2250 From: "actingman_jc" Date: Thu Oct 9, 2003 10:15pm Subject: We now have a Search Midi actingman_jc Awhile back, Armando Lozano contacted me privately asking about the Search theme. When I pointed him to the sound files on our web site he was very happy and offered to turn it into a midi file. He has sent it to me and I have posted it to the file section of the Yahoo mailing list. You can get it there, or try the link below. http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YNqFPz5alMvPgvZIwApv8QqxHEbQnqtv34jDDdYbJ xDiy2wDcWPzxUxczqYqGMHsIhsnuc_7aUqcjFLRXr65HgeVfug/SEARCH.mid I will post it to the web site one of these years, and I will also send the midi into the keyboard we have, and record the output, so we can hear it with full instruments. 2251 From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:37am Subject: Revised Midi and an additional one actingman_jc Armando just sent me a revised midi of the Probe version of the pilot theme. He made some kind of mistake in the file information. That file is now called SEARCH PRO THEME.mid. He also made a shorter version that is called SEARCH1.mid. Both are in a folder called Search Midis in the files section of the Yahoo mailing list site. And you have received the automatic notification of the files posting with the link. 2252 From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:44pm Subject: Midis and MP3s Are Posted actingman_jc I have now posted Armando's midis to the web site, and I have played them through a Casio WK-1200, recorded the output to mp3 format, and posted those as well. Navigate to www.probecontrol.com and click on the theme link, or go directly using this link http://probecontrol.com/theme.html . The midis and the mp3s are at the bottom of the page. 2253 From: "Martin Parrott" Date: Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:38pm Subject: Re: Midis and MP3s Are Posted parrottm76262 Cool stuff, many thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "actingman_jc" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: [probe_control] Midis and MP3s Are Posted > I have now posted Armando's midis to the web site, and I have played > them through a Casio WK-1200, recorded the output to mp3 format, and > posted those as well. > > Navigate to www.probecontrol.com and click on the theme link, or go > directly using this link http://probecontrol.com/theme.html . The > midis and the mp3s are at the bottom of the page. > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > 2254 From: "bfiler2002000" Date: Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:16pm Subject: Spy Television bfiler2002000 I saw this book advertised on the Channel D group, a Yahoo group for Man From U.N.C.L.E. fans...I'm not sure how long I'll stay with them as they tend to be a bit silly for my taste, I prefer the level of discussion on probe-control, but at least there was one piece of valuable info that came out of it. This book is sure to have info on SEARCH and THE DELPHI BUREAU and any other (spy) show you might want to read about...I can't wait! I have already pre-ordered my copy. The chapter of particular interest to us would seem to be Alao Rans and New Branches, Network Secret Agents from 1963-1980. Incidentally, this book will not be available at your local bookstore, this publisher's business is primarily with schools and libraries, so unless you live near a major library, you may never see this book. The publishers are considering this to be a possible first foray into the mass market, IF they get enough pre-orders... --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Spy Television Wesley Britton --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Description: Spy Television is the first book-length treatment of one of television's oldest and most fascinating genres. For 50 years, television spies have been trained professionals, reluctant heroes, housewives, businessmen, criminals, and comedians; they have by turns been glamorous, campy, reflective, sexy, and aloof. Wesley Britton's comprehensive guide to this notable segment of television entertainment provides readers from casual viewers to die-hard fans with behind-the-scenes stories of how their favorite shows came to the screen and why they succeeded or failed, analyses of series both famous and obscure, and a dissection of the ways in which fact and fiction have routinely been blurred. From the early 1960s, in which television spies were used essentially as anti-Communist propaganda, through the subsequent years that both built upon and parodied this model, through today's gadget-laden world of murky motives and complex global politics, spy television has served as much more than just mere escapism. From the beginning, television spies opened doors for new kinds of heroes: women quickly took center stage along with men, and minority leads paved the way for other kinds of roles on the small screen. A long-overdue and highly enjoyable read, Spy Television is a must for any viewer or espionage fan interested in one of our most enduring modern mythologies. Endorsement From Jon Heitland, author of The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Book: The Behind the Scenes Story of a Television Classic: "Britton has conducted an exhaustive analysis of a unique time in our cultural history--the spy craze of the 1960s and its subsequent ripple effects over the years. He's left no stone unturned in digging up not only the classic entries in this genre, but also the obscure, the forgotten, and the one-season wonders. I thought I knew every entry in this genre, but his book reminded me of many I'd forgotten, and informed me on many I had missed completely. This book is the definitive history of the spy phenomenon that was a cultural outgrowth of the Cold War." Endorsement From Danny Biederman, writer/director, Hollywood SpyTek: "Wesley Britton has his finger squarely on the pulse of the TV spy. A wonderfully comprehensive examination of the numerous spies who have passed through our living rooms over the decades, Britton's Spy Television covers the espionage gamut from Avengers to Wild Wild West. A must-have for anyone interested in the history of this all- important TV genre." Table of Contents: Acknowledgments · Introduction · Defining a Genre · The Roots of a Family Tree · Bond, Beatles, and Camp: The Men from U.N.C.L.E · More British than Bond: John Steed, The Avengers, and Feminist Role-Playing · Cold War Sports and Games: I Spy and Radical Politics · The Cold War and Existential Fables: Danger Man, Secret Agent, and The Prisoner · The Page and the Screen: The Saint and Robin Hood Spies · Interchangeable Parts: Missions: Impossible · Bond on the Prarie: From The Wild Wild West to the Secret Adventures of Jules Verne · Tongues in Cheek to Tongues Sticking Out: Get Smart and the Spoofing of a Genre · Also Rans and New Branches: Network Secret Agents from 1963-1980 · Reagan, Le Carre, Clancy, Cynicism, and Cable: Down to Earth in the 1980s and 1990s · The Return of Fantasy and the Dark Nights of Spies: The X-Files, La Femme Nikita, and the New Millennium · Active and Inactive FILES: Alias, 24, The Agency and 21st Century Spies · Conclusion · The Past, Present, and Future of TV Espionage: Why Spies? · Chapter Notes · References Author Information: WESLEY BRITTON earned his Ph.D. in American Literature from the University of North Texas. Since then he has taught college-level English in Texas, Oklahoma, and Pennsylvania, and has published poetry, book reviews, scholarly, encyclopedia entries, and newspaper columns in various books and periodicals. List Price: $39.95 · ISBN: 0-275-98163-0 · Publication Date: January 30, 2004 To order, visit www.greenwood.com, call 1-800-225-5800, or use this order form: Name: ______________________________ Address: ____________________________ City: _______________________________ State: _______________ Zip: _________ Telephone: ___________ Fax: _________ E-mail address: ________________________ Please call our sales department for information on bulk order discounts. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY PLACE YOUR ORDER TOLL-FREE: 1-800-225-5800 (Prices are subject to change.) QTY ISBN AUTHOR/TITLE PRICE TOTAL 0-275-98163-0 Spy Television $39.95 Shipping and handling: U.S. residents add 10% (Canada residents 12%), $6.00 minimum. IL residents add sales tax on subtotal. CT, CO, MA & PA residents add sales tax on subtotal plus shipping charges. Canada residents add GST tax. Subtotal Shipping Sales Tax Total Fed. ID 06-1154537 · EDI #SAN 210-5829 Enclose tax-exempt certificate if applicable. Check enclosed made payable to Greenwood Publishing Group Bill my institution. PO# ___________ Charge my credit card. MasterCard VISA Am Ex Card#: _______________ Exp. Date: ________ Signature: _______________________________ Ship To: ________________________________ ________________________________ 2255 From: dmanmetz@... Date: Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:17pm Subject: Re: Spy Television dmanmetz@... Wesley, when you receive the Spy book, please keep us posted on any information that may be printed about SEARCH since there is so little/hard to find information about this gem of a television show. Thanks for the tip. Chris 2256 From: dmanmetz@... Date: Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:41pm Subject: Hugh O'brian & Angel Tompkins MIA? dmanmetz@... I was just curious and thought that I would ask have we ever heard for Hugh O'brian or Angel Tompkins again? I know that it has been more than a year since Jim Alexander met Hugh O'brian and according to his article, he was quit impressed and intrested in the fact that so many people had remembered SEARCH. Jim, has he every made contact with you again? Or did he find out who owned the rights to SEARCH and maybe there was no money to be made? I don't know. Also, I know there was another member in the group who was personal friends with Angel Tompkins who played Gloria Harding. I know she has a tell all coming out, which will include her affair with Johnny Carson around the same time frame that she was working on SEARCH. Hopefully she will mention SEARCH in her book. Hmmmmmm, also wondering, had she not quit or was fire (not really sure) was contracted to be the Franciosa and McClure episodes also? There are still so many questions to answered about this intriguing series. Chris 2257 From: dmanmetz@... Date: Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:50pm Subject: New Search Site dmanmetz@... Every now and then I hit the Seach button on the internet to see if any sites have added SEARCH to there web page. I stumbled on one a couple of weeks ago. The web page is dedicated to Novel,Movie, TV detectives. The write up is by Kevin Burton Smith and I'm sure he attended a bulk of his information from Probe_Control@yahoogroups. (Thanks again John & Jim for creating this page/group). He is another of many who thought the SEARCH was an "ultra cool" spy show. You can check out this site at: http:/www.thrillingdetective.com/eyes/search.html Enjoy! Chris 2258 From: dmanmetz@... Date: Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:42pm Subject: There maybe still hope for a Search DVD dmanmetz@... Okay, I guess everybody must think I am e-mail crazy, but I have had a lot on my mind and just haven't taken the time to site down a write out my thoughts. Anyway, cutting to the chase, there are alot of television shows that are getting released on DVD as season 1,2,3,4, etc. Of course we we know that the obvious will be realeased with hugh cult followings such as Star Trek, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, The Simpsons, NYPD Blue, Space 1999, etc. Movie tie ins such as Charlie's Angels, SWAT, and The Incredible Hulk. I was shocked when a first class DVD set was realeased on Wiseguy. I don't if anybody remembered this 1987-1990 CBS ground breaking series that starred Ken Wahl as undercover OCB agent Vinne Terranova. It was one of my favorite shows in the late 1980's, but it was not a hugh ratings blockbuster having it's strongest Nielsen rating during season two in which it rated at number 36. It barley survived 3 1/2 years on strong writting alone (Unheard of today, Anyone watch Boomtown on NBC?). According the DVD write up Wiseguy was one of the most requested shows to be put on DVD. Maybe if if we have enough request, the same could happen for SEARCH. Of course, I'm sure Wiseguy had strong push due to the fact that the well written stories deal with organized crime and the series is seen as a prototype (being the first series to introduce arc stories) for HBO's hughley popular series "The Sopranos". Also playing in Wiseguy's favor is during the second part of the first season, pre-Oscar/Moviestar Kevin Spacey played main bad guy Mel Profit which may contribute to more DVD sales. Besides a large number of request, what would be SEARCH selling points to get customers to buy SEARCH. Well, most important, there is the computer technology (And as stated before "The real star of the show") that was ahead of it's time. I'm sure people would be amazed that show like this could have existed way back in 1972! There is 1970's Nostalgia craze that won't seem to die. Long hair, Turtle necks, square toe shoes, the last two which are back in style. Unfortunately there was no real break star or guest star on SEARCH that may generate intrest. True, O'brian, Franciosa, and McClure were huge stars in the 1960's from their previous TV shows, but after SEARCH none them had hugh hits to retain their carees and the "Big Three" have not gained cult icon status (i.e. James Dean, Steve McQueen, Patrick Macnee, Diana Rigg) to convince the "suits" that there names would lead to sales. Sure Burgess Meredith hit it big with Rocky four years later, but he was alway seen as an outstanding character actor. Then again the is Cheryl Stoppelmoor as Amy Love who later became Cherly Ladd in Charlie's Angels, but she was never gained the hugh folling that Farrah Fawcett had atracted and her part SEARCH was very small. Well maybe the Mystery Channel will get off of their butts and put SEARCH on (according to their page, they have the rights to show SEARCH and the Probe pilot). In thoughts? Oh yeah anybody my count on how many times our were knocked out about two months back? I know the first two e-mails I sent out did not contain my write up, but the third did. Didn't know if anybody read it or not? Chris 2259 From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:23pm Subject: More From Armando actingman_jc Armando has sent to me three MP3s for our enjoyment. The first one is the Probe theme midi as it sounds through his Technics Organ. The second is the second shorter midi, again through his Technics, although he altered it so it sounds more like the Search opening theme. Finally, he took a turn at equalizing the Probe opening theme from the VHS release. All are on the themes page at www.probecontrol.com and the direct link to the page: http://probecontrol.com/theme.html 2260 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:31pm Subject: RE: There maybe still hope for a Search DVD martadawes I can only speak from my own knowledge, but the only reason Columbiahouse released both "Kolchak: The Night Stalker" and "Night Gallery" on VHS tape was because of the books that had been written about them. The Mystery Channel picked up Night Gallery because of that book, and has been running them for the past 2 years. Their contract runs out at the end of this year. We need someone to write a book about "Search." Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites (Alan Brennert's new book is featured on the site!) "Experience should teach us to be on our guard to protect liberty when government's purpose are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment of men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis's great statement from Olmstead v. United States : -----Original Message----- From: dmanmetz@... [mailto:dmanmetz@...] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 2:43 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] There maybe still hope for a Search DVD Okay, I guess everybody must think I am e-mail crazy, but I have had a lot on my mind and just haven't taken the time to site down a write out my thoughts. Anyway, cutting to the chase, there are alot of television shows that are getting released on DVD as season 1,2,3,4, etc. Of course we we know that the obvious will be realeased with hugh cult followings such as Star Trek, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, The Simpsons, NYPD Blue, Space 1999, etc. Movie tie ins such as Charlie's Angels, SWAT, and The Incredible Hulk. I was shocked when a first class DVD set was realeased on Wiseguy. I don't if anybody remembered this 1987-1990 CBS ground breaking series that starred Ken Wahl as undercover OCB agent Vinne Terranova. It was one of my favorite shows in the late 1980's, but it was not a hugh ratings blockbuster having it's strongest Nielsen rating during season two in which it rated at number 36. It barley survived 3 1/2 years on strong writting alone (Unheard of today, Anyone watch Boomtown on NBC?). According the DVD write up Wiseguy was one of the most requested shows to be put on DVD. Maybe if if we have enough request, the same could happen for SEARCH. Of course, I'm sure Wiseguy had strong push due to the fact that the well written stories deal with organized crime and the series is seen as a prototype (being the first series to introduce arc stories) for HBO's hughley popular series "The Sopranos". Also playing in Wiseguy's favor is during the second part of the first season, pre-Oscar/Moviestar Kevin Spacey played main bad guy Mel Profit which may contribute to more DVD sales. Besides a large number of request, what would be SEARCH selling points to get customers to buy SEARCH. Well, most important, there is the computer technology (And as stated before "The real star of the show") that was ahead of it's time. I'm sure people would be amazed that show like this could have existed way back in 1972! There is 1970's Nostalgia craze that won't seem to die. Long hair, Turtle necks, square toe shoes, the last two which are back in style. Unfortunately there was no real break star or guest star on SEARCH that may generate intrest. True, O'brian, Franciosa, and McClure were huge stars in the 1960's from their previous TV shows, but after SEARCH none them had hugh hits to retain their carees and the "Big Three" have not gained cult icon status (i.e. James Dean, Steve McQueen, Patrick Macnee, Diana Rigg) to convince the "suits" that there names would lead to sales. Sure Burgess Meredith hit it big with Rocky four years later, but he was alway seen as an outstanding character actor. Then again the is Cheryl Stoppelmoor as Amy Love who later became Cherly Ladd in Charlie's Angels, but she was never gained the hugh folling that Farrah Fawcett had atracted and her part SEARCH was very small. Well maybe the Mystery Channel will get off of their butts and put SEARCH on (according to their page, they have the rights to show SEARCH and the Probe pilot). In thoughts? Oh yeah anybody my count on how many times our were knocked out about two months back? I know the first two e-mails I sent out did not contain my write up, but the third did. Didn't know if anybody read it or not? Chris Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 2261 From: Mike Valerio Date: Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:04pm Subject: RE: There maybe still hope for a Search DVD mvscreen I'm afraid I'm not optimistic about SEARCH finding distribution on DVD or cable. Our group aside, there is no audience clamoring for it. As Marta points out, there's no SEARCH book. There are no SEARCH conventions. There's no one on eBay selling SEARCH merchandise for big money. The stars of SEARCH did not go onto huge successes with their own fan bases that might be interested in their earlier work. There is, I'm afraid, zero buzz on SEARCH. Worse, no one in Hollywood knows the show even existed. I've worked in network television since 1987. I've been on staff at NBC, ABC, CBS and FOX. I worked for two years at Warner Bros (which owns the show). I’ve had endless numbers of discussions with co-workers at all five companies about Old TV, about the shows we grew up on, the shows that inspired us to move to Los Angeles and break into the television business. No one ever mentions SEARCH. When I bring the show up (and I always do), I get blank stares. No one recalls it. They all remember watching CANNON (the show that ran opposite SEARCH on CBS), but SEARCH never rings a bell. In fact, the only guy in Hollywood I ever ran into who remembered SEARCH was its creator Leslie Stevens...and even he didn't seem very interested in talking about the series for very long. Before SEARCH could ever be released on DVD or cable, there would have to be an organized and massive wave of interest. Letter writing campaigns. Books. Fanzines. Conventions. Live re-enactments of SEARCH scripts in theaters (like THE REAL LIVE BRADY BUNCH). One nicely produced website and one active news group is simply not enough interest for Warner Bros. to invest the millions of dollars in restoration, mastering, duplication, advertising and promotion they would have to spend to sell a 30-year-old series (with two dead cast members) to an 18-34 demo who has never heard of the show....because their parents never heard of the show. I'd love to be proven wrong, though! - Mike Valerio 2262 From: dmanmetz@... Date: Sun Oct 19, 2003 0:33am Subject: Re: There maybe still hope for a Search DVD dmanmetz@... Ouch!!! Thanks for the insight Mike. It hurts, but I guess it is the truth. Chris 2263 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:41am Subject: Question about 'new' SEARCH theme postings probecontrol I very much enjoyed the new postings of the variety of PROBE and SEARCH themes. Forgive my ignorance... but did Bruce and Armando literally compose these 'new' versions of the themes? Or... (and try not to laugh at me too hard if I turn out to be wrong), but... can current technology 'read' the audio of a previously recorded composition, and 'manufacture' an synthisized organ score for it, which simulates the original's instruments? I'm too curious NOT to ask. ;) Jim Alexander probecontrol@... 2264 From: Mr William Simon Date: Mon Oct 20, 2003 11:56am Subject: PROBE/SEARCH on Cable or DVD wm_simon While I can certainly understand and respect both Mike's experience and knowledge of the Industry (I've been close enough to that insanity to recognize the truth of his posts), there IS a sliver of hope. This morning, while waiting for Starz Action Channel to run a movie I've coveted for years, they ran commericals for re-mastered, complete and un-cut episodes of THE GREEN HORNET. Running every Saturday from 8am to 9am EST (two episodes at a shot), I've not seen them yet but will be waiting THIS Saturday. Point being is GH never really "caught on" either, and lasted only one season. Action was playing up the Bruce Lee angle (which dovetails with this whole thread), but if they do it for GH, maybe, just maybe, one day someone will say or think "Hey..what about that one with the three guys and all the computers?" Maybe it's not realistic...but a small sliver of hope is better than none..... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com 2265 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:26am Subject: SEARCH on ENCORE? probecontrol I hate to squash anyone's hopes, but perhaps Mr. Simon wasn't privy to the posts a few months back. So I'll reiterate. While ENCORE/ACTION absolutely IS the place that would be IDEAL to run SEARCH, that was specifically addressed at the channel... and at least at this present time, they passed on the series, saying that it "wasn't well known enough." I DO respect ENCORE and the fact that they at least CONSIDERED airing the series. I gotta give'em credit, there. In the meantime... I am thoroughly enjoying THE GREEN HORNET. And I've enjoyed their airings of THE AVENGERS, THE NEW AVENGERS, and the uncut, hour-long NIGHT GALLERY series, too. Thanks for your e-mail, Mr. Simon. BTW... What was that movie you've been waiting years to see, if you don't mind me asking? This ex-movie critic is curious. ;) P.S. ENCORE/ACTION will be running THE TIME TUNNEL and COMBAT in the months to come, and if I understand correctly, they'll also be airing ALIAS SMITH AND JONES in the future. Jim Alexander probecontrol@... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > While I can certainly understand and respect both > Mike's experience and knowledge of the Industry (I've > been close enough to that insanity to recognize the > truth of his posts), there IS a sliver of hope. This > morning, while waiting for Starz Action Channel to run > a movie I've coveted for years, they ran commericals > for re-mastered, complete and un-cut episodes of THE > GREEN HORNET. Running every Saturday from 8am to 9am > EST (two episodes at a shot), I've not seen them yet > but will be waiting THIS Saturday. > > Point being is GH never really "caught on" either, and > lasted only one season. Action was playing up the > Bruce Lee angle (which dovetails with this whole > thread), but if they do it for GH, maybe, just maybe, > one day someone will say or think "Hey..what about > that one with the three guys and all the computers?" > > Maybe it's not realistic...but a small sliver of hope > is better than none..... 2266 From: Mike Valerio Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:30am Subject: Re: PROBE/SEARCH on Cable or DVD mvscreen William: Two things to consider in the case of THE GREEN HORNET running on STARZ ACTION: (1) Bruce Lee is huge draw for action/kung fu fans and his star has never really faded. The same cannot be said of Hugh O'Brien or Tony Franciosa. (2) KILL BILL is currently in theaters. Ths acton/kung fu film is filled with references to Bruce Lee (Uma Thurman wears his yellow gym suit from GAME OF DEATH) and THE GREEN HORNET (the Kato masks worn by the army of assassions and the use of Al Hirt's "Flight of the Bumblebee" on the soundtrack). When the Buzz Wagon rolls through, you jump on it. Remember when BATMAN and DICK TRACY both hit theaters and certain cable networks started re-running the various Batman and Dick Tracy TV shows, cartoons and serial chapters? Again, there's no buzz on SEARCH. Unfortunately. - MV 2267 From: "lazenbyland" Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:22am Subject: Re: There maybe still hope for a Search DVD lazenbyland I think the biggest stumbling block to the show being released on DVD is that it has never been repeated on either side of the Atlantic. The film Probe is usually shown on network TV hee in the UK once a year. There may be some contractual issues at hand here too which we're not aware of. Experience tells me however that we won't get anywhere with the US networks about repeating the series. For them its ratings, ratings ratings. However the BBC and ITV in the UK are usually pretty receptive to suggestions to revive old series. I think you lot in the USA get BBC America so it could be shown on that too. They've shown the entire Land Of The Giants series and Time Tunnela and Carlton have revived the old Gerry Anderson series of Thunderbirds and UFO etc with a whole line of merchandising. So if you want to get the ball rolling then e-mail the BBC at Info@... telling them about the series and who it starred and when it was originally shown. You'll initially get an automated reply but I've always known them to issue a full reply later on. 2268 From: "lazenbyland" Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:24am Subject: Re: There maybe still hope for a Search DVD lazenbyland That e-mail should be Info AT BBC dot co dot uk if you see what I amean 2269 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:26am Subject: RE: SEARCH on ENCORE? martadawes Oh, yes, we're all over "Combat!" in this house. I've got the dvd recorder ready to record every single one for my husband. :-) Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com Home of "The Graveyards of Omaha" and "The New Twilight Zone" websites (Alan Brennert's new book is featured on the site!) "Experience should teach us to be on our guard to protect liberty when government's purpose are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment of men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis's great statement from Olmstead v. United States : -----Original Message----- From: Jim Alexander [mailto:probecontrol@...] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 10:26 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] SEARCH on ENCORE? I hate to squash anyone's hopes, but perhaps Mr. Simon wasn't privy to the posts a few months back. So I'll reiterate. While ENCORE/ACTION absolutely IS the place that would be IDEAL to run SEARCH, that was specifically addressed at the channel... and at least at this present time, they passed on the series, saying that it "wasn't well known enough." I DO respect ENCORE and the fact that they at least CONSIDERED airing the series. I gotta give'em credit, there. In the meantime... I am thoroughly enjoying THE GREEN HORNET. And I've enjoyed their airings of THE AVENGERS, THE NEW AVENGERS, and the uncut, hour-long NIGHT GALLERY series, too. Thanks for your e-mail, Mr. Simon. BTW... What was that movie you've been waiting years to see, if you don't mind me asking? This ex-movie critic is curious. ;) P.S. ENCORE/ACTION will be running THE TIME TUNNEL and COMBAT in the months to come, and if I understand correctly, they'll also be airing ALIAS SMITH AND JONES in the future. Jim Alexander probecontrol@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- --- > While I can certainly understand and respect both > Mike's experience and knowledge of the Industry (I've > been close enough to that insanity to recognize the > truth of his posts), there IS a sliver of hope. This > morning, while waiting for Starz Action Channel to run > a movie I've coveted for years, they ran commericals > for re-mastered, complete and un-cut episodes of THE > GREEN HORNET. Running every Saturday from 8am to 9am > EST (two episodes at a shot), I've not seen them yet > but will be waiting THIS Saturday. > > Point being is GH never really "caught on" either, and > lasted only one season. Action was playing up the > Bruce Lee angle (which dovetails with this whole > thread), but if they do it for GH, maybe, just maybe, > one day someone will say or think "Hey..what about > that one with the three guys and all the computers?" > > Maybe it's not realistic...but a small sliver of hope > is better than none..... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 2270 From: Mr William Simon Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:15pm Subject: Re: SEARCH on ENCORE? wm_simon Hi, Jim- As I said, it was a sliver of hope..:) The movie I was after was MATT HELM, the pilot for the series starring our own Nick Bianco, Tony Franciosa. Trite, silly, and cliched though it is, the film and series remain a pleasant reminder of college days nostalgia..:) BTW...can anyone tell me how to get rid of the "Mr" on my name? I can't seem to find the switch for it, and posting emails using "Mr" seems pretentious as hell to me..... --- Jim Alexander wrote: > I hate to squash anyone's hopes, but perhaps Mr. > Simon wasn't privy to the > posts a few months back. So I'll reiterate. > > While ENCORE/ACTION absolutely IS the place that > would be IDEAL to run > SEARCH, that was specifically addressed at the > channel... and at least at > this present time, they passed on the series, saying > that it "wasn't well > known enough." > > I DO respect ENCORE and the fact that they at least > CONSIDERED airing the > series. I gotta give'em credit, there. > > In the meantime... I am thoroughly enjoying THE > GREEN HORNET. And I've > enjoyed their airings of THE AVENGERS, THE NEW > AVENGERS, and the uncut, > hour-long NIGHT GALLERY series, too. > > Thanks for your e-mail, Mr. Simon. BTW... What was > that movie you've been > waiting years to see, if you don't mind me asking? > This ex-movie critic is > curious. ;) > > P.S. ENCORE/ACTION will be running THE TIME TUNNEL > and COMBAT in the months > to come, and if I understand correctly, they'll also > be airing ALIAS SMITH > AND JONES in the future. > > Jim Alexander > probecontrol@... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > While I can certainly understand and respect both > > Mike's experience and knowledge of the Industry > (I've > > been close enough to that insanity to recognize > the > > truth of his posts), there IS a sliver of hope. > This > > morning, while waiting for Starz Action Channel to > run > > a movie I've coveted for years, they ran > commericals > > for re-mastered, complete and un-cut episodes of > THE > > GREEN HORNET. Running every Saturday from 8am to > 9am > > EST (two episodes at a shot), I've not seen them > yet > > but will be waiting THIS Saturday. > > > > Point being is GH never really "caught on" either, > and > > lasted only one season. Action was playing up the > > Bruce Lee angle (which dovetails with this whole > > thread), but if they do it for GH, maybe, just > maybe, > > one day someone will say or think "Hey..what about > > that one with the three guys and all the > computers?" > > > > Maybe it's not realistic...but a small sliver of > hope > > is better than none..... > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com 2271 From: Mr William Simon Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:17pm Subject: Re: PROBE/SEARCH on Cable or DVD wm_simon Yeah Mike I know...and more's the pity. Then again....until a few years ago, I SPY was kind of lost in limbo until they started coming out on DVD. If memory serves, the series came out LONG before that absolutely horrendous "update".... All we can do is hope...:) --- Mike Valerio wrote: > Again, there's no buzz on SEARCH. Unfortunately. - > MV > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com 2272 From: Mr William Simon Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:20pm Subject: RE: SEARCH on ENCORE? Sudden update wm_simon The new Critic's Choice Video catalogue now has Season One of THE PROTECTORS, starring Robert Vaughn, Nyree Dawn Porter, and Tony Anholt. Talk about obscure....... Hmmmm...maybe....just MAYBE....some day....!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com 2273 From: Mike Valerio Date: Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:32pm Subject: Re: Re: There maybe still hope for a Search DVD mvscreen >>>> I think the biggest stumbling block to the show being released on DVD is that it has never been repeated on either side of the Atlantic. <<<< Yes, and doesn't that make perfect sense? The show has not been seen by anyone in the US for over 30 years. No one has ever heard of it and there is no demand for it. That's a bit more than a "stumbling block". The sad fact is that for everyone except those of us who have long memories, the show does not exist and never has. Warner Bros. has better, safer, saner ways to spend its money. >>> Experience tells me however that we won't get anywhere with the US networks about repeating the series. For them its ratings, ratings ratings. <<<< Again, right on the money. The networks program shows they think will draw an audience. When the show fails to draw that audience, the show gets canceled. It's the same in theater and publishing and the music business. If your play or book or record doesn't sell, it's yanked and something else takes its place. There's always a few fans left behind to mourn the loss, but that's just the way it goes. Call it Darwinism, call it Capitalism, but its reality. I know we all think SEARCH was a cool show. But we are clearly in the minority. And in television, the minority does not rule. - MV 2274 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Thu Oct 23, 2003 4:09am Subject: OT: Anyone interested in IT TAKES A THIEF episodes? probecontrol Since we've touched on really cool 'spy' shows on this list lately, I wanted to offer listmember some episodes of IT TAKES A THIEF (okay... so Alex Mundy was a thief and NOT a 'spy'). I dubbed copies of these for an individual who decided that he wasn't interested in them after all. And I have no use for them. These are very nice copies--all but a couple are off of my 1st-generation recordings of TV LAND airings--and those couple are from 'local station' airings, and are probably unedited. They're recorded in SP speed. Here are the episodes: IT TAKES A THIEF: Tape One: When Good Friends Get Together To Steal a Battleship Tape Two: The Thingamabob Heist The Funeral is on Mundy Tape Three: Who'll bid Two Million Dollars? The Great Casino Caper Tape Four: A Friend in Deed The Second Time Around Tape Five: To Lure a Man The Steal-Driving Man Tape Six: The Suzie Simone Caper Beyond a Treasonable Doubt Tape Seven: Project X Fortune City I'll let these go for a mere $5 per videocassette. And hey--I'll even pay the postage to get'em to you (if you live in the US). ;) You can contact me off list if interested. Thanks-- Jim Alexander probecontrol@... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 2275 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:34pm Subject: Re: The Protectors isn't that obscure gfwillmetts Hello Bill 'The Protectors' isn't that obscure. In the UK, the company is just working its way through the Gerry Anderson productions. The only complaint I ever had about 'The Protectors' is squeezing so much into a 25 minute format. Geoff ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com or http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER WE DON’T CHOOSE OUR RANK POSITIONS, OTHERS PUT US THERE:- AOL ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats Yahoo ranks SFcrowsnest #4 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ DMOZ ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ Google PageRanks SFcrowsnest #2 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ Alexa ranks SFcrowsnest #2 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://www.alexa.com/browse/general?catid=56670&mode=general *************************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger 2276 From: William Simon Date: Sat Oct 25, 2003 0:55pm Subject: Re: The Protectors isn't that obscure wm_simon Hi Geoff- No matter...my set is on order. And I just learned THE PERSUADERS is now available on DVD for the first time in the US.... God, I love the DVD Revolution..:) --- Geoff Willmetts wrote: > Hello Bill > > 'The Protectors' isn't that obscure. In the UK, the > company is just working > its way through the Gerry Anderson productions. The > only complaint I ever > had about 'The Protectors' is squeezing so much into > a 25 minute format. > > Geoff > > > > ********* GF Willmetts **************************** > Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.com or > http://www.computercrowsnestbooks.com > THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE > THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER > > WE DON’T CHOOSE OUR RANK POSITIONS, OTHERS PUT US > THERE:- > > AOL ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on > the Internet > http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats > > Yahoo ranks SFcrowsnest #4 most popular SFF site on > the Internet > http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ > > DMOZ ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on > the Internet > http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ > > Google PageRanks SFcrowsnest #2 most popular SFF > site on the Internet > http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ > > Alexa ranks SFcrowsnest #2 most popular SFF site on > the Internet > http://www.alexa.com/browse/general?catid=56670&mode=general > *************************************************** > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN > Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com 2277 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Sun Oct 26, 2003 10:48pm Subject: Re: The Protectors isn't that obscure gfwillmetts Hello Bill I'm waiting for someone to decide that releasing The Sandbaggers series in the UK would be a good idea. It's got a better chance than 'Bird Of Prey' (not the Bat series but a British series from the early 80s & nascent computers) & 'Spyder's Web' of getting a video/DVD release. 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Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband 2278 From: "oceangate2110" Date: Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:53pm Subject: Re: Probe on VHS oceangate2110 --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "franklinberke" wrote: > Hi Paul > > I have the 3110, but the remote causes the source tape to do a > little rewind for a few seconds before copying each time I position > the source tape and then pause it. I am hoping that marking scenes > for future copying will do the trick. > > Franklin Hi: Do you have any copies of Probe or Search you would like to sell? I would be very interested. Thanks, George Pugh