#4300 From: yorktowncmdr@... Date: Thu Mar 1, 2007 5:13 pm Subject: Re: The Chairman Glad to help. End Run, David -----Original Message----- From: probecontrol@... To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [probe_control] The Chairman As you say David, THE CHAIRMAN is a fine thriller, and a great recommendation. Listmember Don Harden and I have discussed this exellent film in the past. Thanks for the suggestion-- Jim Alexander ===================================== > For those of you interested in having a DVD of "The > Chairman" starring Gregory Peck check the following > web addy as follows: http://www.sendmemovies.com. I > speak as a very happy customer, and I am not > plugging the webpage in general. Except for ebay > from time-to-time they are the only vendors I've > found to have this movie on stock. > > "The Chairman" has come within our realm of > discussion as a progenitor to SEARCH. For those > interested in having a DVD of this taut thriller it > is available from sendmemovies.com. > > End Run, > > David #4301 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Thu Mar 1, 2007 7:23 pm Subject: Re: The Chairman --- In probe_control, yorktowncmdr@... wrote: > "The Chairman" has come within our realm of discussion as a progenitor to SEARCH. For those interested in having a DVD of this taut thriller it is available from sendmemovies.com. Hi: AMC Movie Channel runs "The Chairman" from time to time, but I suspect the film is edited. I have an AMC recording of it, but it'd be nice to get an unedited version. Also sad to say that Arthur Hill (who played Shelby, the nearest equivilent to Cam in the movie) passed away 22 Oct 2006. Plotwise, the movie reminds me a lot of "The Bullet" because the agent must retrieve a complex formula from a foreign country, then is faced with having to make a seemingly impossible escape. I've always liked to refer to "The Chairman" as the unofficial first pilot for "Search," the same way I've always referred to "Forbidden Planet" as the unofficial first pilot for "Star Trek." :-) IMDb on "The Chairman": imdb.com/title/tt0064148/ Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (10) #4302 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Thu Mar 1, 2007 7:37 pm Subject: Richard LePore dghprobe3 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email http://imdb.com/name/nm0503348/ The imdb reports that actor Richard LePore died of a heart attack on 27 November 1998 in West Palm Beach, Florida. LePore played Striker in "In Search of Midas" and Campbell in "The Mattson Papers." Also appeared in two "Name of the Game" episodes, "The Other Kind of Spy," and "Jenny Wilde is Drowning." #4303 From: yorktowncmdr@... Date: Thu Mar 1, 2007 6:17 pm Subject: Re: Re: The Chairman Greetings Again, >Hi: AMC Movie Channel runs "The Chairman" from time to time, but I >suspect the film is edited. I have an AMC recording of it, but it'd >be nice to get an unedited version. Also sad to say that Arthur Hill >(who played Shelby, the nearest equivilent to Cam in the movie) passed >away 22 Oct 2006. I will add that both Encore and Fox Movie Channel would run "The Chairman" from time-to-time, thankfully, free of commercials. Arthur Hill's passing got by me. How did that happen. Sorry to hear about it. The DVD has some bonus features too. There is a deleted scene involving more with Hathaway in his hotel suite with Ting-Ling played by Zienia Merton (Sandra in "Space 1999). Let me say we can see much more of Zienia Merton ;) >Plotwise, the movie reminds me a lot of "The Bullet" because the agent >must retrieve a complex formula from a foreign country, then is faced >with having to make a seemingly impossible escape. It's a good comparison for Hathaway's escape from the PRC. It also touches upon biophysics and biochemistry for the story's backdrop. >I've always liked to refer to "The Chairman" as the unofficial first >pilot for "Search," the same way I've always referred to "Forbidden >Planet" as the unofficial first pilot for "Star Trek." :-) That's my sentiment about "The Chairman" too. I even feel that the movie is better than the J. Richard Kennedy book. Once again the addy to find the movie is as follows: http://www.sendmemovies.com. I am a very happy customer. End Run, David #4304 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Thu Mar 1, 2007 11:58 pm Subject: Re: Re: The Chairman Anyone who's interested... DEEP DISCOUNT has a widescreen THE CHAIRMAN for $14.64 with free shipping: http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=5746220 It doesn't mention 'Extras' though. Hmmmmmmm. Thanks-- Jim Alexander ------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: dghprobe3 To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: [probe_control] Re: The Chairman --- In probe_control, yorktowncmdr@... wrote: > "The Chairman" has come within our realm of discussion as a progenitor to SEARCH. For those interested in having a DVD of this taut thriller it is available from sendmemovies.com. Hi: AMC Movie Channel runs "The Chairman" from time to time, but I suspect the film is edited. I have an AMC recording of it, but it'd be nice to get an unedited version. Also sad to say that Arthur Hill (who played Shelby, the nearest equivilent to Cam in the movie) passed away 22 Oct 2006. Plotwise, the movie reminds me a lot of "The Bullet" because the agent must retrieve a complex formula from a foreign country, then is faced with having to make a seemingly impossible escape. I've always liked to refer to "The Chairman" as the unofficial first pilot for "Search," the same way I've always referred to "Forbidden Planet" as the unofficial first pilot for "Star Trek." :-) IMDb on "The Chairman": imdb.com/title/tt0064148/ #4305 From: "Mike" Date: Fri Mar 2, 2007 1:02 pm Subject: Hello All Hello Jim Don and ALL, Thought I would drop in and let all know that after careful consideration I have decided to part with a Scanner and Neck Chain Attachment that I intended on keeping for myself. Sorry but it will Not include a chain do to the fact that the chains I did have were included with the previous Scanners. It will include the engraved back - plate "SEARCH 1972 -2007 35 YRS" I will list it when I can, there are some health problems in the family. I will keep the Probecontrol board informed. Thanks, Have A Great Day ALL. Mike kc8nqa --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Alexander" wrote: > > Anyone who's interested... DEEP DISCOUNT has a widescreen THE CHAIRMAN for $14.64 with free shipping: > > http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=5746220 > > It doesn't mention 'Extras' though. Hmmmmmmm. > > Thanks-- > > Jim Alexander > > ------------------------------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dghprobe3 > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:23 PM > Subject: [probe_control] Re: The Chairman > > > --- In probe_control, yorktowncmdr@ wrote: > > "The Chairman" has come within our realm of discussion as a > progenitor to SEARCH. For those interested in having a DVD of this > taut thriller it is available from sendmemovies.com. > > Hi: AMC Movie Channel runs "The Chairman" from time to time, but I > suspect the film is edited. I have an AMC recording of it, but it'd > be nice to get an unedited version. Also sad to say that Arthur Hill > (who played Shelby, the nearest equivilent to Cam in the movie) passed > away 22 Oct 2006. > > Plotwise, the movie reminds me a lot of "The Bullet" because the agent > must retrieve a complex formula from a foreign country, then is faced > with having to make a seemingly impossible escape. > > I've always liked to refer to "The Chairman" as the unofficial first > pilot for "Search," the same way I've always referred to "Forbidden > Planet" as the unofficial first pilot for "Star Trek." :-) > > IMDb on "The Chairman": > imdb.com/title/tt0064148/ #4306 From: "Jim Alexander" Date: Sun Mar 4, 2007 2:22 am Subject: Re: Hello All Thanks for letting us know, Mike! My best wishes to your family members in ill health. You've been very successful in getting very good prices for your past scanners, and I hope you do as well with THIS one! Thanks for letting the group know. Jim Alexander --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ---------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:02 AM Subject: [probe_control] Hello All Hello Jim Don and ALL, Thought I would drop in and let all know that after careful consideration I have decided to part with a Scanner and Neck Chain Attachment that I intended on keeping for myself. Sorry but it will Not include a chain do to the fact that the chains I did have were included with the previous Scanners. It will include the engraved back - plate "SEARCH 1972 -2007 35 YRS" I will list it when I can, there are some health problems in the family. I will keep the Probecontrol board informed. Thanks, Have A Great Day ALL. Mike kc8nqa --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Alexander" wrote: > > Anyone who's interested... DEEP DISCOUNT has a widescreen THE CHAIRMAN for $14.64 with free shipping: > > http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=5746220 > > It doesn't mention 'Extras' though. Hmmmmmmm. > > Thanks-- > > Jim Alexander > > ------------------------------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dghprobe3 > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:23 PM > Subject: [probe_control] Re: The Chairman > > > --- In probe_control, yorktowncmdr@ wrote: > > "The Chairman" has come within our realm of discussion as a > progenitor to SEARCH. For those interested in having a DVD of this > taut thriller it is available from sendmemovies.com. > > Hi: AMC Movie Channel runs "The Chairman" from time to time, but I > suspect the film is edited. I have an AMC recording of it, but it'd > be nice to get an unedited version. Also sad to say that Arthur Hill > (who played Shelby, the nearest equivilent to Cam in the movie) passed > away 22 Oct 2006. > > Plotwise, the movie reminds me a lot of "The Bullet" because the agent > must retrieve a complex formula from a foreign country, then is faced > with having to make a seemingly impossible escape. > > I've always liked to refer to "The Chairman" as the unofficial first > pilot for "Search," the same way I've always referred to "Forbidden > Planet" as the unofficial first pilot for "Star Trek." :-) > > IMDb on "The Chairman": > imdb.com/title/tt0064148/ #4307 From: "Mike" Date: Sun Mar 4, 2007 3:33 am Subject: Re: Hello All Hello Jim, ALL, Thank you Jim for the best wishes - it is my mom the is not doing well. We are all hopeing for her recovery so we can have here back home soon. It has been hard on us all these last few days. Anyway, I did indeed list that Scanner if anyone is interested? http://cgi.ebay.com/Prop-Hero-Scanner-Replica-Search-Series-1972_W0QQite\ mZ180092378749QQihZ008QQcategoryZ155QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIte\ m Or of course, a Search for: Prop Hero Scanner. I wanted to get it list earlier but just couldnt get around to it til now. I also put a plug in for the Probecontrol Board. [:)] Thanks again Jim, ALL, Mike --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Alexander" wrote: > > Thanks for letting us know, Mike! My best wishes to your family members in ill health. You've been very successful in getting very good prices for your past scanners, and I hope you do as well with THIS one! Thanks for letting the group know. > > Jim Alexander > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:02 AM > Subject: [probe_control] Hello All > > > Hello Jim Don and ALL, > > Thought I would drop in and let all know that after careful > consideration I have decided to part with a Scanner and Neck Chain > Attachment that I intended on keeping for myself. > > Sorry but it will Not include a chain do to the fact that the chains > I did have were included with the previous Scanners. > > It will include the engraved back - plate "SEARCH 1972 -2007 35 YRS" > > I will list it when I can, there are some health problems in the > family. I will keep the Probecontrol board informed. > > Thanks, > > Have A Great Day ALL. > > Mike > kc8nqa > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Alexander" > probecontrol@ wrote: > > > > Anyone who's interested... DEEP DISCOUNT has a widescreen THE > CHAIRMAN for $14.64 with free shipping: > > > > http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=5746220 > > > > It doesn't mention 'Extras' though. Hmmmmmmm. > > > > Thanks-- > > > > Jim Alexander > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: dghprobe3 > > To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:23 PM > > Subject: [probe_control] Re: The Chairman > > > > > > --- In probe_control, yorktowncmdr@ wrote: > > > "The Chairman" has come within our realm of discussion as a > > progenitor to SEARCH. For those interested in having a DVD of > this > > taut thriller it is available from sendmemovies.com. > > > > Hi: AMC Movie Channel runs "The Chairman" from time to time, but > I > > suspect the film is edited. I have an AMC recording of it, but > it'd > > be nice to get an unedited version. Also sad to say that Arthur > Hill > > (who played Shelby, the nearest equivilent to Cam in the movie) > passed > > away 22 Oct 2006. > > > > Plotwise, the movie reminds me a lot of "The Bullet" because the > agent > > > must retrieve a complex formula from a foreign country, then is > faced > > with having to make a seemingly impossible escape. > > > > I've always liked to refer to "The Chairman" as the unofficial > first > > pilot for "Search," the same way I've always referred > to "Forbidden > > Planet" as the unofficial first pilot for "Star Trek." :-) > > > > IMDb on "The Chairman": > > imdb.com/title/tt0064148/ #4308 From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 7:13 am Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /Tony Franciosa/060120_TF_NBCobit1A.wmv Uploaded by : dghprobe3 Description : 1-20-06, WMV video file of NBC Nightly News on death of actor Tony Franciosa. You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/Tony%20Franciosa/060120_TF_NBC\ obit1A.wmv To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, dghprobe3 #4309 From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 7:17 am Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /Tony Franciosa/060122_TF_ABCobit1A.wmv Uploaded by : dghprobe3 Description : 1-22-06, WMV video file from ABC's 'This Week,' In Memoriam segment on Anthony Franciosa, including clip from 'The Drowning Pool.' You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/Tony%20Franciosa/060122_TF_ABC\ obit1A.wmv To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, dghprobe3 #4310 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 7:45 am Subject: Hugh O'Brian in 'Perry Mason' episode During the course of the long-running "Perry Mason" series, there were six episodes in which Raymond Burr did not appear as the title character. In one of those episodes, Hugh O'Brian appeared as a "guest lawyer." In fact, he had a dual role, playing both Bruce Jason, the lawyer who defends Elihu Laban in a murder trial, and one of the murderers who killed two victims. http://www.perrymasontvshowbook.com/pmb_c905_e171.htm The episode was "The Case of the Two-Faced Turn-a-bout." It was episode 18 of the sixth season, and originally aired 2/14/63. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673418/ No "Search" connections except that one of the guest stars was Abraham Sofaer, who appeared in "Operation Iceman" with Tony Franciosa. No emergency on this, but if someone happens to have a tape or disc dub of the episode, I'd be curious to see it. Or notify us if it will appear on one of the cable/satellite channels. Or, if you don't have a tape of it, but you recall having seen it before, send in your recollections. Thanks. #4311 From: Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 6:31 pm Subject: Interesting DVD News A company called Hart Sharp is releasing both BANACEK (one of my personal favorites) as well as the more recent THE CROW on DVD, in association with TV GUIDE. I think this might be a nice opportunity for SEARCH on DVD. Unless anyone thinks it's a bad idea, I will be sending Hart Sharp at least ONE volume of SEARCH (containing the first of half the series), in order to see if there might be similar interest in releasing the show. See http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6996 for details on BANACEK and THE CROW. Jim Alexander #4312 From: actingman6@... Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 6:37 pm Subject: Re: Interesting DVD News I would be curious what other people think as well, but my first thing would be to send a letter, with a reference to the web site. I am not sure how they would react to a dvd coming in the mail. On 3/7/07, probecontrol@... wrote: > > A company called Hart Sharp is releasing both BANACEK (one of > my personal favorites) as well as the more recent THE CROW on > DVD, in association with TV GUIDE. > > I think this might be a nice opportunity for SEARCH on DVD. > > Unless anyone thinks it's a bad idea, I will be sending Hart > Sharp at least ONE volume of SEARCH (containing the first of > half the series), in order to see if there might be similar > interest in releasing the show. > > See http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6996 for > details on BANACEK and THE CROW. > > Jim Alexander > #4313 From: STEPHEN RUSELL Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 6:54 pm Subject: Re: Interesting DVD News U have my Blessing. GO for it, Dont stop. Keep IT UP. GO GO GO GO. ----- Original Message ---- From: "actingman6@..." To: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 10:37:43 AM Subject: Re: [probe_control] Interesting DVD News I would be curious what other people think as well, but my first thing would be to send a letter, with a reference to the web site. I am not sure how they would react to a dvd coming in the mail. On 3/7/07, probecontrol@ sigecom.net wrote: > > A company called Hart Sharp is releasing both BANACEK (one of > my personal favorites) as well as the more recent THE CROW on > DVD, in association with TV GUIDE. > > I think this might be a nice opportunity for SEARCH on DVD. > > Unless anyone thinks it's a bad idea, I will be sending Hart > Sharp at least ONE volume of SEARCH (containing the first of > half the series), in order to see if there might be similar > interest in releasing the show. > > See http://www.tvshowso ndvd.com/ newsitem. cfm?NewsID= 6996 for > details on BANACEK and THE CROW. > > Jim Alexander > #4314 From: Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 7:31 pm Subject: Re: Interesting DVD News > I would be curious what other people think as well, > but my first thing would > be to send a letter, with a reference to the web > site. I am not sure how > they would react to a dvd coming in the mail. ================= Okee-doke, John. I appreciate your thoughts. My idea regarding the DVDs was that it might be a little more difficult to ignore than a polite suggestion to check out the website. ;) I thought sending the DVDs might make it easier for Hart Sharp Video to see first-hand what an excellent series SEARCH was. Right? I'd provide a letter of explanation referencing the website, of course. Perhaps I'd include details on where to find some of the more positive articles written about SEARCH on the web, as well as other appropriate links. I'm willing to go with whatever the group thinks is the best way to approach it. Thanks-- Jim #4315 From: actingman6@... Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 7:43 pm Subject: Re: Interesting DVD News My reaction was based really on how producers have to deal with unsolicited manuscripts. I realize it is a different sort of thing, but I was wondering how a company that deals with copywrited material would deal with unsolicited disks containing copywrited material. I may be leaning too closely on the side of caution....which in this case may be completely groundless...which is why I would also be interested in the collective wisdom of the list. On 3/7/07, probecontrol@... wrote: > > > I would be curious what other people think as well, > > but my first thing would > > be to send a letter, with a reference to the web > > site. I am not sure how > > they would react to a dvd coming in the mail. > ================= > Okee-doke, John. I appreciate your thoughts. > > My idea regarding the DVDs was that it might be a little more > difficult to ignore than a polite suggestion to check out the > website. ;) I thought sending the DVDs might make it easier > for Hart Sharp Video to see first-hand what an excellent > series SEARCH was. Right? > > I'd provide a letter of explanation referencing the website, > of course. Perhaps I'd include details on where to find some > of the more positive articles written about SEARCH on the > web, as well as other appropriate links. > > I'm willing to go with whatever the group thinks is the best > way to approach it. > > Thanks-- > > Jim > Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (10) #4316 From: Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 7:51 pm Subject: Re: Interesting DVD News > I realize it is a different sort of thing, but I was > wondering how a company > that deals with copywrited material would deal with > unsolicited disks > containing copywrited material. ================== You're right. That thought *did* cross my mind. ================== > I may be leaning too closely on the side of > caution....which in this case > may be completely groundless...which is why I would > also be interested in > the collective wisdom of the list. ================== Perhaps 'caution' is best? Maybe I was being too enthusiastic? :) Jim #4317 From: actingman6@... Date: Thu Mar 8, 2007 12:53 am Subject: Re: Hugh O'Brian in 'Perry Mason' episode I've seen the six episodes. Not a lot to say about them really. They all followed the same device of the lawyer somehow coming into a position where they got the use of Della and Paul to do a case. Otherwise they pretty much followed the standard show format. The first half of the second season is due out at some point...so with any luck we (or at least I) will get to season 6...actually I want all nine seasons. So what's a retirement fund anyway? On 3/7/07, dghprobe3 wrote: > > During the course of the long-running "Perry Mason" series, there were > six episodes in which Raymond Burr did not appear as the title > character. In one of those episodes, Hugh O'Brian appeared as > a "guest lawyer." In fact, he had a dual role, playing both Bruce > Jason, the lawyer who defends Elihu Laban in a murder trial, and one > of the murderers who killed two victims. > http://www.perrymasontvshowbook.com/pmb_c905_e171.htm > > The episode was "The Case of the Two-Faced Turn-a-bout." It was > episode 18 of the sixth season, and originally aired 2/14/63. > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673418/ > > No "Search" connections except that one of the guest stars was Abraham > Sofaer, who appeared in "Operation Iceman" with Tony Franciosa. > > No emergency on this, but if someone happens to have a tape or disc > dub of the episode, I'd be curious to see it. Or notify us if it will > appear on one of the cable/satellite channels. Or, if you don't have > a tape of it, but you recall having seen it before, send in your > recollections. Thanks. > > > #4318 From: yorktowncmdr@... Date: Wed Mar 7, 2007 9:23 pm Subject: Re: Interesting DVD News Jim, Great idea. Good luck on this approach. Perhaps with Hugh O'Brien and Burgess Meredith will provide marketing fodder. End Run, David #4319 From: Martin Parrott Date: Thu Mar 8, 2007 3:23 am Subject: Re: [probe] Re: Hugh O'Brian in 'Perry Mason' episode I'll agree with this assessment. The six episodes were ok, but not spectacular. I personally thought the one with Hugh O'Brian was the best of the six. His portrayal put me in mind of Lockwood for some reason. I also agree about wanting all nine seasons. I just purchased season 1 (parts one and two) and the wife and I just finished watching it. There was some great TV in that season. I can't wait for the follow-up releases. I just wish they wouldn't split the seasons up. They will sell. Just release all of them. I will gladly take my retirement fund and spend it on them too! :) actingman6@... wrote: > > I've seen the six episodes. Not a lot to say about them really. They all > followed the same device of the lawyer somehow coming into a position > where > they got the use of Della and Paul to do a case. > > Otherwise they pretty much followed the standard show format. > > The first half of the second season is due out at some point...so with any > luck we (or at least I) will get to season 6...actually I want all nine > seasons. > > So what's a retirement fund anyway? > > On 3/7/07, dghprobe3 > > wrote: > > > > During the course of the long-running "Perry Mason" series, there were > > six episodes in which Raymond Burr did not appear as the title > > character. In one of those episodes, Hugh O'Brian appeared as > > a "guest lawyer." In fact, he had a dual role, playing both Bruce > > Jason, the lawyer who defends Elihu Laban in a murder trial, and one > > of the murderers who killed two victims. > > http://www.perrymasontvshowbook.com/pmb_c905_e171.htm > > > > > The episode was "The Case of the Two-Faced Turn-a-bout." It was > > episode 18 of the sixth season, and originally aired 2/14/63. > > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673418/ > > > > > No "Search" connections except that one of the guest stars was Abraham > > Sofaer, who appeared in "Operation Iceman" with Tony Franciosa. > > > > No emergency on this, but if someone happens to have a tape or disc > > dub of the episode, I'd be curious to see it. Or notify us if it will > > appear on one of the cable/satellite channels. Or, if you don't have > > a tape of it, but you recall having seen it before, send in your > > recollections. Thanks. #4320 From: "Robert J. Sawyer" Date: Thu Mar 8, 2007 4:29 pm Subject: Re: Interesting DVD News Rather than (or, at least, in addition to) people here saying that SEARCH was great, a publisher of any sort wants to see blurbs from major review sources that can be put on the packaging. I'm just making these up, but if someone with a good collection of SEARCH-related material could find comparable real blurbs that would mean a lot more than just us saying we fondly remembered the series or thought it was really good. "Simmering with high-tech dazzle and a succession of sexy guest stars." -- Variety "Out-Bonds James Bond! The best action-adventure show of the season." -- Hollywood Reporter "Hugh O'Brien is appropriately electrifying in this computerized caper series, and Angel Tompkins is destined to be one of the decade's breakout stars." -- The New York Times Again, these are fictitious, and for all I know no such comparable real quotes actually exist, but, if the do, a pitch sheet with them gathered together is precisely the sort of thing needed to convince a DVD publisher that a new market could be created for this series, because there simply isn't a sufficient established market to justify a commercial release of SEARCH. Rob ---------------- ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT John W. Campbell Memorial Award winner for MINDSCAN http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... ---------------- #4321 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Thu Mar 8, 2007 7:49 pm Subject: RE: Re: Interesting DVD News Hello Rob Could always put that a famous Canadian SF writer is a fan. Geoff ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.co.uk or http://www.computercrowsnest.co.uk THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER WE DON’T CHOOSE OUR RANK POSITIONS, OTHERS PUT US THERE:- AOL AOL ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats Yahoo Yahoo ranks SFcrowsnest #4 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ DMOZ DMOZ ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ Google Google ranks SFcrowsnest #2 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ #4322 From: "dghprobe3" Date: Fri Mar 9, 2007 1:31 am Subject: Re: Interesting DVD News Hi: We may have more luck having the "Probe" pilot released on DVD, since Unicorn (apparently an offshoot of Warner) did have a VHS/Beta tape release during the mid-1980's. That would at least be "a foot in the door." The "Search" series may have to be farmed out to a company like Rhino, who did the "Wyatt Earp" DVD set which includes a Hugh O'Brian interview and HOBY segment. Be nice if they could get O'Brian to do a running commentary over "Probe" and/or one of his episodes while he is still with us, or they could arrange to do a featurette-type interview the way they did James Garner for the first set of Rockford DVDs (or for "Wyatt Earp," which I just mentioned). For blurbs, we have some 1972-73 era reviews posted at the website newsclips page: http://www.probecontrol.com/clips.html The actual reviews are gathered here: http://www.probecontrol.com/clips/ads.html Reviews of the "Probe" pilot tended to be more positive than reviews for the series itself. The technology as presented on the show was too fantastic for most people to identify with back then. Today, it would look more like a rather analog 70's version of "24." I notice The Goodlife Network seems to run a lot of Warner Bros. shows, like "Maverick" and "The FBI," so they could be good to contact about airing the reruns. On reviews, we have on the website a "Probe" review by The Atlanta Constitution, and a series review by The New York Times" and also by Time Magazine, all from 1972. The Atlanta Constitution review has wording rather similar to some of the fictional examples Robert suggested. :-) The infamous Cleveland Amory 1973 TV Guide review is also posted. Amory mainly just poked fun at "Search," but note that he did this all the time to most other shows too. http://www.probecontrol.com/clips/imagepages/730123amoryrev.html Variety Review of "The Murrow Disappearance": http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/928 Variety Review of "One of Our Probes" & "Short Circuit": http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/929 "...Both Franciosa and McClure play their parts with an eye for the ladies, which presumably makes the skein more adult in content, but their forays among the femmes is more clichéd than persuasive..." Variety Review of "The 24 Carat Hit." May be some useable blurbs in this as they actually liked the episode and praised the format change to a more serious approach: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/message/930 ---------------------------------------- --- In probe_control, "Robert J. Sawyer" wrote: > Rather than (or, at least, in addition to) people here saying that > SEARCH was great, a publisher of any sort wants to see blurbs from > major review sources that can be put on the packaging... #4323 From: "progrocktv" Date: Fri Mar 9, 2007 5:49 pm Subject: Interesting DVD possibility http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6996 #4324 From: "Richard D. Perez" Date: Fri Mar 9, 2007 6:01 pm Subject: Re: Interesting DVD possibility Very pleased that BANACEK will soon be legitimately released. The copies I have are from Hallmark, which cut them to shreds. It'll be worth the price for complete prints. Richard D. Perez progrocktv wrote: > > http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6996 > > > #4325 From: "Robert J. Sawyer" Date: Fri Mar 9, 2007 6:38 pm Subject: Re: Interesting DVD possibility Yeah, BANACEK was pretty cool. :) I also liked the other (long forgotten) NBC Tuesday Mystery Movie shows: COOL MILLION (which had an episode set in Toronto -- astonishing, then and now, for US TV, which tends to pretend that Canada simply doesn't exist); FARADAY AND COMPANY; and MADIGAN -- all were pretty good. THE SNOOP SISTERS is probably the forgotten gem of the various NBC Mystery Movie wheels, though I also liked HEC RAMSEY a lot, too. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Richard D. Perez" wrote: > > Very pleased that BANACEK will soon be legitimately released. The copies > I have are from Hallmark, which cut them to shreds. It'll be worth the > price for complete prints. > > Richard D. Perez > > progrocktv wrote: > > > > http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6996 > > #4326 From: "Richard D. Perez" Date: Fri Mar 9, 2007 8:32 pm Subject: Re: Re: Interesting DVD possibility I'd LOVE them to release COOL MILLION! It was one of my faves as well. Does anyone remember the Raymond Burr pilot for a new lawyer show wherein he is seen wearing a permanent? He looked ridiculous, and it did not sell. NBC aired it as part of their mystery wheel. Richard D. Perez Robert J. Sawyer wrote: > > Yeah, BANACEK was pretty cool. :) I also liked the other (long > forgotten) NBC Tuesday Mystery Movie shows: COOL MILLION (which had > an episode set in Toronto -- astonishing, then and now, for US TV, > which tends to pretend that Canada simply doesn't exist); FARADAY AND > COMPANY; and MADIGAN -- all were pretty good. THE SNOOP SISTERS is > probably the forgotten gem of the various NBC Mystery Movie wheels, > though I also liked HEC RAMSEY a lot, too. > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com > , "Richard D. Perez" > wrote: > > > > Very pleased that BANACEK will soon be legitimately released. The > copies > > I have are from Hallmark, which cut them to shreds. It'll be worth the > > price for complete prints. > > > > Richard D. Perez > > > > progrocktv wrote: > > > > > > http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6996 > > > > > #4327 From: actingman6@... Date: Fri Mar 9, 2007 9:39 pm Subject: Re: Re: Interesting DVD possibility It was called Mallory. It was a pity they didn't pick it up. It was a lot better than the pilot and show they did go with...Kingston (pilot) and Kingston, Confidential (series) On 3/9/07, Richard D. Perez wrote: > > I'd LOVE them to release COOL MILLION! It was one of my faves as well. > Does anyone remember the Raymond Burr pilot for a new lawyer show > wherein he is seen wearing a permanent? He looked ridiculous, and it did > not sell. NBC aired it as part of their mystery wheel. > > Richard D. Perez #4328 From: "jeffhaas2sorrent" Date: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:16 am Subject: Just found this group Hi, I just found this group and the Probe Control website, and I had no idea anyone else remembered this show! I haven't seen it since it was on the air originally in 1972. So, I understand you guys seem to have located some of the episodes...what's the best way for me to *ahem* search and acquire "that which is missing"? Jeff #4329 From: "jeffhaas2sorrent" Date: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:13 am Subject: Re: Just found this group OK, so I went back through the archives of this group and found the info about Guba. Almost all the episodes come up in a query there, except the pilot movie, and a couple of others including my favorite from when I was a kid, "Short Circuit." I just finished watching "Moonrock" and am both amazed and relieved that the show holds up as well as I remember it. I also remembered how that one ends after all this time...just before they showed us. So question...the episodes on DVD you guys have compiled...are they similar in quality to what's posted on usenet? The fight at the end of Moonrock was so dark you literally couldn't see anything. Or are they better? Jeff --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "jeffhaas2sorrent" wrote: > > Hi, I just found this group and the Probe Control website, and I had > no idea anyone else remembered this show! I haven't seen it since it > was on the air originally in 1972. > > So, I understand you guys seem to have located some of the > episodes...what's the best way for me to *ahem* search and acquire > "that which is missing"? > > Jeff #4330 From: yorktowncmdr@... Date: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:37 am Subject: Re: Just found this group Greetings Jeff, Always good to see a SEARCHer join us. End Run, David #4331 From: Richard_1968@... Date: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:22 pm Subject: Don Weis Q. does director Don Weis who is best known for directing such tv shows such as "Ironside," "CHiPs," "Starsky and Hutch," etc ever directed some episodes of "Search" back in the old NBC days? Rick #4332 From: Date: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:08 pm Subject: Re: Don Weis > Q. does director Don Weis who is best known for > directing such tv shows > such as "Ironside," "CHiPs," "Starsky and Hutch," > etc ever directed some > episodes of "Search" back in the old NBC days? ==================== Sadly, no. It would have been nice to've seen what such a talented director, who worked on so many fine series (many of them genre shows) might have done with SEARCH. Here's more on Weis at IMdB: http://imdb.com/name/nm0918659/ ... and SEARCH at epguides.com: http://epguides.com/Search_1972/ Jim Alexander #4333 From: "jeffhaas2sorrent" Date: Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:04 am Subject: Wikipedia page updated I took a few moments and tweaked the Wikipedia page for SEARCH. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_%28TV_series%29 #4334 From: "jeffhaas2sorrent" Date: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:32 am Subject: Scanner - CAD format? A couple of years ago, "cybiedad" posted that he was working on making a scanner with his CAD system. Anyone have any news on that? Jeff #4335 From: "Mike" Date: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:16 am Subject: Re: Scanner - CAD format? Hello Jeff, Don, Jim and ALL, I remember that he had a really good start on that - he also had some Great CAD drawings of the Scanner and also a Ring and think he even almost had a Scanner contructed. If I remember right? He was using the Gold Powder for the coating, don't think he gave much more detail than that on the rest of the construction. I never seen anything on the outcome. Don't know if he ever completed anything or not? I may still have some of the pics that he was posting of his progress, I would have to locate them though, that might be a problem right now. Don't really have too much time to go through my files. (I have a lotta files.) Have a Great Day ALL, Mike --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "jeffhaas2sorrent" wrote: > > A couple of years ago, "cybiedad" posted that he was working on making > a scanner with his CAD system. Anyone have any news on that? > > Jeff > #4336 From: "Robert J. Sawyer" Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:52 pm Subject: Mike's last scanner Just a note to say I was the lucky fellow who won the auction for Mike Stoll's final PROBE Scanner on eBay, and, my God, is it ever gorgeous! The detail is amazing and the worksmanship is fantastic. THANK YOU, MIKE! ---------------- ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT New novel ROLLBACK on sale in April 2007 http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... ---------------- #4337 From: Jack Bagley Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:09 pm Subject: Re: Mike's last scanner You're a lucky man, Robert!! Congratulations! (Boy, do I wish Mike would make another Scanner.) Jack --- "Robert J. Sawyer" wrote: > Just a note to say I was the lucky fellow who won the auction for Mike > Stoll's final PROBE Scanner on eBay, and, my God, is it ever gorgeous! > The detail is amazing and the worksmanship is fantastic. THANK YOU, > MIKE! > > > ---------------- > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > > New novel ROLLBACK on sale in April 2007 > > http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... > ---------------- > > > > My Blog: http://www.xanga.com/coloneljack What are you waiting for? Buy my writing stuff: http://www.cafepress.com/coloneljack #4338 From: "Mike" Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:10 pm Subject: Re: Mike's last scanner Hello Jim, Don, Rob and All, Thanks Rob. Your most certainly welcome. Although I have been very busy lately, do to the overwhelming response/request about Scanners, I have decided to see if I can possibly do one more? I do not know if I have the resources on hand to complete another one. If it turns out I can do one, it will not include a chain and it will not be engraved, just like the last one without a chain. As I stated: I do not have anymore chain. As for the engraving, it was kind of a special one time deal. I've been terribly busy these last couple of weeks. Dealing with my mom being in the hospital, tax time, and just a whole lotta things going on all at once! Well, I have to go - Very Busy, Long Days and really tiring. I'll keep the Board informed about another Scanner. Glad you are pleased with your Scanner Rob, Thanks Again. Have A Great Day ALL! Mike S. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" wrote: > > Just a note to say I was the lucky fellow who won the auction for Mike > Stoll's final PROBE Scanner on eBay, and, my God, is it ever gorgeous! > The detail is amazing and the worksmanship is fantastic. THANK YOU, > MIKE! > > > ---------------- > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > > New novel ROLLBACK on sale in April 2007 > > http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... > ---------------- > #4339 From: Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:17 pm Subject: Re: Re: Mike's last scanner I concur, Mike-- Your Scanners can't be beat! They're incredibly authentic. As far as the lack of a chain goes--it's no big deal. An appropriate chain can be purchased from any Jewelry Store, as I did. Sending my best wishes regarding your mother's health-- Jim Alexander ======================== > Hello Jim, Don, Rob and All, > > Thanks Rob. Your most certainly welcome. > > Although I have been very busy lately, do to the > overwhelming > response/request about Scanners, I have decided to > see if I can > possibly do one more? I do not know if I have the > resources on hand > to complete another one. > > If it turns out I can do one, it will not include a > chain and it > will not be engraved, just like the last one without > a chain. As I > stated: I do not have anymore chain. As for the > engraving, it > was kind of a special one time deal. > > I've been terribly busy these last couple of weeks. > Dealing with my > mom being in the hospital, tax time, and just a > whole lotta things > going on all at once! > > Well, I have to go - Very Busy, Long Days and really > tiring. I'll > keep the Board informed about another Scanner. > > Glad you are pleased with your Scanner Rob, Thanks > Again. > > Have A Great Day ALL! > > Mike S. #4340 From: "Richard D. Perez" Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:38 pm Subject: Re: Mike's last scanner Is it possible to find out what the market is for the Scanner? How many would want it? If sufficient quantity exists (100 pieces or more) I think I can have them made here in New England. If Probe Control could locate all agents who might need one and get me a figure, it would be appreciated. Richard D. Perez Robert J. Sawyer wrote: > > Just a note to say I was the lucky fellow who won the auction for Mike > Stoll's final PROBE Scanner on eBay, and, my God, is it ever gorgeous! > The detail is amazing and the worksmanship is fantastic. THANK YOU, > MIKE! > > ---------------- > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > > New novel ROLLBACK on sale in April 2007 > > http://www.sfwriter.com * > sawyer@... > ---------------- #4341 From: "Mike" Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:06 pm Subject: Re: Mike's last scanner Hello ALL, I dont know about that - I only started this because I really wanted one and I did a couple more for the people (Collectors)that really wanted one too. It's kinda like all of us Trekers (yes I'm into ST) that made the ST Phasers to have one - it's not a business - I never plan on making it that - it's just for Real Collectors to have for their personal collection. If you start to Mass Produce them - Machined - it cheapens them - any Real collector knows that Real Hero Props are Hand Made - usually One Of A Kind. Not to mention the legal aspect of it - I don't think that it is a good idea - so - I would have to say No on that. Good Day ALL, Mike --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Richard D. Perez" wrote: > > Is it possible to find out what the market is for the Scanner? How many > would want it? If sufficient quantity exists (100 pieces or more) I > think I can have them made here in New England. > > If Probe Control could locate all agents who might need one and get me a > figure, it would be appreciated. > > Richard D. Perez > > Robert J. Sawyer wrote: > > > > Just a note to say I was the lucky fellow who won the auction for Mike > > Stoll's final PROBE Scanner on eBay, and, my God, is it ever gorgeous! > > The detail is amazing and the worksmanship is fantastic. THANK YOU, > > MIKE! > > > > ---------------- > > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > > > > New novel ROLLBACK on sale in April 2007 > > > > http://www.sfwriter.com * > > sawyer@... > > ---------------- #4342 From: Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:10 pm Subject: Re: Mike's last scanner Richard wrote: > Is it possible to find out what the market is for > the Scanner? How many > would want it? If sufficient quantity exists (100 > pieces or more) I > think I can have them made here in New England. > > If Probe Control could locate all agents who might > need one and get me a > figure, it would be appreciated. ==================== That's a very generous offer, Richard. You're correct, though. Determining the market for a Scanner Prop might be difficult. For the last few weeks, I've been working on a project connected to a company called MOEBIUS MODELS that's tried to gauge the reaction to a plastic model kit of a 60's character called CAPTAIN ACTION. There's also a CAPTAIN ACTION Yahoo Group, with a lot of potentially- interested members. The market for such a kit, and a scanner are both very 'niche'. I can tell you that before any interested parties commit, they will want to know: "How Much Will it Cost?" Heck--if the price was right, I might even purchase a second or a third one. :) You'll also have people on eBay who would want one. Mike's scanners have done QUITE well, there. Perhaps people who run across the probecontrol.com website would be interested in purchasing them? So--the Yahoo Group would not be your sole audience for people wanting a Scanner prop. That's my two cents, for what it's worth-- Jim Alexander #4343 From: "Richard D. Perez" Date: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:53 pm Subject: Re: Re: Mike's last scanner The Scanner is merely a piece of costume jewelry. To avoid any problems that might arise regarding violation of trademark or copyright, or even intellectual property, the name, and possibly one element of the design would have to be changed. You cannot compare prices for the one-offs that have been made thus far to a limited run of some quantity. Naturally, I would need to show my guy detailed plans before a commitment is made. However, If I can get a schematic of the Scanner, I can meet with him and ask him what is involved, and the quantity he would have to produce to bring the price down. However, I would suggest a price between $50-100 is probably the ballpark we are working within. Let me know if you want to pursue. I'd certainly buy one! Richard D. Perez Mike wrote: > > Hello ALL, > > I dont know about that - I only started this because I really wanted > one and I did a couple more for the people (Collectors)that really > wanted one too. > > It's kinda like all of us Trekers (yes I'm into ST) that made the ST > Phasers to have one - it's not a business - I never plan on making > it that - it's just for Real Collectors to have for their personal > collection. > > If you start to Mass Produce them - Machined - it cheapens them - > any Real collector knows that Real Hero Props are Hand Made - > usually One Of A Kind. > > Not to mention the legal aspect of it - I don't think that it is a > good idea - so - I would have to say No on that. > > Good Day ALL, > > Mike > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com > , "Richard D. Perez" > wrote: > > > > Is it possible to find out what the market is for the Scanner? How > many > > would want it? If sufficient quantity exists (100 pieces or more) > I > > think I can have them made here in New England. > > > > If Probe Control could locate all agents who might need one and > get me a > > figure, it would be appreciated. > > > > Richard D. Perez > > > > Robert J. Sawyer wrote: > > > > > > Just a note to say I was the lucky fellow who won the auction > for Mike > > > Stoll's final PROBE Scanner on eBay, and, my God, is it ever > gorgeous! > > > The detail is amazing and the worksmanship is fantastic. THANK > YOU, > > > MIKE! > > > > > > ---------------- > > > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > > > > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > > > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > > > > > > New novel ROLLBACK on sale in April 2007 > > > > > > http://www.sfwriter.com > > * > > > sawyer@... > > > ---------------- #4344 From: "Keith" Date: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:04 am Subject: Making a scanner I made one back when the show was on, a small sealed bearing with a phototransistor in the middle. Today, I would probably use a blue LED in the center of an appropriate-sized bearing race, with a pic or drawing of the components. Five bucks and an hour of work. #4345 From: "Mike" Date: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:50 am Subject: Re: Making a scanner Hello Jim, Don, ALL, Thanks much Jim for the best wishes for my mom, I appreciate it. Boy, the Scanner topic has really took off! I made one too when the show was on: Tin foil that was wrapped around a battery to make it round, glued, and painted the board with silver paint: $0.01c. LOL Have A Great Day ALL! Mike S. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > I made one back when the show was on, a small sealed bearing with a > phototransistor in the middle. > > Today, I would probably use a blue LED in the center of an > appropriate-sized bearing race, with a pic or drawing of the > components. Five bucks and an hour of work. > #4346 From: "ronaldheld" Date: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:40 am Subject: Re: Mike's last scanner By now there can't be a large market for a Scanner, but maybe a hundred is the correct estimate that could be sold worldwide. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Richard wrote: > > Is it possible to find out what the market is for > > the Scanner? How many > > would want it? If sufficient quantity exists (100 > > pieces or more) I > > think I can have them made here in New England. > > > > If Probe Control could locate all agents who might > > need one and get me a > > figure, it would be appreciated. > ==================== > That's a very generous offer, Richard. > > You're correct, though. Determining the market for a Scanner > Prop might be difficult. For the last few weeks, I've been > working on a project connected to a company called MOEBIUS > MODELS that's tried to gauge the reaction to a plastic model > kit of a 60's character called CAPTAIN ACTION. There's also > a CAPTAIN ACTION Yahoo Group, with a lot of potentially- > interested members. The market for such a kit, and a scanner > are both very 'niche'. > > I can tell you that before any interested parties commit, > they will want to know: "How Much Will it Cost?" > > Heck--if the price was right, I might even purchase a second > or a third one. :) > > You'll also have people on eBay who would want one. Mike's > scanners have done QUITE well, there. Perhaps people who run > across the probecontrol.com website would be interested in > purchasing them? So--the Yahoo Group would not be your sole > audience for people wanting a Scanner prop. > > That's my two cents, for what it's worth-- > > Jim Alexander > #4347 From: "Robert J. Sawyer" Date: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:13 pm Subject: Re: Making a scanner --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > I made one back when the show was on, a small sealed bearing with a > phototransistor in the middle. > > Today, I would probably use a blue LED in the center of an > appropriate-sized bearing race, with a pic or drawing of the > components. Five bucks and an hour of work. > Perhaps. But the one Mike made is a work of art, and as far as I can tell, absolutely-dead-spot-on accurate to the original hero prop seen in closeups, right down to the tracings on the circuit boards. And the structure is way more three-dimensional than your photo/picture solution suggests. ---------------- ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT John W. Campbell Memorial Award winner for MINDSCAN http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... ---------------- #4348 From: Jack Bagley Date: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:04 pm Subject: Re: Re: Making a scanner I know what you mean. A couple of years back, someone (I think on the list!) offered photo-based Scanner replicas on eBay, and I ordered and paid for five of them. Never received them. Sheesh. That's why I want one of Mike's. Jack --- "Robert J. Sawyer" wrote: > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > I made one back when the show was on, a small sealed bearing with a > > phototransistor in the middle. > > > > Today, I would probably use a blue LED in the center of an > > appropriate-sized bearing race, with a pic or drawing of the > > components. Five bucks and an hour of work. > > > > Perhaps. But the one Mike made is a work of art, and as far as I can > tell, absolutely-dead-spot-on accurate to the original hero prop seen > in closeups, right down to the tracings on the circuit boards. And > the structure is way more three-dimensional than your photo/picture > solution suggests. > > > ---------------- > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > John W. Campbell Memorial Award winner for MINDSCAN > > http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... > ---------------- #4349 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:03 pm Subject: RE: Re: Making a scanner Interesting chat, folks, but I'd love to see Mike tackle making bionic limbs when his Mum is better. :-) Geoff ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.co.uk or http://www.computercrowsnest.co.uk THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER WE DON’T CHOOSE OUR RANK POSITIONS, OTHERS PUT US THERE:- AOL AOL ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats Yahoo Yahoo ranks SFcrowsnest #4 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ DMOZ DMOZ ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ Google Google ranks SFcrowsnest #2 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ #4350 From: "Richard D. Perez" Date: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:08 am Subject: Re: Re: Making a scanner I am assuming that this comment is a thinly disguised attempt to suggest that my offer is not genuine. In order to even investigate the possibilities on my end, what I need is the best possible still photo of the original scanner or a replica. I will then take it to a very close friend who manufactures things like this and quiz him on it. Let me know if anyone can supply such a picture to me via email. Thanks, Richard D. Perez Jack Bagley wrote: > > I know what you mean. A couple of years back, someone (I think on the > list!) > offered photo-based Scanner replicas on eBay, and I ordered and paid > for five > of them. Never received them. Sheesh. That's why I want one of Mike's. > > Jack > > --- "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com > , "Keith" > wrote: > > > > > > I made one back when the show was on, a small sealed bearing with a > > > phototransistor in the middle. > > > > > > Today, I would probably use a blue LED in the center of an > > > appropriate-sized bearing race, with a pic or drawing of the > > > components. Five bucks and an hour of work. > > > > > > > Perhaps. But the one Mike made is a work of art, and as far as I can > > tell, absolutely-dead-spot-on accurate to the original hero prop seen > > in closeups, right down to the tracings on the circuit boards. And > > the structure is way more three-dimensional than your photo/picture > > solution suggests. > > > > > > ---------------- > > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > > John W. Campbell Memorial Award winner for MINDSCAN > > > > http://www.sfwriter.com * > sawyer@... > > ---------------- > > > > > > > > > > My Blog: http://www.xanga.com/coloneljack > > What are you waiting for? > Buy my writing stuff: http://www.cafepress.com/coloneljack > #4351 From: Jack Bagley Date: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:04 am Subject: Re: Re: Making a scanner Richard ... No, no ... I am in no way suggesting that your offer is anything but genuine!!! In fact, I'd be first in line to purchase your Scanner replicas!!! You are most definitely NOT the person I'm referring to. I humbly apologize for any misunderstanding my comment engendered. If I can find a closeup I'll send it, but I leave it to the list to supply that for you better than I could. Again, my sincerest apologies for any misunderstanding. End Run, Jack --- "Richard D. Perez" wrote: > I am assuming that this comment is a thinly disguised attempt to suggest > that my offer is not genuine. > > In order to even investigate the possibilities on my end, what I need is > the best possible still photo of the original scanner or a replica. I > will then take it to a very close friend who manufactures things like > this and quiz him on it. > > Let me know if anyone can supply such a picture to me via email. > > Thanks, > > Richard D. Perez > > Jack Bagley wrote: > > > > I know what you mean. A couple of years back, someone (I think on the > > list!) > > offered photo-based Scanner replicas on eBay, and I ordered and paid > > for five > > of them. Never received them. Sheesh. That's why I want one of Mike's. > > > > Jack > > My Blog: http://www.xanga.com/coloneljack What are you waiting for? Buy my writing stuff: http://www.cafepress.com/coloneljack #4352 From: actingman6@... Date: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:49 am Subject: Re: Re: Making a scanner Will these do? http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/imagepages/Probe009.html http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/imagepages/Probe058.html http://probecontrol.com/Merchadise/Images/Scanner.jpg On 3/21/07, Richard D. Perez wrote: > > > In order to even investigate the possibilities on my end, what I need is > the best possible still photo of the original scanner or a replica. I > will then take it to a very close friend who manufactures things like > this and quiz him on it. > > Let me know if anyone can supply such a picture to me via email. > > Thanks, > > Richard D. Perez #4353 From: "Robert J. Sawyer" Date: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:31 pm Subject: Re: Making a scanner --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, actingman6@... wrote: > > Will these do? > > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/imagepages/Probe009.html > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/imagepages/Probe058.html > http://probecontrol.com/Merchadise/Images/Scanner.jpg > That final one is obviously a fan re-creation. It's not accurate in the details, and shouldn't be relied upon. For instance, the recreation has the two dividing walls (one on each side of the lens assembly) as flat lines. They aren't; they're raised walls. There's a lot of dimensionality to the actual scanner. If one could get a moving film clip of the sequence from which the first image above is taken I think you can see that, since the scanner is rocked left and right a bit in that scene, if I remember correctly. I recall the booklet that came with the SEARCH Viewmaster reels had a decent still of the scanner reproduced on its cover. This shot gives a sense of the 3D nature: http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/imagepages/Probe108.html Cheers, Rob ---------------- ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT New novel ROLLBACK coming April 3! http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... ---------------- #4354 From: actingman6@... Date: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:42 pm Subject: Re: Re: Making a scanner Here is the Viewmaster Booklet. Obviously small for web display. I would have to look at it to see if a higher scan would make any difference, since those things are always printed with the dots pattern (whatever that is called.) http://probecontrol.com/Merchadise/ViewMaster/booklet.jpg On 3/22/07, Robert J. Sawyer wrote: > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com , > actingman6@... wrote: > > > > Will these do? > > > > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/imagepages/Probe009.html > > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/imagepages/Probe058.html > > http://probecontrol.com/Merchadise/Images/Scanner.jpg > > > > That final one is obviously a fan re-creation. It's not accurate in > the details, and shouldn't be relied upon. For instance, the > recreation has the two dividing walls (one on each side of the lens > assembly) as flat lines. They aren't; they're raised walls. There's > a lot of dimensionality to the actual scanner. If one could get a > moving film clip of the sequence from which the first image above is > taken I think you can see that, since the scanner is rocked left and > right a bit in that scene, if I remember correctly. > > I recall the booklet that came with the SEARCH Viewmaster reels had a > decent still of the scanner reproduced on its cover. > > This shot gives a sense of the 3D nature: > > http://probecontrol.com/Episodes/imagepages/Probe108.html > > Cheers, > > Rob > > ---------------- > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > > New novel ROLLBACK coming April 3! > > http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... #4355 From: "Randy" Date: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:01 am Subject: Re: Making a scanner Howdy all, Sorry I haven't posted in a while. Things have been a little bit hectic for us. I have been reading the Daily Digests & wanted to throw my own experience out there for you to chuckle at. I did the same thing way, way back. When the series was on TV, I built (if you want to call it that) a scanner from my rather poor memory. I went to Radio Shack & bought a phototransistor & a couple of diodes. I then took a flat rubber faucet washer that was about the right diameter, painted it gold, and epoxied the hardware down. Afterward, I built a wall around the whole thing from scotch tape & filled it with a clear epoxy mixture. After it hardened, I removed the tape and fastened a steel washer on the back for weight, painted it gold, & attached a chain. In my eyes back then, it was beautiful :o) Seriously though, Mike's workmanship and attention to detail is nothing short of incredible!!! I will be standing in line for a chance at a scanner, whether from Mike (or from anyone else if the quality is any way near what Mike does). The only thing that stopped my bidding on the January scanner was an unfortunate change of events in our household. After 26 years of working for a local hospital, my wife lost her job the week before Christmas. We're now finally getting things straightened back out (she starts a new position on Monday), but talk about bad timing and crummy finances!!! Mike, I hope things are going better with your Mom. Please keep us posted on how you are doing. As a final parting thought, has Mike or anyone else ever considered selling plans on how to build a scanner? I know that it's not something that your average fan might want to tackle, but if you had the plans, you might be able to commission someone to build one for you. It's at least half the battle just finding the components (or knowing how to build the components), and then knowing the proper dimensions, etc. Best regards, Randy #4356 From: "Geoff Willmetts" Date: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:14 pm Subject: RE: Re: scanner en mass Gentlemen I've been reading through the discussion about hero version and mass production of the TV scanner with interest. The overall reaction does tend to suggest there is room for both. Those who want Mike's can be patient as he makes them. Those who want a mass-produced one at a lower price should also have a similar opportunity if Richard can pull off a deal, especially if it also contains the accessories which is a good selling point from chain to tie-clip to cuff-links. I mean, how many of you who own Mike's would be afraid to wear it in public in case it fell off or got lost?? All it needs is the Short Circuit episode scenario and it gets zapped as well. :-) For a mass-produced one, I think there would have to be a substantial difference in price to the hero one-offs but the manufacturer would probably end up selling more to the same people which would off-set the price. Richard, has your manufacturer done anything else we can take a look up to see how good he is?? I mean, he's going to have to get the scanner right or it won't be bought and that includes getting the dimensionality right. As to the copyright issue. I doubt if Warners are going to worry about a couple hundred scanners being available and if they are we can also remind them that this is for a show that they haven't supported and only available to a small number of fans anyway. If they want the definition of 'small' then again, it can be used as leverage. If there is one up for above Mike's version then it would be one that works. The camera technology is there and a hidden wire to a battery could just about make it possible these days. There's a far better chance of that happening than being able to go out and buying an active phaser. :-) Gotta go Geoff ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.co.uk or http://www.computercrowsnest.co.uk THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER WE DON’T CHOOSE OUR RANK POSITIONS, OTHERS PUT US THERE:- AOL AOL ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats Yahoo Yahoo ranks SFcrowsnest #4 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ DMOZ DMOZ ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ Google Google ranks SFcrowsnest #2 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ #4357 From: "Robert J. Sawyer" Date: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:20 pm Subject: Re: scanner en mass Let's be realistic. The figure that's been floated here is making 100 scanner units. The last auction for one of Mike's scanners had precisely two bidders, so there'd have to be FIFTY TIMES as many people interested in a mass-produced scanner as there were bidders for the last one of Mike's. This newsgroup -- which, I daresay, represents a very significant hunk of the surviving SEARCH fandom in the world -- has 348 members, only a handful of which are active participants. Almost a third of the members would have to buy a scanner to sell out a run of a hundred units. Remember, most fans of any series want THE EPISODES, not a prop replica; DVDs of STAR TREK outsell even cheap toy phasers by at least one and probably two orders of magnitude. I very much doubt there's a market for even a hundred scanner units. Rob ---------------- ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT New novel ROLLBACK coming on April 3! http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... ---------------- #4358 From: Jack Bagley Date: Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:48 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass I'd buy several of them if the price was right. You're right about fans wanting episodes of shows, not necessarily props, but to use Star Trek as a comparison to Search is akin to the old cliche of apples and oranges. A scanner could be realistically worn as a piece of costume jewelry -- it would provoke a comment or question, perhaps, and might even glean some recognition from a closet Search fan. But a phaser ... well, wear one in public and you look just plain silly. Especially if you're old enough to remember first-run Search. Again, I'd buy several, one for a ring, one for a clip, one for a tie tack, and one for a chain. Why interchange when you can have the whole set? End Run, Jack --- "Robert J. Sawyer" wrote: > Let's be realistic. The figure that's been floated here is making 100 > scanner units. The last auction for one of Mike's scanners had > precisely two bidders, so there'd have to be FIFTY TIMES as many > people interested in a mass-produced scanner as there were bidders for > the last one of Mike's. > > This newsgroup -- which, I daresay, represents a very significant hunk > of the surviving SEARCH fandom in the world -- has 348 members, only a > handful of which are active participants. Almost a third of the > members would have to buy a scanner to sell out a run of a hundred > units. Remember, most fans of any series want THE EPISODES, not a > prop replica; DVDs of STAR TREK outsell even cheap toy phasers by at > least one and probably two orders of magnitude. > > I very much doubt there's a market for even a hundred scanner units. > > Rob > > > ---------------- > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > > New novel ROLLBACK coming on April 3! > > http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... > ---------------- > > > > > > My Blog: http://www.xanga.com/coloneljack What are you waiting for? Buy my writing stuff: http://www.cafepress.com/coloneljack #4359 From: "Robert J. Sawyer" Date: Sat Mar 24, 2007 1:38 am Subject: Re: scanner en mass Well, STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION communicator pins are sold commercially, and, again, they sell in far, far smaller numbers than do DVDs of the episodes. Or does the fun you're suggesting only work if people DON'T recognize what you're wearing? :) As for "if the price was right, let's get to the nitty gritty. By several, you must mean at least three, right? How low a price would you need to see to make you want to buy three of them? Cheers, Rob --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, Jack Bagley wrote: > > I'd buy several of them if the price was right. > > You're right about fans wanting episodes of shows, not necessarily props, but > to use Star Trek as a comparison to Search is akin to the old cliche of apples > and oranges. A scanner could be realistically worn as a piece of costume > jewelry -- it would provoke a comment or question, perhaps, and might even > glean some recognition from a closet Search fan. But a phaser ... well, wear > one in public and you look just plain silly. > > Especially if you're old enough to remember first-run Search. > > Again, I'd buy several, one for a ring, one for a clip, one for a tie tack, and > one for a chain. Why interchange when you can have the whole set? > > End Run, > > Jack > > --- "Robert J. Sawyer" wrote: > > > Let's be realistic. The figure that's been floated here is making 100 > > scanner units. The last auction for one of Mike's scanners had > > precisely two bidders, so there'd have to be FIFTY TIMES as many > > people interested in a mass-produced scanner as there were bidders for > > the last one of Mike's. > > > > This newsgroup -- which, I daresay, represents a very significant hunk > > of the surviving SEARCH fandom in the world -- has 348 members, only a > > handful of which are active participants. Almost a third of the > > members would have to buy a scanner to sell out a run of a hundred > > units. Remember, most fans of any series want THE EPISODES, not a > > prop replica; DVDs of STAR TREK outsell even cheap toy phasers by at > > least one and probably two orders of magnitude. > > > > I very much doubt there's a market for even a hundred scanner units. > > > > Rob > > > > > > ---------------- > > ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer > > > > Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS > > Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT > > > > New novel ROLLBACK coming on April 3! > > > > http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... Date: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:11 pm Subject: en masse Hello Rob and Jack You do remember that discussion a couple years back for not too many to get into a bidding war on ebay when it came to scanners?? Not all of us are on ebay anyway. I think that needs to be taken into account with your sums. I tend to agree with Jack that it would make more sense to know a rough price and then see how many are interested and then in how many scanners each and then a second price evaluation to match the numbers though. The reason why STrek DVDs outsell phasers is because the majority of fans don't want them and outside of Cons, it would be a little difficult carrying them around without looking silly. The TV scanner just looks like a pretty piece of jewellery apart from the intelligent services needing reassurances that its not for real - although I'm quite happy to do the surgery on anyone who wants a little battery implanted behind their ear :-) A lot of this prop buying is more akin to wanting something that is recognisable as if it belonged to the show. The Trek community then to have some, shall we say, extreme elements who go around in costume all the time although some are just happy to wear a communicator badge. The number of Trek fans beyond that end of the fan curve is far more anyway and many wouldn't go near a media shop if they knew what one was. If anything out group here contains only the smidden of fans who've found us. I'm giving another plug in April's SFCrowsnest editorial under the line of things I'd like to see out on DVD. I'm only including two. The other is Roger Corman's 'War Of The Satellites' only cos it scared the heebeegeebees out of me when I saw it at the cinema morning club when young. By the by, those of you interested in getting a copy of 'Fathom' which co-starred Tony Franciosa, American Amazon have some at the moment. Gotta go Geoff ********* GF Willmetts **************************** Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.co.uk or http://www.computercrowsnest.co.uk THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER WE DON’T CHOOSE OUR RANK POSITIONS, OTHERS PUT US THERE:- AOL AOL ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats Yahoo Yahoo ranks SFcrowsnest #4 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ DMOZ DMOZ ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ Google Google ranks SFcrowsnest #2 most popular SFF site on the Internet http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ #4361 From: swhite228@... Date: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:50 pm Subject: Re: en masse What your all missing in this Trek vs Search debate is the "prop collectors" and the marketing of props. As Geoff points out not everyone who buys a phaser is a con going costume wearing fan! As a mater of fact a lot of phasers,and proton packs, and airsoft guns, and you name it, are bought by collectors who want a piece of their favorite show or movie. They are put on a shelf to display and thats it. I know because I have 7 different phasers, as well as a prop collection covering both tv and movies with the most off the wall being a screen used radio from Nikos the Impailer. The problem here is the board will give unusable want numbers because it is a Search board. Taking that into account the number of scanners wanted will be higher than normal but the number sold will still be between 10 and 20% of the total spoken for. A lot of prop replicators planning a run of an item will offer it on several different prop boards to find out what the demand will be (again figure about 15% of the total wants will be sales) before producing the prop. A ballpark price is usually included with the interest thread, along with a sign up list, and the minimum needed to make the run happen( this number is often higher than the real number). The other way to do this is an "active project" way, where several folks offer parts that can be combined to make the scanner prop. Someone makes the bodies,someone does the art work, someone does the lens and braces, some one does the electronic parts, rings, tie clip, chain........you get the idea. No one person is out the big bucks a major run would cost, and over all the cost of the prop would be less. I point this out because a run of 100 scanners isn't going to be cheap, and one can only use so many refrigerator magnets. Scott -------------- Original message from "Geoff Willmetts" : -------------- > Hello Rob and Jack > > You do remember that discussion a couple years back for not too many to > get > into a bidding war on ebay when it came to scanners?? > Not all of us are on ebay anyway. I think that needs to be taken into > account with your sums. > > I tend to agree with Jack that it would make more sense to know a rough > price and then see how many are interested and then in how many scanners > each and then a second price evaluation to match the numbers though. > The reason why STrek DVDs outsell phasers is because the majority of > fans > don't want them and outside of Cons, it would be a little difficult carrying > them around without looking silly. The TV scanner just looks like a pretty > piece of jewellery apart from the intelligent services needing reassurances > that its not for real - although I'm quite happy to do the surgery on anyone > who wants a little battery implanted behind their ear :-) > > A lot of this prop buying is more akin to wanting something that is > recognisable as if it belonged to the show. The Trek community then to have > some, shall we say, extreme elements who go around in costume all the time > although some are just happy to wear a communicator badge. The number of > Trek fans beyond that end of the fan curve is far more anyway and many > wouldn't go near a media shop if they knew what one was. > > If anything out group here contains only the smidden of fans who've > found > us. I'm giving another plug in April's SFCrowsnest editorial under the line > of things I'd like to see out on DVD. I'm only including two. The other is > Roger Corman's 'War Of The Satellites' only cos it scared the heebeegeebees > out of me when I saw it at the cinema morning club when young. > By the by, those of you interested in getting a copy of 'Fathom' which > co-starred Tony Franciosa, American Amazon have some at the moment. > > Gotta go > Geoff > > > > > ********* GF Willmetts **************************** > Commissioning Editor: http://www.sfcrowsnest.co.uk or > http://www.computercrowsnest.co.uk > THE SCIENCE FICTION AND FANTASY MAGAZINE > THE E-BOOK PUBLISHER THAT TRIES HARDER > > WE DON’T CHOOSE OUR RANK POSITIONS, OTHERS PUT US THERE:- > > AOL AOL ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet > http://search.aol.com/aolcom/browse?id=906&source=subcats Yahoo Yahoo ranks > SFcrowsnest #4 most popular SFF site on the Internet > http://dir.yahoo.com/Entertainment/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ DMOZ > DMOZ ranks SFcrowsnest #1 most popular SFF site on the Internet > http://dmoz.org/Arts/Literature/Genres/Science_Fiction/ Google Google ranks > SFcrowsnest #2 most popular SFF site on the Internet > http://directory.google.com/Top/Arts/Genres/Science_Fiction_and_Fantasy/ #4362 From: "Keith" Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:54 am Subject: Re: scanner en mass A lot of people looked. I was one of those who felt the opening price was significantly higher than I was willing to pay. This has nothing to do with whether this was a fair price, considering the work and quality -- it just means that my desire to have a scanner was not that great. A quality repro at a lower price would get more interest. --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" wrote: > > Let's be realistic. The figure that's been floated here is making 100 > scanner units. The last auction for one of Mike's scanners had > precisely two bidders, so there'd have to be FIFTY TIMES as many > people interested in a mass-produced scanner as there were bidders for > the last one of Mike's. #4363 From: Martin Parrott Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:18 am Subject: Re: [probe] Re: scanner en mass I have to agree. I looked, but could not justify the cost. I would have loved to have been able to get a scanner of the obvious quality being discussed, but at this point I will have to settle for the 3D rendered model I created for my personal enjoyment. Keith wrote: > > > A lot of people looked. I was one of those who felt the opening price > was significantly higher than I was willing to pay. > > This has nothing to do with whether this was a fair price, considering > the work and quality -- it just means that my desire to have a scanner > was not that great. > > A quality repro at a lower price would get more interest. > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com > , "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > Let's be realistic. The figure that's been floated here is making 100 > > scanner units. The last auction for one of Mike's scanners had > > precisely two bidders, so there'd have to be FIFTY TIMES as many > > people interested in a mass-produced scanner as there were bidders for > > the last one of Mike's. > > #4364 From: "ronaldheld" Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:34 am Subject: [probe] Re: scanner en mass Perhaps I missed a post or more. What did people think was a price they would pay for his scanners? --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, Martin Parrott wrote: > > I have to agree. I looked, but could not justify the cost. I would have > loved to have been able to get a scanner of the obvious quality being > discussed, but at this point I will have to settle for the 3D rendered > model I created for my personal enjoyment. > > Keith wrote: > > > > > > A lot of people looked. I was one of those who felt the opening price > > was significantly higher than I was willing to pay. > > > > This has nothing to do with whether this was a fair price, considering > > the work and quality -- it just means that my desire to have a scanner > > was not that great. > > > > A quality repro at a lower price would get more interest. > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > , "Robert J. Sawyer" > > wrote: > > > > > > Let's be realistic. The figure that's been floated here is making 100 > > > scanner units. The last auction for one of Mike's scanners had > > > precisely two bidders, so there'd have to be FIFTY TIMES as many > > > people interested in a mass-produced scanner as there were bidders for > > > the last one of Mike's. #4365 From: "Richard D. Perez" Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:50 pm Subject: Re: [probe] Re: scanner en mass The scanner could very easily be within the $50-100 range. My friend has a company right here in town that manufactures custom pins and jewelry, so I'm sure doing the item is not going to be a problem. My company, Alphamedia, would direct sell to consumers once a price and quantity is obtained. I will provide the investment capital. Now, would someone please send me the BEST possible photo of the scanner???? Richard D. Perez Martin Parrott wrote: > > I have to agree. I looked, but could not justify the cost. I would have > loved to have been able to get a scanner of the obvious quality being > discussed, but at this point I will have to settle for the 3D rendered > model I created for my personal enjoyment. > > Keith wrote: > > > > > > A lot of people looked. I was one of those who felt the opening price > > was significantly higher than I was willing to pay. > > > > This has nothing to do with whether this was a fair price, considering > > the work and quality -- it just means that my desire to have a scanner > > was not that great. > > > > A quality repro at a lower price would get more interest. > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com > > > , "Robert J. Sawyer" > > wrote: > > > > > > Let's be realistic. The figure that's been floated here is making 100 > > > scanner units. The last auction for one of Mike's scanners had > > > precisely two bidders, so there'd have to be FIFTY TIMES as many > > > people interested in a mass-produced scanner as there were bidders for > > > the last one of Mike's. #4366 From: probe_control@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:10 pm Subject: New file uploaded to probe_control Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the probe_control group. File : /scanner_hero.jpg Uploaded by : parrottm76262 Description : 3D software recreation of Search Scanner You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/probe_control/files/scanner_hero.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, parrottm76262 #4367 From: "Robert J. Sawyer" Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:29 am Subject: Re: scanner en mass --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > A lot of people looked. To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and some of my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html All best wishes. Rob ---------------- ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT New novel ROLLBACK on sale April 3 http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... ---------------- #4376 From: "Robert J. Sawyer" Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:44 pm Subject: Re: scanner en mass Hi, Jeff. Your question was posted several times; perhaps you can delete the excess ones. I honestly have no idea how many people read my blog, since it's syndicated through so many services. My own Yahoo! Groups newsgroup has 1,142 members, and it seems likely that more people read my blog than the newsgroup. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/robertjsawyer/ All best wishes. Rob ---------------- ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT New novel ROLLBACK coming in SIX DAYS! http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@... ---------------- #4391 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King #4392 From: actingman6@... Date: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:42 am Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Other groups are having the same repeat problems. On 3/28/07, Nic Olinsky wrote: > > Can anybody turn this guy off? > > On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > > > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > > > Jeff > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com , > "Robert J. Sawyer" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com , > "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > > some of > > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > > > All best wishes. > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Nicholas M Olinsky > Sunnyside School District > Manager of Information Systems > Phone: 509.836.8412 > FAX: 509.836.8423 > > "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. > There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King #4395 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King #4397 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King #4398 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (34) #4399 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King #4402 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King #4403 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (34) #4404 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King #4406 From: actingman6@... Date: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:42 am Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Other groups are having the same repeat problems. On 3/28/07, Nic Olinsky wrote: > > Can anybody turn this guy off? > > On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > > > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > > > Jeff > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com , > "Robert J. Sawyer" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com , > "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > > some of > > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > > > All best wishes. > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Nicholas M Olinsky > Sunnyside School District > Manager of Information Systems > Phone: 509.836.8412 > FAX: 509.836.8423 > > "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. > There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King > Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (34) #4407 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (34) #4408 From: actingman6@... Date: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:42 am Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Other groups are having the same repeat problems. On 3/28/07, Nic Olinsky wrote: > > Can anybody turn this guy off? > > On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > > > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > > > Jeff > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com , > "Robert J. Sawyer" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com , > "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > > some of > > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > > > All best wishes. > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Nicholas M Olinsky > Sunnyside School District > Manager of Information Systems > Phone: 509.836.8412 > FAX: 509.836.8423 > > "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. > There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King > Reply | Forward | Messages in this Topic (34) #4409 From: Nic Olinsky Date: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:52 pm Subject: Re: Re: scanner en mass Can anybody turn this guy off? On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:56 PM, jeffhaas2sorrent wrote: > Robert - How many people does your blog get per day/week? > > Jeff > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Robert J. Sawyer" > wrote: > > > > --- In probe_control@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote: > > > > > > > > > A lot of people looked. > > > > To be precise, 58 people have looked to date, according to the hit > > counter on the auction page. But, if I may be so bold, I bet a bunch > > of them were because I linked to the auction from my blog, and > some of > > my readers were curious as to what I was so excited about: > > > > http://sfwriter.com/2007/03/probe-control-to-probe-one.html > > > > All best wishes. > > > > Rob > > > > > > > -- Nicholas M Olinsky Sunnyside School District Manager of Information Systems Phone: 509.836.8412 FAX: 509.836.8423 "Any word you have to hunt for in a thesaurus is the wrong word. There are no exceptions to this rule." - Stephen King