeKU/SEARCH%20Articles%20by%20Don%20 Harden/Webb01.htm Thanks for all your hard work, Martin Parrott ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 10:09 AM Subject: [probe_control] Link problem in Files section? > http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MJmsPtF3nB-kmuyeirMVeI cu0_Iy6Q9ig1ipt9v5rGqQnGH5S > > lW9QBhGacK6FD_wSrEzb0wHVN_LhH7Tp1J75yj7BbU/SEARCH%20Articles%20by%20Don%20Ha rd > > en/Webb01.htm > > Webb01.htm > > Hello everyone: A few days ago, I posted an article about Bill Webb's SEARCH > filmclips to the Files section. When I first posted the article, the pics > would not open with the article. I had to tweak things a bit by taking the > individual links of each individual pic as Yahoo gives them now and edit them > into the html of the article. > > When I first started posting articles with pics to the Files section, you > could make your links simply to the folder and to the pic you wanted in that > folder. Yahoo has evidently made changes to this. Nowadays, each pic has > it's own lengthy link if you want to connect it to an article. > > All the older articles have been affected. Pics no longer open with the old > links I gave. I've corrected a few of the articles, but there are still > several left to fix. > > Anyway, Actingman reports that he cannot get pics to show up with the Bill > Webb article. Has anyone else had the same trouble? (We speculate that some > browsers are truncating these links.) Thanks to all who reply. If you can > get the pics to show, please report that as well. It might help us figure > out a fix. > > If the above links do not work, try highlighting this link, then right click > "Copy", then "Paste" into your browser window (it and the other two links > work for me): > > http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MJmsPtF3nB-kmuyeirMVeIcu0_Iy6Q9ig1ipt9v5rGqQnGH 5S > > lW9QBhGacK6FD_wSrEzb0wHVN_LhH7Tp1J75yj7BbU/SEARCH%20Articles%20by%20Don%20Ha rd > > en/Webb01.htm > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > 2089 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Thu May 1, 2003 5:44pm Subject: Re: Link problem in Files section? dghprobe3 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hi Martin: Yahoo automatically truncates long internet addresses when our messages are posted in the actual online Yahoo group. However, I've noticed that they are intact in the "Digest" and "Individual Email" versions sent to list members. John suggested the possibility that the page may be reaching back into my C: drive for the pictures, which could be why it's working for me. But he added that he hasn't seen anything obvious in the html on that score. Let me keep trying things. If I find a fix, I'll announce it. It'll be a shame if we can no longer post articles with photos because they can be helpful in explaining things, showing comparisons, etc. --Don H. --- In probe_control, "Martin Parrott" wrote: > I can't get any of the links in your email to work... 2090 From: dghprobe3@... Date: Thu May 1, 2003 2:33pm Subject: 2nd try with Filmclip Scan Article dghprobe3 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/oGCxPoqr_vHgUXjYmmdYnTqZ0t-UapWzU7NCVvLet4D_rspKQ cNLWskVoRSjUSSeOIaMzgNsIGbkfasQT_XKzSLIvdM/SEARCH%20Articles%20by%20Don%20Hard en/Webb01c.htm Webb01c.htm Hi folks: I tried something different to get the pictures to show up in the Bill Webb Filmclips article. This time, if the page opens and no pictures appear, I created a link which will also take you to the individual photo. Just click on the blank square of the photo you want to see and you should be able to see that particular photo. At least you can see what is being discussed. Then again, if everyone can see the all the photos, we have our fix. :-) --Don H. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 2091 From: "Martin Parrott" Date: Thu May 1, 2003 6:46pm Subject: Re: 2nd try with Filmclip Scan Article parrottm76262 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email It worked for me! Martin Parrott ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: [probe_control] 2nd try with Filmclip Scan Article > http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/oGCxPoqr_vHgUXjYmmdYnTqZ0t-UapWzU7NCVvLet4D_rsp KQ > > cNLWskVoRSjUSSeOIaMzgNsIGbkfasQT_XKzSLIvdM/SEARCH%20Articles%20by%20Don%20Ha rd > > en/Webb01c.htm > > Webb01c.htm > > Hi folks: I tried something different to get the pictures to show up in the > Bill Webb Filmclips article. > > This time, if the page opens and no pictures appear, I created a link which > will also take you to the individual photo. Just click on the blank square > of the photo you want to see and you should be able to see that particular > photo. At least you can see what is being discussed. > > Then again, if everyone can see the all the photos, we have our fix. :-) > > --Don H. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > 2092 From: "actingman_jc" Date: Thu May 1, 2003 9:20pm Subject: They are not working for me... actingman_jc Offline Offline Send Email Send Email ...and I am on a different machine this time. I am sure it is something Yahoo is doing...they can't leave anything working properly if they can possibly help it. I think for these comparison articles we should open space on a free site. I recomend www.fateback.com . They give you like 60mb of space and even unlimited email addresses, and pop3 access so you can download them using a regular email program. You can't go above a certain size for files, and they won't let you post any audio or video clips...but otherwise it is a good alternative. This is a free plug by the way...I use it as does a friend of mine...and they have been excellent. 2093 From: dghprobe3@... Date: Sun May 4, 2003 8:25pm Subject: Operation Iceman clip scans posted dghprobe3 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/opice.html Hi folks: Thanks to Actingman, newly-scanned SEARCH filmclips from "Operation Iceman" are available to be viewed at the link above. These are from the collection of my brother Tom and myself. There are only 120 images now, but I expect to add as many more after I finish scanning Bill Webb's collection. There are a couple of "created" images among these Iceman clips. Can anyone spot them? :-) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 2094 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Mon May 5, 2003 0:50am Subject: Operation Iceman clip scans posted probecontrol Offline Offline Send Email Send Email >... There are a couple of "created" images among these Iceman clips. Can anyone spot them? :-) ------------------------ 'Created,' Don? The plane crash is stock footage. Not sure what you mean... Nice job on scanning the filmclips! These look to be less 'red' than the previous batches! Jim Alexander probecontrol@... 2095 From: "actingman_jc" Date: Mon May 5, 2003 2:53am Subject: Re: Operation Iceman clip scans posted actingman_jc Offline Offline Send Email Send Email I would guess the first two clips that are the tranisitional "squares" (although they are not really squares)that go across the screen. Seeing those two shots make me think somebody (hint hint) could use just those two clips, making up additional frames by cutting and pasting, to make an animated gif of a black shot, and then the "squares" fill the screen, and then go off leaving the black. Since I have never made an animated gif, I am throwing out the idea here. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, dghprobe3@a... wrote: > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/opice.html > There are a couple of "created" images among these Iceman clips. Can anyone > spot them? :-) 2096 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Mon May 5, 2003 3:02am Subject: Re: Operation Iceman clip scans posted dghprobe3 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email --- In probe_control, "Jim Alexander" wrote: > >... There are a couple of "created" images among these Iceman clips. Can anyone spot them? :-) > ------------------------ > 'Created,' Don? The plane crash is stock footage. Not sure what you mean... > > Nice job on scanning the filmclips! These look to be less 'red' than the previous batches! -------------------------- Hi Jim: You were close with one of the shots I created. One of the early Probe viewscreen shots in the Iceman collection is a scene I made, taking a blank viewscreen shot and placing a rear view shot of a wrecked plane in it. That particular angle of the Probe screen is an unusual one and I didn't want it to go to waste. While not perfect, I did diminish the red/pink somewhat in the scans. You might also note that some scenes have a different color tone here and there. That is not me, some of the film was apparently duped or shot with different stocks, such as the scenes of the Locarno sniper running to his car, or the shots of Bianco at Locarno's gate. In all the scanning I've done so far, I've noticed that the color fading is going on at different rates. Some of the regular Eastman stock has gone quite red/pink by now, while other clips still have some color left. Also, some of the film stock used in "Flight to Nowhere," "Let Us Prey," and "Honeymoon" were apparently of a lowfade variety, meaning it holds its color well. You can tell especially when comparing Probe Control scenes. In the lowfade stocks, the background black areas of Probe are solid black, while in "The Gold Machine" and "Moonrock" clips, the background black areas are notably reddish. --Don H. 2097 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Mon May 5, 2003 3:11am Subject: Re: Operation Iceman clip scans posted dghprobe3 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email --- In probe_control, "actingman_jc" wrote: > I would guess the first two clips that are the > tranisitional "squares" (although they are not really squares)that > go across the screen. > > ...make an animated gif of a black shot, and then > the "squares" fill the screen, and then go off leaving the black... Hi John: The clips of those transitional squares are a legitimate scan of real clips. My brother came up with those in the last couple of boxes he brought here a while back. However, I did do some tweaking. The actual original clips are in black & white. I used Corel's "Replace Color" command and turned the dull gray into sparkling blue. An animated gif could probably be made, however, I only have those two frames as scans. A better approach would be to take one of the cleaner video openings, such as the 16mm "Let Us Prey" and do a frame- by-frame animated gif of that. Then, as the squares fill the screen, flop all the images and reverse the order so as to make it look like the screen goes to black again. By the way, if you look closely at the SEARCH logo near the start of the Iceman clips, you will see that I did some color correction (the blue had faded somewhat) and also made the logo appear somewhat larger than previously. --Don H. 2098 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Tue May 6, 2003 10:21pm Subject: chic pattern gfwillmetts Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hello everyone Re: Using the square transfer before the pictures or even switching to a different window. I did ask my boss about that last year & he seems to think that there's probably some code on the Net that would serve the purpose. I don't think you really want an animation GIF doing a moving picture. What you're probably after is a couple frames that act as a transparency over the next picture & then let the come into view as the squares fade out. 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I have already created a Universal Translator, type one and type two phaser from the orginal Star Trek series. The next things I plan to build are the Space 1999 Commlock and Laser, then finally a Search Scanner. I have all the dimensions I need except for the scanner. I have been told the external OD is 7/8", but I can't find any info on the remaining dimensions, i.e. thickness, diameter of the lens, etc. Any info you could provide would be helpful. Also, from the videos I have, it appears the lens is blue and the circuit board etching is blue as well. The picture on the Probe Control web site appears to have greeen features. Which one is correct? Finally, if my efforts are successful and I come up with a method to create these without a lot of effort, would you be interested in a 'recreation' of the prop? I am unsure if I would be able to furnish the ring, chain, etc., but I am going to try to do this for my copy, so give me some feedback on these accessories as well. Just FYI, if things work out, I don't plan to try to get rich off this. Just enought to cover materials, shipping and a bit of my time. If you have any info related to this you think would help me or others, please share it. Thanks for your time, Martin Parrott 2100 From: "standbyprobe" Date: Sat May 10, 2003 4:13pm Subject: Geology and the Gold Machine standbyprobe Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Just thought I'd share some things after reading Leslie Steven's "The Gold = Machine" script posted to the search site. First off, I loved the story, es= pecially the subplot where Lockwood loses his hearing due to an explosion -- superb = and very human! Admittedly, I'm no geology major and I had to go back and check a few thing= s before I decided to shoot my mouth off -- but having done that here goes: At first I kind of balked at the thought that anyone would mine for gold in= California's Diablo Range (A coastal range running the length of The Great = Valley to the west) as the geology is all wrong for it (I grew up near ther= e). Having said that I suppose back in the Gold Rush of '49-'52 anxious greenhorn miners right off the boat with no clue MIGHT try looking for gold= almost anywhere (often without success) so an attempted mine in the coastal= mountains wouldn't have been out of the question -- even though all their bretheren were heading east to the Sierras. It would have been surprising had they found anything of worth for their efforts. The rocks are mostly basaltic. Going further north there was always the Trinity Alps up near Mount Shasta. Lot of prospecting done there. The mines that are left certaintly attest to that. The uranium discovery, however, turned out to be a nice angle -- I liked th= at twist -- even though I know of no uranium ever being found in the Diablo vicinity either. But I liked it nonetheless. After the end credits I could= just see the nearby-located Lawrence-Livermore Labs or the government pouncing on that motherload of radioactive ore in two shakes :-) Heavens, I could see= the San Francisco bay area evacuating itself in a panic if the news ever got ou= t. It was a very good story. Any thoughts on this? Anyone a geologist who can correct me? Keep in mind I'm also the guy that loved Leslie Steven's 'Production and Decay of Strange Particles" for the Stefano Outer Limits series even though the episode didn't really make a lick of sense -- but, wow! What an eerie feeling it gave me to see those radiation suits lumbering around the "haunted house" Broadridge reactor building. When I was a kid it= scared the living daylights out of me :-) StandByProbe 2101 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sun May 11, 2003 5:51pm Subject: One of Our Probes... martadawes Offline Offline Send Email Send Email We've finally gotten around to watching the episodes; it's been hectic around here. I notice on "One of Our Probes is Missing," the beginning music is arranged a little differently. Does this continue over the rest of the episodes? Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" (Read about the TZ Con!) websites 2102 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sun May 11, 2003 6:06pm Subject: 'One of Our Probes' Theme probecontrol Offline Offline Send Email Send Email >... We've finally gotten around to watching the episodes; it's been hectic around here. I notice on "One of Our Probes is Missing," the beginning music is arranged a little differently. Does this continue over the rest of the episodes? --------------------------------- Nope, Marta. I noticed that, too. If memory serves... it's the only one. Odd, huh? Jim probecontrol@... 2103 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sun May 11, 2003 8:17pm Subject: RE: 'One of Our Probes' Theme martadawes Offline Offline Send Email Send Email It is a little strange, that they alter one opening and not others. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" (Read about the TZ Con!) websites -----Original Message----- From: Jim Alexander [mailto:probecontrol@...] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 1:07 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] 'One of Our Probes' Theme >... We've finally gotten around to watching the episodes; it's been hectic around here. I notice on "One of Our Probes is Missing," the beginning music is arranged a little differently. Does this continue over the rest of the episodes? --------------------------------- Nope, Marta. I noticed that, too. If memory serves... it's the only one. Odd, huh? Jim probecontrol@... 2104 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sun May 11, 2003 8:49pm Subject: Emmett Bergholtz martadawes Offline Offline Send Email Send Email I've just noticed that Emmett Bergholtz was director of photography on "One of Our Probes is Missing." We've got tons of pictures of him on our Combat! pages, all behind the scenes stuff, since he was director of photography for several years on that show. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" (Read about the TZ Con!) websites 2105 From: "galacticprobe" Date: Sun May 11, 2003 8:56pm Subject: Re: Making scanner galacticprobe Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Greetings, According to the script for the pilot "Probe" the scanner is "about a third of an inch thick". If the scanner OD is 7/8", it would be easy to extrapolate the OD of the lens based on its proportions in relation to the overall scanner. As for the colour...??? In some scenes the scanner 'circuit board' looks green, in others it looks pale blue (as in the images posted on the web site). It might depend on who made the scanner used for that particular shot (distance glancing shot, or up close & personal beauty shot). As an electronics tech I can assure you that circuit boards come in varying shades of green as well as varying shades of blue. (Personally, I go for the pale blue beauty shot version.) The lens looks blue in every scene I've seen it. However, in the pilot, when Lockwood goes digging through the knapkin bin after the waiter collects the scanner by mistake while clearing the tables, once Lockwood finds the scanner he says to it, "There you are, you green-eyed monster." Could the colour variations be simply be a result of the film & cameras used to make the episodes? End Run, Dino --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "parrottm76262" wrote: > I have all the dimensions I need except for the scanner. I have > been told the external OD is 7/8", but I can't find any info on the > remaining dimensions, i.e. thickness, diameter of the lens, etc. > > Any info you could provide would be helpful. > > Also, from the videos I have, it appears the lens is blue and the > circuit board etching is blue as well. The picture on the Probe > Control web site appears to have greeen features. Which one is > correct? > 2106 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sun May 11, 2003 9:04pm Subject: Emmett Bergholtz probecontrol Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Cool, Marta! Finding some interesting goodies, aren't you? Jim Alexander probecontrol@... --------------------------------------------------------- > I've just noticed that Emmett Bergholtz was director of photography on > "One of Our Probes is Missing." We've got tons of pictures of him on > our Combat! pages, all behind the scenes stuff, since he was director of > photography for several years on that show. > > Marta 2107 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sun May 11, 2003 9:32pm Subject: RE: Emmett Bergholtz martadawes Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Yes I am. I notice that Mary Ann Mobley is listed as Marianne Mobley in the credits for "Short Circuit." I've never seen her listed like that before. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" (Read about the TZ Con!) websites -----Original Message----- From: Jim Alexander [mailto:probecontrol@...] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 4:05 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] Emmett Bergholtz Cool, Marta! Finding some interesting goodies, aren't you? Jim Alexander probecontrol@... --------------------------------------------------------- > I've just noticed that Emmett Bergholtz was director of photography on > "One of Our Probes is Missing." We've got tons of pictures of him on > our Combat! pages, all behind the scenes stuff, since he was director of > photography for several years on that show. > > Marta Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 2108 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Mon May 12, 2003 1:27am Subject: Re: 'One of Our Probes' Theme dghprobe3 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Marta Dawes" wrote: > It is a little strange, that they alter one opening and not others. Hi Marta: We discussed this earlier in the list back when Geoff sent his version of "One of Our Probes" which also had the different music, which was a reworking of the first half of Dominic Frontiere's theme for the PROBE pilot. It apparently aired this way when it first ran on NBC in Sept. 1972, however, that episode changed to the other regular music they used when NBC repeated "One of Our Probes" on Dec. 27, 1972. It's that way on the audio tape a friend made for me back then. Evidently they had both pieces of music and were unsure at first what to do with them. They may have played both versions to test audiences and went with the one that was used in the rest of the series. If you listen closely to the opening credits SEARCH theme in "Murrow Disappearance" and "Short Circuit," it sounds richer and more echo-y than later episodes. And there seem to have been at least three different versions of closing credits music, one of which is dominated by slightly off-key horns. This sort of thing also happened with the first eight classic Star Trek episodes. They switched back and forth between two sets of opening credits music, as if they weren't sure which one to go with. The first theme was the shrill echo-y horns heard in "Where No Man," and the second theme was the deeper violin version. They eventually settled on the violin theme for the rest of the first season. (This is more apparent with the restored DVD version of classic Trek.) --Don H. 2110 From: "editlist2003" Date: Mon May 12, 2003 2:56am Subject: Re: Making scanner editlist2003 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hi gang, I thought I was the only human being who remembered SEARCH!!! I even did a college film project based on the show. Anyway, I'm glad to be aboard. I've contacted several machine shops in an effort to create an accurate scanner. I'll keep you all posted as this project takes shape. Talk to you all soon. Agent Frank T. 2111 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Mon May 12, 2003 3:36am Subject: The SEARCH for Knowledge probecontrol Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Agent Frank T: And I thought I was the only person who did a college project based on SEARCH!!! ;) I wrote a SEARCH-type script (which ended up getting an 'A+' from my Film Professor). Guess it was the 'Labor of Love' thing. ;) Jim Alexander probecontrol@... ------------------------------------ > Hi gang, > > I thought I was the only human being who remembered SEARCH!!! I even > did a college film project based on the show. > Anyway, I'm glad to be aboard. > I've contacted several machine shops in an effort to create an > accurate scanner. I'll keep you all posted as this project takes > shape. > > Talk to you all soon. > > Agent Frank T. 2112 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Mon May 12, 2003 4:37am Subject: Re: The SEARCH for Knowledge dghprobe3 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email --- In probe_control, "Jim Alexander" wrote: > I thought I was the only person who did a college project based on > SEARCH... Actually back in '75, I did a high school literature project based on SEARCH. I presented my "Moonrock" film clips mounted as slides along with matching clips from my audiotape of the episode as an example of archetype literature appearing in TV shows and other media. I remember drawing parallels between "Moonrock" and the mythical story of Jason's search for the golden fleece. I got an "A" and a rave review from the teacher. At the same time, the teacher pointed out that my presentation was also on the "clever side," but perfectly acceptable. Every time we think we are all alone, we find that we are all together separately. Either that, or we loved SEARCH so much we didn't care HOW we promoted it. :-) --Don H. 2113 From: "editlist2003" Date: Mon May 12, 2003 7:53pm Subject: Re: The SEARCH for Knowledge editlist2003 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email I got the only A+ in the whole class! It was titled "The Hunted" and I created Agent Jonathan Brent. I've been in television now for 18 years as an editor, and I swear some of the better edit rooms I've worked in could double for PROBE control. See how it all ties in somehow . . .life is funny that way sometimes. Stay well. Agent Frank T. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Alexander" wrote: > Agent Frank T: > > And I thought I was the only person who did a college project based on > SEARCH!!! ;) > > I wrote a SEARCH-type script (which ended up getting an 'A+' from my Film > Professor). Guess it was the 'Labor of Love' thing. ;) > > Jim Alexander > probecontrol@s... > > ------------------------------------ > > > Hi gang, > > > > I thought I was the only human being who remembered SEARCH!!! I even > > did a college film project based on the show. > > Anyway, I'm glad to be aboard. > > I've contacted several machine shops in an effort to create an > > accurate scanner. I'll keep you all posted as this project takes > > shape. > > > > Talk to you all soon. > > > > Agent F 2114 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Mon May 12, 2003 10:39pm Subject: Re: Scanner manufacture gfwillmetts Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hello Dino I think the reference in the 'Probe' pilot to the scanner being a 'green-eyed monster' is more a reference to it being a jealous device wanting his attention than lens colour. There's too many shots of the lens being blue to think it being any other colour. Hello Martin I think your main problem is going to be anchoring the lens in something to hold it steady in the assembly. I've got a transparent light blue button that looks like it'll make a good lens but still looking around for something I can cannibalise for the grip. I got a 5mm LED holder only to discover that its just a tad to small so still looking around for that bit. It'll be a lot easier if it's metal for soldering on the straight grips. Gotta go Geoff ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com or http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Just to let you know, we have now fallen off the scale at Google over at http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ (but we’ll be back there in 3 months - while we oddly have risen to no. 2 at http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ At the more stable DMOZ.org we're still no. 1 at http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ While at Yahoo we're no 3.: http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ We're ranked no. 1 on AOL's science fiction section now over at http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats *************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile 2115 From: "galacticprobe" Date: Thu May 15, 2003 0:07am Subject: Re: Scanner manufacture galacticprobe Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Greetings, Geoff, I've been thinking on this a bit lately. A friend of mine thinks if you do any recreational shooting (guns) you may be able to find a spent casing that would be the correct diameter for the lens holder - made of brass, the right colour, easy to solder, etc. End Run, Dino --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Willmetts" wrote: I got a 5mm LED holder only to > discover that its just a tad to small so still looking around for that bit. > It'll be a lot easier if it's metal for soldering on the straight grips. > 2116 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Thu May 15, 2003 10:49pm Subject: Re: Re: Scanner manufacture gfwillmetts Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hello Dino Er...Shooting is kinda banned over in the UK. We had too many incidents that should never have happened. There are other things suitable, just a question of keeping my eyes open for them though. Thanks for the info. Geoff ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com or http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Just to let you know, we have now fallen off the scale at Google over at http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ (but we’ll be back there in 3 months - while we oddly have risen to no. 2 at http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ At the more stable DMOZ.org we're still no. 1 at http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ While at Yahoo we're no 3.: http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ We're ranked no. 1 on AOL's science fiction section now over at http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats *************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger 2117 From: "bfiler2002000" Date: Tue May 20, 2003 6:46am Subject: Hello! A question... bfiler2002000 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email I discovered this group a couple of months ago and you can't imagine how overjoyed I was to discover that someone else also remembered SEARCH! I was 12 when SEARCH came on and I was a huge fan, it was one of those shows that always kind of stuck with me over the years. I'm looking forward to reading the messages and maybe even seeing some episodes again, if anyone knows where I might get tapes. Of course, we want to keep the discussion more or less SEARCH- centered, but when I think of SEARCH, I can't help but also think of another show from the same time that I loved, it was called THE DELPHI BUREAU. Anybody else remember that one, too? 2118 From: "Jim Welch" Date: Thu May 22, 2003 3:13am Subject: Re: Hello! A question... jimwelch Offline Offline Send Email Send Email --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "bfiler2002000" wrote: > > another show from the same time that I loved, it was called THE > DELPHI BUREAU. Anybody else remember that one, too? Yes, I have it on VHS and watch it every few months. 2119 From: "bfiler2002000" Date: Thu May 22, 2003 6:37am Subject: SEARCH Videos bfiler2002000 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email I was checking my E-mail box a few minutes ago and found two very nice messages from Jim Alexander and Jim Welch. Jim Alexander sent a list of SEARCH episodes that he could dub for me, and Jim Welch told me he has THE DELPHI BUREAU on VHS. I've already sent a private E- mail to Jim Welch, but my account is being balky, and anyway, I thought maybe it would be better to post again and thank you semi- publicly for your offers. I will try to get tapes to you within the next few weeks. Aloma Pedersen (a.k.a. bfiler2002000) Aloma@... 2120 From: "editlist2003" Date: Mon May 26, 2003 4:05am Subject: Scanner Price editlist2003 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email I've seen the Scanner that was once for sale on ebay. There are a few shots of it on the Probecontrol website. How much did it cost? I'm making them now, and I'm trying to get real gemstones for the camera eye. Just want to know what he was asking for it, so I can keep my costs down. Thanks Agent Frank T. -END RUN- 2121 From: "parrottm76262" Date: Thu May 29, 2003 10:19pm Subject: Scanner color/material? parrottm76262 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email After having seen the scanner and associated ring, chain, etc. in all the episodes, I have decided I have no idea what the original color or material was. In many scenes, it looks like white gold or silver. In others, there is a brass or light gold look. I wonder if they had different props made out of different materials? Any comments? Martin Parrott 2122 From: Mike Valerio Date: Fri May 30, 2003 0:33am Subject: Re: Scanner color/material? mvscreen Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Martin: I'm not sure how closely the SEARCH Prop department and Wardrobe department worked together in those days, but I'd imagine that there were probably a couple of different sets of accessories (the ring, the tie-tac, the watch-fob) in different colors or materials (gold, silver, etc) to allow the Wardrobe department the most flexibility in matching accessories with clothing in any given episode. It wouldn't do to have, say, Lockwood wearing a gold wristwatch with a silver ring (or vice versa). I would imagine there were probably some "stunt" models made up as well. Can't have a stunt man smashing the watch-fob to bits in a bad fall in Scene 16 when it's needed for a close-up in Scene 17. In short, I think you're on your own. - Mike Valerio 2123 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Fri May 30, 2003 1:24am Subject: Scanner color/material? probecontrol Offline Offline Send Email Send Email >... I wonder if they had different props made out of different materials? Any comments? -------------------------- Ideally, Martin... the props fellas would have designed a 'hero' scanner... and STUCK with a specific size, color, appearance, etc., but it's entirely possible that all those things DID shift throughout the course of the series. I mean, after all... look what happened to our beloved Probe Control. ;) I'm sure that NO ONE thought that 30 years after the series was cancelled, people would be studying close-ups of the prop, and making their own in their basement workshops. ;) And then again, factors such as lighting, and the differences between a scanner designed for close-ups and scanners designed to be worn by the actors could very well be adding to the confusion, too. That's MY two cents. Jim Alexander probecontrol@... 2124 From: "editlist2003" Date: Sat May 31, 2003 1:59am Subject: Re: Scanner color/material? editlist2003 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email I agree with Jim. If you only knew how many colored "gels" TV people use to light a scene you wouldn't believe it. Do you all remember Star Trek TNG? In the 1st season the uniforms looked maroon. I saw one in person, they were a shade of purple, but all the lights and gels made them appear to be a different color. I think the scanner color is just a matter of preference to anyone who wants to create one. I'm working on them now, and I'm going for gold. In the pilot, the closeup of the scanner at the beginning looks silver, but I still prefer a gold color. Stay well. Frank T. -END RUN- --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Alexander" wrote: > >... I wonder if they had different props made out of different materials? > Any comments? > -------------------------- > Ideally, Martin... the props fellas would have designed a 'hero' scanner... > and STUCK with a specific size, color, appearance, etc., but it's entirely > possible that all those things DID shift throughout the course of the > series. I mean, after all... look what happened to our beloved Probe > Control. ;) I'm sure that NO ONE thought that 30 years after the series > was cancelled, people would be studying close-ups of the prop, and making > their own in their basement workshops. ;) > > And then again, factors such as lighting, and the differences between a > scanner designed for close-ups and scanners designed to be worn by the > actors could very well be adding to the confusion, too. > > That's MY two cents. > > Jim Alexander > probecontrol@s... 2125 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Sat May 31, 2003 10:32pm Subject: Re: Re: Scanner colour & a little plugging gfwillmetts Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hello Martin Personally, I would go for a gold tint rather than a silver looking scanner as I doubt if you'd want to draw too much attention to it if the scanner were for real. Considering that the basic interior shape stayed pretty much the same one could blame film stock than it being made from different metals. The rings, etc work better in silver tint than gold simply because of the magnetic base to hold the scanner in place. Cinematically, for those with poor eyesight, it no doubt helped because it indicated the scanner was no longer stuck to one place. Look at how many times we follow the actors move the scanner from place to place. The only big question is why lady Probes only carried the scanner on one place & didn't have quite the same selection. Oh, before I forget. You all see the blurb where I work on the Net. Last month, what I thought was an inoffensive remark about the number of 'Battlestar: Galactica' fans around ended up being a small piece defending my remarks plus public information where to find their sites. Since my criticisms were about Galactica & not the production side, I dropped a line in about like a certain co-producer's other work & included the 'Search' website amongst the other sites. I doubt if it'll draw in BG fans as the lot I was replying to are rather insular but we have so many new readers going through whatever is on the site that it might draw them in to have a look. Not being offensive, Brian & John, but where are you going to expand the size of the window when moving onto other pages on the Search website?? Gotta go Geoff ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com or http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER Just to let you know, we have now fallen off the scale at Google over at http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ (but we’ll be back there in 3 months - while we oddly have risen to no. 2 at http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ At the more stable DMOZ.org we're still no. 1 at http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ While at Yahoo we're no 3.: http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ We're ranked no. 1 on AOL's science fiction section now over at http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats *************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger