#3994 From: dmanmetz@... Date: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:44 pm Subject: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! dmanmetz@... Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking back at the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if they did not include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second page of the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job from the article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they did add the beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you provide them with that Don? Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to Frank Cannon but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was ranked number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that year were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder what kind of damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 season when it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead of you though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was rated for that season. He said he did not have that information available to him. Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. Chris _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html) #3995 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:03 am Subject: RE: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! martadawes Thanks for posting this, Chris. I very much remember both "The Sixth Sense" and "Banyon," the last of which was a decent show starring Robert Forster. At the time it impressed me with its noir feeling, and I was only 15. I would love to see this again. In the early 70's the fall season preview TV Guide was the most awaited magazine at my house. I loved what they did with the new shows section, and I remember the pictures of "Banyon" fondly to this day. "Sixth Sense" hasn't been shown in those uncut 1 hour episodes since that original run; it was chopped down to a half hour, each episode renamed some ridiculously insipid name, and wedged into the "Night Gallery" syndication package with new intros by Rod (for which he was paid a fortune, probably the only reason he did them). It helped to draw the opinion of the far superior NG downwards, since NG had been cut for syndication as well. I remember "Sixth Sense" as being talky and boring, but I'd like to see those uncut episodes again, just to decide for myself. My best friend loved Gary Collins, or I would never have seen the series. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! All we are saying... is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim McBob and Billy Sol Hurok -----Original Message----- From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dmanmetz@... Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking back at the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if they did not include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second page of the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job from the article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they did add the beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you provide them with that Don? Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to Frank Cannon but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was ranked number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that year were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder what kind of damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 season when it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead of you though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was rated for that season. He said he did not have that information available to him. Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. Chris _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html) #3996 From: "Richard D. Perez" Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:55 pm Subject: Re: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! rperez1025 Correction: THE SIXTH SENSE was never recut. The hourlong episodes were simply 're-wrapped' by Serling and added to the NIGHT GALLERY package. It will be interesting to see if these episodes come out on DVD as part of the NIGHT GALLERY releases. BTW, will the fellow who wanted to trade for SEARCH episodes with me please contact ME? Marta Dawes wrote: > > Thanks for posting this, Chris. I very much remember both "The Sixth > Sense" > and "Banyon," the last of which was a decent show starring Robert Forster. > At the time it impressed me with its noir feeling, and I was only 15. I > would love to see this again. In the early 70's the fall season preview TV > Guide was the most awaited magazine at my house. I loved what they did > with > the new shows section, and I remember the pictures of "Banyon" fondly to > this day. > > "Sixth Sense" hasn't been shown in those uncut 1 hour episodes since that > original run; it was chopped down to a half hour, each episode renamed > some > ridiculously insipid name, and wedged into the "Night Gallery" syndication > package with new intros by Rod (for which he was paid a fortune, probably > the only reason he did them). It helped to draw the opinion of the far > superior NG downwards, since NG had been cut for syndication as well. I > remember "Sixth Sense" as being talky and boring, but I'd like to see > those > uncut episodes again, just to decide for myself. My best friend loved Gary > Collins, or I would never have seen the series. > > Marta > > http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > All we are saying... > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > -----Original Message----- > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > ] > On Behalf Of dmanmetz@... > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking > back at > > the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if they did > not > include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second page of > > the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job from the > article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they did add > the > beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you > provide > them with that Don? > Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated > shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to Frank > Cannon > but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was ranked > number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that > year > > were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder what kind > of > damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 season > when > it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead of you > though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was > rated > for > that season. He said he did not have that information available to him. > Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool > advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. > > Chris > > _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ > > (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html > ) #3997 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:50 pm Subject: RE: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! martadawes Re-Correction: The 25 "Sixth Sense" episodes that had been produced were cut down from an hour to a half-hour. They were not rewrapped by Serling; he was hired to speak the intros only, at a hefty price. The words were not even his writing but someone else's. Harry Tatelman, a Universal executive who did this same hatchet job on other series, was hired to cut down the NG episodes as well as the "Sixth Sense" episodes for a syndication package. They were all half-hour desecrations when he got done with them. I own the Yahoo Night Gallery discussion board, have done so for the past four years, and have the Night Gallery Companion in my hands as I type, which states on page 361 exactly what I've typed above. The authors of the book moderate the discussion list. These nor any other NG episodes will be coming out on DVD, at least by Universal. The sales of the first season were not high enough, according to the studio. No mention is made of the shoddiness of the package they put together, which was Universal's fault. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! All we are saying... is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim McBob and Billy Sol Hurok -----Original Message----- From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard D. Perez Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:55 AM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! Correction: THE SIXTH SENSE was never recut. The hourlong episodes were simply 're-wrapped' by Serling and added to the NIGHT GALLERY package. It will be interesting to see if these episodes come out on DVD as part of the NIGHT GALLERY releases. BTW, will the fellow who wanted to trade for SEARCH episodes with me please contact ME? Marta Dawes wrote: > > Thanks for posting this, Chris. I very much remember both "The Sixth > Sense" > and "Banyon," the last of which was a decent show starring Robert Forster. > At the time it impressed me with its noir feeling, and I was only 15. I > would love to see this again. In the early 70's the fall season preview TV > Guide was the most awaited magazine at my house. I loved what they did > with > the new shows section, and I remember the pictures of "Banyon" fondly to > this day. > > "Sixth Sense" hasn't been shown in those uncut 1 hour episodes since that > original run; it was chopped down to a half hour, each episode renamed > some > ridiculously insipid name, and wedged into the "Night Gallery" syndication > package with new intros by Rod (for which he was paid a fortune, probably > the only reason he did them). It helped to draw the opinion of the far > superior NG downwards, since NG had been cut for syndication as well. I > remember "Sixth Sense" as being talky and boring, but I'd like to see > those > uncut episodes again, just to decide for myself. My best friend loved Gary > Collins, or I would never have seen the series. > > Marta > > http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > All we are saying... > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > -----Original Message----- > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > ] > On Behalf Of dmanmetz@... > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking > back at > > the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if they did > not > include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second page of > > the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job from the > article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they did add > the > beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you > provide > them with that Don? > Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated > shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to Frank > Cannon > but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was ranked > number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that > year > > were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder what kind > of > damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 season > when > it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead of you > though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was > rated > for > that season. He said he did not have that information available to him. > Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool > advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. > > Chris > > _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ > > (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html > ) #3998 From: "Richard D. Perez" Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:08 pm Subject: Re: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! rperez1025 Interesting. WLVI here in Boston ran hourlong versions. Marta Dawes wrote: > > Re-Correction: > > The 25 "Sixth Sense" episodes that had been produced were cut down from an > hour to a half-hour. They were not rewrapped by Serling; he was hired to > speak the intros only, at a hefty price. The words were not even his > writing but someone else's. Harry Tatelman, a Universal executive who did > this same hatchet job on other series, was hired to cut down the NG > episodes > as well as the "Sixth Sense" episodes for a syndication package. They were > all half-hour desecrations when he got done with them. > > I own the Yahoo Night Gallery discussion board, have done so for the past > four years, and have the Night Gallery Companion in my hands as I type, > which states on page 361 exactly what I've typed above. The authors of the > book moderate the discussion list. These nor any other NG episodes will be > coming out on DVD, at least by Universal. The sales of the first season > were not high enough, according to the studio. No mention is made of the > shoddiness of the package they put together, which was Universal's fault. > > Marta > > http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > All we are saying... > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > -----Original Message----- > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > ] > On Behalf Of Richard D. Perez > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:55 AM > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > Correction: > > THE SIXTH SENSE was never recut. The hourlong episodes were simply > 're-wrapped' by Serling and added to the NIGHT GALLERY package. It will > be interesting to see if these episodes come out on DVD as part of the > NIGHT GALLERY releases. > > BTW, will the fellow who wanted to trade for SEARCH episodes with me > please contact ME? > > Marta Dawes wrote: > > > > Thanks for posting this, Chris. I very much remember both "The Sixth > > Sense" > > and "Banyon," the last of which was a decent show starring Robert > Forster. > > At the time it impressed me with its noir feeling, and I was only 15. I > > would love to see this again. In the early 70's the fall season > preview TV > > Guide was the most awaited magazine at my house. I loved what they did > > with > > the new shows section, and I remember the pictures of "Banyon" fondly to > > this day. > > > > "Sixth Sense" hasn't been shown in those uncut 1 hour episodes since > that > > original run; it was chopped down to a half hour, each episode renamed > > some > > ridiculously insipid name, and wedged into the "Night Gallery" > syndication > > package with new intros by Rod (for which he was paid a fortune, > probably > > the only reason he did them). It helped to draw the opinion of the far > > superior NG downwards, since NG had been cut for syndication as well. I > > remember "Sixth Sense" as being talky and boring, but I'd like to see > > those > > uncut episodes again, just to decide for myself. My best friend > loved Gary > > Collins, or I would never have seen the series. > > > > Marta > > > > http://www.steveandmarta.com > > - See the > > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > > > All we are saying... > > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - > Big Jim > > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > ] > > On Behalf Of dmanmetz@... > > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM > > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > > > Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking > > back at > > > > the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if > they did > > not > > include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second > page of > > > > the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job > from the > > article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they did add > > the > > beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you > > provide > > them with that Don? > > Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated > > shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to > Frank > > Cannon > > but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was > ranked > > number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that > > year > > > > were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder what kind > > of > > damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 > season > > when > > it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead of you > > though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was > > rated > > for > > that season. He said he did not have that information available to him. > > Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool > > advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. > > > > Chris > > > > _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ > > > > > > (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html > > > >) #3999 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:09 pm Subject: RE: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! martadawes If the station showed the hour-long "Sixth Sense" episodes with a Serling intro, it had to be something put together by the station itself. How long ago was this? To my knowledge those hour-long "SS" episodes have never been shown since their original run. Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! All we are saying... is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim McBob and Billy Sol Hurok -----Original Message----- From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard D. Perez Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 9:08 AM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! Interesting. WLVI here in Boston ran hourlong versions. Marta Dawes wrote: > > Re-Correction: > > The 25 "Sixth Sense" episodes that had been produced were cut down from an > hour to a half-hour. They were not rewrapped by Serling; he was hired to > speak the intros only, at a hefty price. The words were not even his > writing but someone else's. Harry Tatelman, a Universal executive who did > this same hatchet job on other series, was hired to cut down the NG > episodes > as well as the "Sixth Sense" episodes for a syndication package. They were > all half-hour desecrations when he got done with them. > > I own the Yahoo Night Gallery discussion board, have done so for the past > four years, and have the Night Gallery Companion in my hands as I type, > which states on page 361 exactly what I've typed above. The authors of the > book moderate the discussion list. These nor any other NG episodes will be > coming out on DVD, at least by Universal. The sales of the first season > were not high enough, according to the studio. No mention is made of the > shoddiness of the package they put together, which was Universal's fault. > > Marta > > http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > All we are saying... > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > -----Original Message----- > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > ] > On Behalf Of Richard D. Perez > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:55 AM > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > Correction: > > THE SIXTH SENSE was never recut. The hourlong episodes were simply > 're-wrapped' by Serling and added to the NIGHT GALLERY package. It will > be interesting to see if these episodes come out on DVD as part of the > NIGHT GALLERY releases. > > BTW, will the fellow who wanted to trade for SEARCH episodes with me > please contact ME? > > Marta Dawes wrote: > > > > Thanks for posting this, Chris. I very much remember both "The Sixth > > Sense" > > and "Banyon," the last of which was a decent show starring Robert > Forster. > > At the time it impressed me with its noir feeling, and I was only 15. I > > would love to see this again. In the early 70's the fall season > preview TV > > Guide was the most awaited magazine at my house. I loved what they did > > with > > the new shows section, and I remember the pictures of "Banyon" fondly to > > this day. > > > > "Sixth Sense" hasn't been shown in those uncut 1 hour episodes since > that > > original run; it was chopped down to a half hour, each episode renamed > > some > > ridiculously insipid name, and wedged into the "Night Gallery" > syndication > > package with new intros by Rod (for which he was paid a fortune, > probably > > the only reason he did them). It helped to draw the opinion of the far > > superior NG downwards, since NG had been cut for syndication as well. I > > remember "Sixth Sense" as being talky and boring, but I'd like to see > > those > > uncut episodes again, just to decide for myself. My best friend > loved Gary > > Collins, or I would never have seen the series. > > > > Marta > > > > http://www.steveandmarta.com > > - See the > > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > > > All we are saying... > > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - > Big Jim > > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > ] > > On Behalf Of dmanmetz@... > > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM > > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > > > Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking > > back at > > > > the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if > they did > > not > > include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second > page of > > > > the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job > from the > > article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they did add > > the > > beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you > > provide > > them with that Don? > > Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated > > shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to > Frank > > Cannon > > but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was > ranked > > number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that > > year > > > > were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder what kind > > of > > damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 > season > > when > > it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead of you > > though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was > > rated > > for > > that season. He said he did not have that information available to him. > > Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool > > advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. > > > > Chris > > > > _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ > > > > > > (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html > > > >) #4000 From: "Skip Brown" Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:49 pm Subject: Re: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! skipster61 I vaguely remember Banyon, so I can't comment much about it. But "Sixth Sense" is another story. I remember, at 11 years(?) old it scared the heck out of me. It's pilot started as an episode of "Night Gallery", didn't it? While we are talking about anthologies, anyone remember the "Night Gallery" knock off called "Ghost Story" hosted by Family Affair's "Mr. French" (Sebastian Cabot)? There is another show that scared me! I suppose if I saw them now, I would laugh. Other TV Movies that scared me during that era: "Something Evil" Speilberg directed this chiller about a family on a farm, where the devil comes to stay. "Black Noon" Roy Thinnes is a preacher in a western town named "San Melas" terrorized by a devil cult "The Eyes Of Charles Sand" Another pilot movie about a man who uses his supernatural "sight" to solve crimes. Ooooo... Scary..... brrrrrrrr. Skip On 7/15/06, Richard D. Perez wrote: > > Interesting. WLVI here in Boston ran hourlong versions. > > > Marta Dawes wrote: > > > > Re-Correction: > > > > The 25 "Sixth Sense" episodes that had been produced were cut down from > an > > hour to a half-hour. They were not rewrapped by Serling; he was hired to > > speak the intros only, at a hefty price. The words were not even his > > writing but someone else's. Harry Tatelman, a Universal executive who > did > > this same hatchet job on other series, was hired to cut down the NG > > episodes > > as well as the "Sixth Sense" episodes for a syndication package. They > were > > all half-hour desecrations when he got done with them. > > > > I own the Yahoo Night Gallery discussion board, have done so for the > past > > four years, and have the Night Gallery Companion in my hands as I type, > > which states on page 361 exactly what I've typed above. The authors of > the > > book moderate the discussion list. These nor any other NG episodes will > be > > coming out on DVD, at least by Universal. The sales of the first season > > were not high enough, according to the studio. No mention is made of the > > shoddiness of the package they put together, which was Universal's > fault. > > > > Marta > > > > http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the > > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > > > All we are saying... > > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big > Jim > > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > ] > > On Behalf Of Richard D. Perez > > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:55 AM > > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com probe_control%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > > > Correction: > > > > THE SIXTH SENSE was never recut. The hourlong episodes were simply > > 're-wrapped' by Serling and added to the NIGHT GALLERY package. It will > > be interesting to see if these episodes come out on DVD as part of the > > NIGHT GALLERY releases. > > > > BTW, will the fellow who wanted to trade for SEARCH episodes with me > > please contact ME? > > > > Marta Dawes wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for posting this, Chris. I very much remember both "The Sixth > > > Sense" > > > and "Banyon," the last of which was a decent show starring Robert > > Forster. > > > At the time it impressed me with its noir feeling, and I was only 15. > I > > > would love to see this again. In the early 70's the fall season > > preview TV > > > Guide was the most awaited magazine at my house. I loved what they did > > > with > > > the new shows section, and I remember the pictures of "Banyon" fondly > to > > > this day. > > > > > > "Sixth Sense" hasn't been shown in those uncut 1 hour episodes since > > that > > > original run; it was chopped down to a half hour, each episode renamed > > > some > > > ridiculously insipid name, and wedged into the "Night Gallery" > > syndication > > > package with new intros by Rod (for which he was paid a fortune, > > probably > > > the only reason he did them). It helped to draw the opinion of the far > > > superior NG downwards, since NG had been cut for syndication as well. > I > > > remember "Sixth Sense" as being talky and boring, but I'd like to see > > > those > > > uncut episodes again, just to decide for myself. My best friend > > loved Gary > > > Collins, or I would never have seen the series. > > > > > > Marta > > > > > > http://www.steveandmarta.com > > > - See the > > > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > > > > > All we are saying... > > > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > > > > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - > > Big Jim > > > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > > ] > > > On Behalf Of dmanmetz@... > 40aol.com> > > 40aol.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM > > > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > Subject: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > > > > > Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking > > > back at > > > > > > the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if > > they did > > > not > > > include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second > > page of > > > > > > the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job > > from the > > > article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they did > add > > > the > > > beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you > > > provide > > > them with that Don? > > > Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated > > > shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to > > Frank > > > Cannon > > > but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was > > ranked > > > number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that > > > year > > > > > > were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder what > kind > > > of > > > damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 > > season > > > when > > > it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead of > you > > > though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was > > > rated > > > for > > > that season. He said he did not have that information available to > him. > > > Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool > > > advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ > > > > > > > > > > > (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html > > > > > > >) #4001 From: "Richard D. Perez" Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:51 pm Subject: Re: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! rperez1025 Early 80s. Marta Dawes wrote: > > If the station showed the hour-long "Sixth Sense" episodes with a Serling > intro, it had to be something put together by the station itself. How long > ago was this? To my knowledge those hour-long "SS" episodes have never > been > shown since their original run. > > Marta > > http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > All we are saying... > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > -----Original Message----- > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > ] > On Behalf Of Richard D. Perez > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 9:08 AM > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > Interesting. WLVI here in Boston ran hourlong versions. > > Marta Dawes wrote: > > > > Re-Correction: > > > > The 25 "Sixth Sense" episodes that had been produced were cut down > from an > > hour to a half-hour. They were not rewrapped by Serling; he was hired to > > speak the intros only, at a hefty price. The words were not even his > > writing but someone else's. Harry Tatelman, a Universal executive > who did > > this same hatchet job on other series, was hired to cut down the NG > > episodes > > as well as the "Sixth Sense" episodes for a syndication package. > They were > > all half-hour desecrations when he got done with them. > > > > I own the Yahoo Night Gallery discussion board, have done so for the > past > > four years, and have the Night Gallery Companion in my hands as I type, > > which states on page 361 exactly what I've typed above. The authors > of the > > book moderate the discussion list. These nor any other NG episodes > will be > > coming out on DVD, at least by Universal. The sales of the first season > > were not high enough, according to the studio. No mention is made of the > > shoddiness of the package they put together, which was Universal's > fault. > > > > Marta > > > > http://www.steveandmarta.com > > - See the > > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > > > All we are saying... > > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - > Big Jim > > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > ] > > On Behalf Of Richard D. Perez > > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:55 AM > > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > > > Correction: > > > > THE SIXTH SENSE was never recut. The hourlong episodes were simply > > 're-wrapped' by Serling and added to the NIGHT GALLERY package. It will > > be interesting to see if these episodes come out on DVD as part of the > > NIGHT GALLERY releases. > > > > BTW, will the fellow who wanted to trade for SEARCH episodes with me > > please contact ME? > > > > Marta Dawes wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for posting this, Chris. I very much remember both "The Sixth > > > Sense" > > > and "Banyon," the last of which was a decent show starring Robert > > Forster. > > > At the time it impressed me with its noir feeling, and I was only > 15. I > > > would love to see this again. In the early 70's the fall season > > preview TV > > > Guide was the most awaited magazine at my house. I loved what they did > > > with > > > the new shows section, and I remember the pictures of "Banyon" > fondly to > > > this day. > > > > > > "Sixth Sense" hasn't been shown in those uncut 1 hour episodes since > > that > > > original run; it was chopped down to a half hour, each episode renamed > > > some > > > ridiculously insipid name, and wedged into the "Night Gallery" > > syndication > > > package with new intros by Rod (for which he was paid a fortune, > > probably > > > the only reason he did them). It helped to draw the opinion of the far > > > superior NG downwards, since NG had been cut for syndication as > well. I > > > remember "Sixth Sense" as being talky and boring, but I'd like to see > > > those > > > uncut episodes again, just to decide for myself. My best friend > > loved Gary > > > Collins, or I would never have seen the series. > > > > > > Marta > > > > > > http://www.steveandmarta.com > > > > > >> - See the > > > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > > > > > All we are saying... > > > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > > > > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - > > Big Jim > > > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > ] > > > On Behalf Of dmanmetz@... > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM > > > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Subject: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > > > > > Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking > > > back at > > > > > > the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if > > they did > > > not > > > include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second > > page of > > > > > > the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job > > from the > > > article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they > did add > > > the > > > beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you > > > provide > > > them with that Don? > > > Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated > > > shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to > > Frank > > > Cannon > > > but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was > > ranked > > > number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that > > > year > > > > > > were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder > what kind > > > of > > > damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 > > season > > > when > > > it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead > of you > > > though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was > > > rated > > > for > > > that season. He said he did not have that information available to > him. > > > Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool > > > advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ > > > > > > > > > >> > > > (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html > > > > > > > > > >>) #4002 From: "actingman_jc" Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:27 pm Subject: Something To Take Us All Back actingman_jc I did a quick and dirty scan of the tv listings from the March 30th, 1968 issue of TV Guide. They are not the extreme 300dpi images I usually do, but they should be readable. The 40 images are in a zip file hidden on the web site: http://probecontrol.com/temp/TVGuide033068.zip Download and unzip the file and let the off topic discussions begin. #4003 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:06 am Subject: Re: Something To Take Us All Back probecontrol John wrote: >... Download and unzip the file and let the off topic discussions begin. =============== Just generally-- with regards to TV GUIDE--John's pages reminded me what a classy publication TV GUIDE used to be, and how far it's come. And I don't mean that in a good way. Regarding TV in general: With the three networks, it was a thrill to crack open the new GUIDE and see what network movies would be playing that week on TV! Those movies were truly special occasions--in the era before VHS and DVDs. Not to mention the shows being done during that era! I personally believe that 1965-1969 were the best years for genre TV--ever. Some of the finest, most classic shows were being produced during that time. And in relation to the 'old' TV GUIDE--It was a wonderful publication back in the day, because it boasted exclusive photos taken 'specially for TV GUIDE, not to mention in-depth articles by some truly great writers. And those breathtaking COVERS! A prime example being Our Favorite Show done by artist Bob Peak--who gained even MORE fame and respect during the 80's and 90's. Yes--many of those old TV GUIDE covers were certainly 'frameable.' Things of beauty they were. That can't be said today. Each new issue of TV GUIDE was a thrill. Maybe it was just me, but that's the way I felt about it. ;) I saved decades of TV GUIDES--back when it used to BE something. Now I don't even buy it any longer. :( Jim Alexander #4004 From: actingman6@... Date: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:27 am Subject: Re: Something To Take Us All Back actingman_jc This 1968 issue I have, and the 1969 issue that I took the single page scan from that is in the group files section have long ago lost their covers...but the rest of the pages are there. At some point I may do a more proper scan and include the articles. One interesting thing about the 1968 issue is some of the programming did not get seen. That was a busy week. That Sunday, March 31, President Johnson gave an address to the nation on Vietnam and ended it by saying he would not seek re-election, and on Thursday, April 4, Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee. On 7/15/06, Jim Alexander wrote: > > John wrote: > >... Download and unzip the file and let the off topic discussions begin. > =============== > Just generally-- with regards to TV GUIDE--John's pages reminded me what a > classy publication TV GUIDE used to be, and how far it's come. And I don't > mean that in a good way. > > Regarding TV in general: With the three networks, it was a thrill to crack > open the new GUIDE and see what network movies would be playing that week on > TV! Those movies were truly special occasions--in the era before VHS and > DVDs. Not to mention the shows being done during that era! I personally > believe that 1965-1969 were the best years for genre TV--ever. Some of the > finest, most classic shows were being produced during that time. > > And in relation to the 'old' TV GUIDE--It was a wonderful publication back > in the day, because it boasted exclusive photos taken 'specially for TV > GUIDE, not to mention in-depth articles by some truly great writers. And > those breathtaking COVERS! A prime example being Our Favorite Show done by > artist Bob Peak--who gained even MORE fame and respect during the 80's and > 90's. Yes--many of those old TV GUIDE covers were certainly 'frameable.' > Things of beauty they were. > > That can't be said today. > > Each new issue of TV GUIDE was a thrill. Maybe it was just me, but that's > the way I felt about it. ;) I saved decades of TV GUIDES--back when it used > to BE something. Now I don't even buy it any longer. :( > > Jim Alexander > #4005 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:41 am Subject: Re: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! dghprobe3 --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, dmanmetz@... wrote: > ...they did add the > beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did > you provide them with that Don? > _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ > (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html) Hi Chris: Thanks for the info on TV Party and the link. I knew that Billy Ingram was doing a retro look at 1972 and wondered if he would mention Search. Well, he gave the show special mention, which is great and hopefully will draw more members to our list. I did send Billy a VHS with three episodes on it, and Gold Machine was one of them. On the comparison to '24,' I wish Billy had put it more this way: "Think of SEARCH as being the analog predecessor to the digital '24.'" I was going to put together and send to Billy an update article based on some of the new information Jim was able to get from John Strong, and from other sources. But I was holding off because I thought Jim said he was going to try for a follow up with Mr. Strong. Jim, let us know if that is something we should be looking out for, okay? :-) Thanks also to Actingman for posting those TV Guide scans. Brings back lots of memories. I still have a few old TV Guides from the 1960's and 70's, some in better condition than others. I might fill a disc with scans, slanted toward genre show listings, and send them to you one of these days... ---Don #4006 From: "Marta Dawes" Date: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:27 am Subject: RE: Something To Take Us All Back martadawes I agree with you totally on TV Guide. It used to be something I looked forward too, even in the 80's, but it's steadily gone downhill. I don't suppose it could have kept up the quality forever, but it was something special in the late 60's to late 70's. Kids today couldn't understand that, I guess, with media everywhere. It's one of the things I truly miss. There's a book being readied for publication about Bob Peak; I ran across the site last week. No idea when it's going to come out, but I'm looking forward to it. It's like a trip back through those TV Guide years. http://www.fleskpublications.com/publications/peak/ Marta http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! All we are saying... is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim McBob and Billy Sol Hurok -----Original Message----- From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Alexander Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:06 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [probe_control] Something To Take Us All Back John wrote: >... Download and unzip the file and let the off topic discussions begin. =============== Just generally-- with regards to TV GUIDE--John's pages reminded me what a classy publication TV GUIDE used to be, and how far it's come. And I don't mean that in a good way. Regarding TV in general: With the three networks, it was a thrill to crack open the new GUIDE and see what network movies would be playing that week on TV! Those movies were truly special occasions--in the era before VHS and DVDs. Not to mention the shows being done during that era! I personally believe that 1965-1969 were the best years for genre TV--ever. Some of the finest, most classic shows were being produced during that time. And in relation to the 'old' TV GUIDE--It was a wonderful publication back in the day, because it boasted exclusive photos taken 'specially for TV GUIDE, not to mention in-depth articles by some truly great writers. And those breathtaking COVERS! A prime example being Our Favorite Show done by artist Bob Peak--who gained even MORE fame and respect during the 80's and 90's. Yes--many of those old TV GUIDE covers were certainly 'frameable.' Things of beauty they were. That can't be said today. Each new issue of TV GUIDE was a thrill. Maybe it was just me, but that's the way I felt about it. ;) I saved decades of TV GUIDES--back when it used to BE something. Now I don't even buy it any longer. :( Jim Alexander #4007 From: dmanmetz@... Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:11 pm Subject: Hugh O'Brian/ 1973 Celebrity Bowling Clip on VH1 dmanmetz@... Hi gang. I don't know if anyone has been watching VH1's I Love the 70's: Volume II. Anyway, cutting to the chase, they will be showing the 1973 episode tomorrow at 3:00 PM Eastern Time. There is about a 60 second clip of a 1973 show called the Celebrity Bowling show (first I ever heard of it). The clip they use has Hugh O'Brian in it, which when he was probably he was doing Search or it had just been canceled. They reason they chose to highlight this particular episode....................WILLIAM SHATNER!!! The man himself, Captain James T. Kirk complete with his real 70's hair and Saturday Night Fever Disco clothes. Hilarious! They never mention Hugh O'Brian's name, I just happen to notice him. Check it out. Chris #4008 From: "Morningstar" Date: Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:12 am Subject: Re: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! am2star While "The Twilight Zone" was the best of the series, I enjoyed both "Night Gallery" and "The Sixth Sense." I think that I liked "the Sixth Sense" more than "Night Gallery." SS just came across as less scare and more intellectual, more science fiction than horror. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Marta Dawes" wrote: > > Thanks for posting this, Chris. I very much remember both "The Sixth Sense" > and "Banyon," the last of which was a decent show starring Robert Forster. > At the time it impressed me with its noir feeling, and I was only 15. I > would love to see this again. In the early 70's the fall season preview TV > Guide was the most awaited magazine at my house. I loved what they did with > the new shows section, and I remember the pictures of "Banyon" fondly to > this day. > > "Sixth Sense" hasn't been shown in those uncut 1 hour episodes since that > original run; it was chopped down to a half hour, each episode renamed some > ridiculously insipid name, and wedged into the "Night Gallery" syndication > package with new intros by Rod (for which he was paid a fortune, probably > the only reason he did them). It helped to draw the opinion of the far > superior NG downwards, since NG had been cut for syndication as well. I > remember "Sixth Sense" as being talky and boring, but I'd like to see those > uncut episodes again, just to decide for myself. My best friend loved Gary > Collins, or I would never have seen the series. > > Marta > > http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > All we are saying... > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > > -----Original Message----- > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of dmanmetz@... > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking back at > > the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if they did > not > include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second page of > > the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job from the > article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they did add > the > beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you > provide > them with that Don? > Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated > shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to Frank > Cannon > but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was ranked > number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that year > > were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder what kind > of > damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 season > when > it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead of you > though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was rated > for > that season. He said he did not have that information available to him. > Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool > advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. > > Chris > > _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ > (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html) #4009 From: "Morningstar" Date: Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:17 am Subject: Re: 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! am2star Bummer about the other seasons of "Night Gallery." I bought the first season and hoped for more. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Marta Dawes" wrote: > > Re-Correction: > > The 25 "Sixth Sense" episodes that had been produced were cut down from an > hour to a half-hour. They were not rewrapped by Serling; he was hired to > speak the intros only, at a hefty price. The words were not even his > writing but someone else's. Harry Tatelman, a Universal executive who did > this same hatchet job on other series, was hired to cut down the NG episodes > as well as the "Sixth Sense" episodes for a syndication package. They were > all half-hour desecrations when he got done with them. > > I own the Yahoo Night Gallery discussion board, have done so for the past > four years, and have the Night Gallery Companion in my hands as I type, > which states on page 361 exactly what I've typed above. The authors of the > book moderate the discussion list. These nor any other NG episodes will be > coming out on DVD, at least by Universal. The sales of the first season > were not high enough, according to the studio. No mention is made of the > shoddiness of the package they put together, which was Universal's fault. > > Marta > > http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > All we are saying... > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > -----Original Message----- > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Richard D. Perez > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 7:55 AM > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > Correction: > > THE SIXTH SENSE was never recut. The hourlong episodes were simply > 're-wrapped' by Serling and added to the NIGHT GALLERY package. It will > be interesting to see if these episodes come out on DVD as part of the > NIGHT GALLERY releases. > > BTW, will the fellow who wanted to trade for SEARCH episodes with me > please contact ME? > > Marta Dawes wrote: > > > > Thanks for posting this, Chris. I very much remember both "The Sixth > > Sense" > > and "Banyon," the last of which was a decent show starring Robert Forster. > > At the time it impressed me with its noir feeling, and I was only 15. I > > would love to see this again. In the early 70's the fall season preview TV > > Guide was the most awaited magazine at my house. I loved what they did > > with > > the new shows section, and I remember the pictures of "Banyon" fondly to > > this day. > > > > "Sixth Sense" hasn't been shown in those uncut 1 hour episodes since that > > original run; it was chopped down to a half hour, each episode renamed > > some > > ridiculously insipid name, and wedged into the "Night Gallery" syndication > > package with new intros by Rod (for which he was paid a fortune, probably > > the only reason he did them). It helped to draw the opinion of the far > > superior NG downwards, since NG had been cut for syndication as well. I > > remember "Sixth Sense" as being talky and boring, but I'd like to see > > those > > uncut episodes again, just to decide for myself. My best friend loved Gary > > Collins, or I would never have seen the series. > > > > Marta > > > > http://www.steveandmarta.com - See the > > 2004 Twilight Zone Convention page! > > > > All we are saying... > > is give Peace a chance. - John Lennon > > > > May the good Lord take a likin' to ya and blow ya up real soon! - Big Jim > > McBob and Billy Sol Hurok > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > > [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > ] > > On Behalf Of dmanmetz@... > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM > > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [probe_control] 1972-1973 season reviewed on TV PARTY! > > > > Hi gang, just wanted to let everyone know that TV PARTY! is looking > > back at > > > > the 1972-1973 TV season. Of course I wouldn't be writing this if they did > > not > > include Search. Search is one the program's profiled on the second page of > > > > the article. Most of the write up looks like a cut and paste job from the > > article Don Harden submitted about three years ago. However they did add > > the > > beginning teaser and opening title of the Gold Machine. COOL! Did you > > provide > > them with that Don? > > Somehow they managed to fine out what some of the other lower rated > > shows ranked for the season. Search may have lost the ratings war to Frank > > Cannon > > but Probe Control kicked the Julie Andrews Show butt! Her show was ranked > > number 61 for the Neilsens. The only other two shows less popular that > > year > > > > were The Sixth Sense and Banyon (remember that one?). I wonder what kind > > of > > damage Owen Marshall did to Search for the second part of the 1973 season > > when > > it was moved into the Julie Andrews time slot. I am already ahead of you > > though. I e-mailed the author, Billy Ingram and asked were Search was > > rated > > for > > that season. He said he did not have that information available to him. > > Like I said, a good interesting for TV buffs. Also, look for the cool > > advertisement for the Sixth Sense. Enjoy. > > > > Chris > > > > _http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html_ > > > > (http://www.tvparty.com/70fall72-2.html > > ) #4010 From: "Morningstar" Date: Wed Jul 19, 2006 3:34 am Subject: Re: Something To Take Us All Back am2star Jim, I know exactly what you mean. TV Guide used to be a "collectible" magazine about television. Now, it is a glorified People. And, with only 52 issues a year, they put on the cover: opening football season, opening baseball season, NASCAR, basketball playoffs, baseball playoffs, and superbowl. Not much time for the other good programs, especially when they hype theatrical movies, too. I collected them for twenty-five years. Now, I don't bother. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Alexander" wrote: > > John wrote: > >... Download and unzip the file and let the off topic discussions begin. > =============== > Just generally-- with regards to TV GUIDE--John's pages reminded me what a classy publication TV GUIDE used to be, and how far it's come. And I don't mean that in a good way. > > Regarding TV in general: With the three networks, it was a thrill to crack open the new GUIDE and see what network movies would be playing that week on TV! Those movies were truly special occasions--in the era before VHS and DVDs. Not to mention the shows being done during that era! I personally believe that 1965-1969 were the best years for genre TV--ever. Some of the finest, most classic shows were being produced during that time. > > And in relation to the 'old' TV GUIDE--It was a wonderful publication back in the day, because it boasted exclusive photos taken 'specially for TV GUIDE, not to mention in-depth articles by some truly great writers. And those breathtaking COVERS! A prime example being Our Favorite Show done by artist Bob Peak--who gained even MORE fame and respect during the 80's and 90's. Yes--many of those old TV GUIDE covers were certainly 'frameable.' Things of beauty they were. > > That can't be said today. > > Each new issue of TV GUIDE was a thrill. Maybe it was just me, but that's the way I felt about it. ;) I saved decades of TV GUIDES--back when it used to BE something. Now I don't even buy it any longer. :( > > Jim Alexander #4011 From: Date: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:32 pm Subject: Re: Re: Something To Take Us All Back probecontrol Morningstar wrote: >... I know exactly what you mean. TV Guide used to be a "collectible" magazine about television. Now, it is a glorified People. And, with only 52 issues a year, they put on the cover: opening football season, opening baseball season, NASCAR, basketball playoffs, baseball playoffs, and superbowl. Not much time for the other good programs, especially when they hype theatrical movies, too. ================ You're right. I've been appalled at the number of TV GUIDE 'movie' tie-in covers over the last few years. I remember the whole 'series' of Tim Burton's PLANET OF THE APES 'collectible covers', and weren't there a slew of SPIDER- MAN, LORD OF THE RINGS and X-MEN covers, too? These have to do with TV... how? :) And speaking of the decline in the 'classiness' of the magazine, the sad part is--I believe that TV GUIDE says that sales are up, after their switching to their new PEOPLE-like format. >>sigh<< Thanks-- Jim Alexander #4012 From: actingman6@... Date: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:46 pm Subject: Re: Re: Something To Take Us All Back actingman_jc In early 2001, I interviewed for a part time job at TV Guide in NYC to do data-base entry for their online material. They wanted the person to aggressively research information on new movies...saying they did not always get the press releases and kits with the needed info. During the interview I ended up talking about old tv and the history of the magazine. There ended up being a hiring freeze so nobody got the job...which was just as well. As I was talking to them it occured to me that the last thing I wanted to do was research the latest movies for a tv publication. It was a tv publication. I wanted to build up their online database with...get ready for it...TV!!!!! I also held my tongue during the interview, and did not ask them why they were a tv publication focusing on theatrical movies. Having seen the direction the magazine was going in the previous few years, I figured it was pointless to ask. As far as their magazine being sucessful now, I don't know if I would believe what they have to say about it. Sales may be up more, or the level of sales they have now may be more profitable for them since they no longer have the cost of doing regional editions. Or their newsstand sales may be up...while at the same time their subscriptions may be down. I will say that they were very prompt in refunding my subscription money when I canceled it. I am sure I am in the minority on this, but they said that more people were getting their local listings from online sources so they had to change their magazine...well I had to start getting my local listings from online sources BECAUSE they changed their magazine. Here's a free program I have been using. It is pretty good, although it requires some setup. You also have to sign up for a free membership at the place the program grabs the listings from...and every 3 or 4 months answer like a two question survey to extend the membership...but it is the best replacement I have found so far: http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeguide-tv On 7/19/06, probecontrol@... wrote: > > > You're right. I've been appalled at the number of TV > GUIDE 'movie' tie-in covers over the last few years. I > remember the whole 'series' of Tim Burton's PLANET OF THE > APES 'collectible covers', and weren't there a slew of SPIDER- > MAN, LORD OF THE RINGS and X-MEN covers, too? These have to > do with TV... how? :) > > And speaking of the decline in the 'classiness' of the > magazine, the sad part is--I believe that TV GUIDE says that > sales are up, after their switching to their new PEOPLE-like > format. >>sigh<< > > Thanks-- > > Jim Alexander > #4013 From: "Skip Brown" Date: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:00 am Subject: RE: DVD Copies of Probe Pilot or Search Episodes skipster61 I know this original post is nearly a month old, but I would be willing to make DVD or VCD from the best "existing" copies of SEARCH if anybody would lend them to me, or send me them at a really dirt cheap price. Any takers? (Or Givers?) Skip From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of djammons Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 6:34 PM To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Subject: [probe_control] DVD Copies of Probe Pilot or Search Episodes If anyone has DVD copies of the Probe pilot or Search episodes available for a fan please PM me with the info. This is for personal use only. I really loved this show the short time it was on those many years ago. #4014 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:03 pm Subject: Re: Something To Take Us All Back dghprobe3 Hi: Even the cable/satellite TV Guide Channel has "the latest movies" as their primary focus. They treat television itself as though it were incidental and clearly not on their front burner. Why not start calling it "Movie Guide" instead? --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, actingman6@... wrote: > ...I interviewed for a part time job at TV Guide in NYC to do > data-base entry for their online material. They wanted the person to > aggressively research information on new movies...saying they did > not always get the press releases and kits with the needed info. #4015 From: "buttercuphuebner" Date: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:17 am Subject: Re: DVD Copies of Probe Pilot or Search Episodes buttercuphue... I'd like to add my raised hand if anyone's able to get any of the Search/Probe shows. Has anyone heard if there's a possibility that it'll be made available? Heck, the second half of the old Time Tunnel show is now available, and that was only one season, too. Maybe there's hope. I'd love to get ahold of it, though, as I know for sure one of my boys would get a big kick out of the show. Thanks Carrie --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Brown" wrote: > > I know this original post is nearly a month old, but I would be willing to > make DVD or VCD from the best "existing" copies of SEARCH if anybody would > lend them to me, or send me them at a really dirt cheap price. Any takers? > (Or Givers?) > > > > Skip > > > > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of djammons > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 6:34 PM > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [probe_control] DVD Copies of Probe Pilot or Search Episodes > > > > If anyone has DVD copies of the Probe pilot or Search episodes > available for a fan please PM me with the info. > > This is for personal use only. I really loved this show the short time > it was on those many years ago. #4016 From: Tony S Date: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:34 pm Subject: Re: Re: DVD Copies of Probe Pilot or Search Episodes tvspad359 Contact JIm Alexander at probecontrol@... for copies of Probe & Search. buttercuphuebner wrote: I'd like to add my raised hand if anyone's able to get any of the Search/Probe shows. Has anyone heard if there's a possibility that it'll be made available? Heck, the second half of the old Time Tunnel show is now available, and that was only one season, too. Maybe there's hope. I'd love to get ahold of it, though, as I know for sure one of my boys would get a big kick out of the show. Thanks Carrie --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Brown" wrote: > > I know this original post is nearly a month old, but I would be willing to > make DVD or VCD from the best "existing" copies of SEARCH if anybody would > lend them to me, or send me them at a really dirt cheap price. Any takers? > (Or Givers?) > > > > Skip > > > > From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com [mailto:probe_control@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of djammons > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 6:34 PM > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [probe_control] DVD Copies of Probe Pilot or Search Episodes > > > > If anyone has DVD copies of the Probe pilot or Search episodes > available for a fan please PM me with the info. > > This is for personal use only. I really loved this show the short time > it was on those many years ago. #4017 From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:00 am Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control probe_control@yahoogroups.com Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /Leslie Stevens interview/720731_LeslieStevens1.htm Uploaded by : dghprobe3 Description : 7-31-72 Los Angeles Times interview with Leslie Stevens. Search is mentioned, as is his conversion of an old missile base into a recycling center. Confirms his aka as 'L. Clark Stevens,' among other things. You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/Leslie%20Stevens%20interview/7\ 20731_LeslieStevens1.htm To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, dghprobe3